To think Trump might be the right Leader for right now?

[Theemeperorsnewclothes]

I am so confused why I am starting to think that Trump might be a good thing right now. I do think he is making the right moves to end conflict right now, which of course can only be a good thing for the poor people suffering in war zones but I’m so conflicted. I was trying to search for why I felt this way and what past war and future war situations might mean with Trump at the helm. Below are notes to myself. I know you educated, worldly wise mums will absolutely be able to educate on what I am missing. I am genuinely interested to hear your perspectives.

Why do wars start?
War is caused by many different things, including competition over land, religious conflicts, and nationalism. Imperialism, racism, and slavery have also been causes of armed conflict.
Why do wars end?
Realistically, wars usually end when one side wins or the parties experience significant war weariness. Thus, World War I was only a temporary end-of-war because there was no clear-cut victory.
We need to put an end to why wars start, not why wars end. Too much devastation and destruction and loss of life when a war starts. In this case, like the war in Gaza there has been no clear “winner” there has been constant and significant “war weariness” but some other country/political party/religious group steps in. However, there is still never a “clear-cut victory”
Tackle the issues that START wars and not STOP wars in the first place. A true leader will make their priority tackling all the issues that start wars. Trump needs to prove himself in this approach.
That said, we are in a very volatile world and ENDING wars is the first priority. Trump appears to have that in his sights. I say this as far left viewer of the world, as opposed to the right take on the world, as it is today.
I don’t care if you are left or right or somewhere in between. War must end now and we must have a leader who can figure out how to stop it happening again. The end. The Leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place, is the one who can save humanity. Right now, we need the wars to end, and like it or not, that is the position we find ourselves in, and that’s why, I currently think it might be Trump.

Anyone have any idea who is the leader who can STOP wars happening in the first place? I’m thinking they would need to be free from corruption and probably not an egotistical, power hungry male.

End of my rant 😁.

Just to be clear, are you saying that October 7th was fighting back and they had every right to do it?

@HaveYouTrumped
For some reason I can't quote right now. This is in response to your comment on NATO and defence spending. 4 years post pandemic is not that long. Plus, where do you think the extra budget is going to come from? We already have a massive budget hole but we can see what Rachel Reeves's budget is doing to the economy. You want us to double our contribution to NATO? Because that's what Trump wants.
I think he says that stuff knowing full well the UK and EU countries can't do it. So yes, he is utterly undermining NATO. He is also 'negotiating' without Ukraine there. Let that sink in. Ukraine today is a sovereign nation (whatever the historical and cultural ties with Russia, it is a fully fledged sovereign state). That does not bode well for any country in Trump's orbit.

Interesting how there have been 14 posts through the night, all telling us how wrong we are, how Trump is amazing and how Ukraine need to suck it up. I find the times of the posts interesting, almost as though they are on a schedule?

Isn't coincidence a funny thing?

Back to October 7th. Ffs! History didn’t begin on that day for Palestinians. Just to be clear, are you saying that brown, oppressed people are just supposed to accept oppression, brutality, starvation, land stealing, being imprisoned in an open prison, imprisonment without trial, day in a day out for 75 years because it’s being perpetrated by white colonialists??

Trump and Musk are a danger to the world, not the answer to anything.

The rest of Eastern Europe will be looking on in horror. They never want to be forced to become part of USSR V.2 and know Trump would sell them out in a second if Putin wants their land.

Trump probably doesn’t care about the long term consequences but ultimately he’s endangered the long term future of America and to a lesser extent Israel.

Many countries are capitulating now because they are in weaker positions. Europe will also eventually give him what he wants for the same reasons.

However, this administration cannot last forever and now the world knows America cannot be trusted, and is a great. they will be quietly making plans to ensure they have long term security and zero reliance on America for anything. Eventually the dollar will no longer be the reserve currency, and new trade links will be formed. The most educated Americans will emigrate as their economy shrinks and the negative cycle will put them on a par with their central and South American neighbours.

He’s celebrating victory today hit it’s a Pyrrhic victory for the USA.

It's really odd that you claim to be studying politics yet seem to be unable to access any actual reliable sources of news... Surely your tutors are concerned about how woefully uninformed you seem to be?

He’s cosying up to Putin because IMO he admires him - a ruthless psychopathic dictator who has opponents locked up/murdered and does what the hell he likes, regardless of how many ‘little people’ are killed or maimed in the process.

i always presume if you make a statement of x then in a debate its upto that group or person to backup the research , its not upto the opposing side to do the research to prove what you say you believe is true

John Bolton (former Trump aide and WH national security adviser) on CNN

“Putin has scored a whole series of victories today. It’s hard to encompass them all,”

“They’re drinking vodka straight out of the bottle in the Kremlin tonight. It was a great day for Moscow.”

So yes, Trump is the right leader if you are Putin

Your response below is not someone engaging in rational debate. It's the response of a 5 year old. We are talking about readily available, factually reported information.

Debating style aside, I'm still flummoxed that a student of politics could be so uninformed. I very much fear you are not in line for a first.

If nothing is done to stop this runaway wrecking train, I think the most apt comparison awaiting the US in a couple of years is that of Yeltsin's Russia in the immediate aftermath of the USSR's collapse. Those were the lawless years (that Putin swore Russians would never have to go through ever again, which I assume is mostly why he is still popular over there).

Good comparison, I'd forgotten (how!?) Yeltsin.

In debating groups and as google confirms
"Which side has the burden of proof in debate?

When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim, especially when it challenges a perceived status quo."

So with that reguards i stand correct, people are quick to make points about elon etc but they dont prove the sources and just expect people to trust them, and considering the nature of what they were trying to accuse elon of doing then most certainly id expect them to have sources to backup their point.

It's not a philosophical or theoretical debate. It's someone stating factual, readily available information, of which, as a student of politics, you should already be aware.

It's one thing to expect someone to defend a position. However, if you can't be bothered to arm yourself with information, readily accessible to all, you are not someone who is capable of engaging in informed debate.

and by said rules of a debate, if they say elon is misusing the data he has been given then thats a big accusation and i would expect them to prove the point they made, which follows the rules of how a debate is ment to be carried out

yes its always better to do my own research to counter misinformation,

This is a strawman but there is never any context within which I will ever agree with ethnic cleansing.

Not one.

Apparently he does not have clearance.