To believe that eating meat should be illegal?

[BySpoonyBlueScroller]

The environmental damage and animal cruelty outweighs the cultural or personal benefits. AIBU to think it’s time to outlaw meat production?

Sorry it was meant for OP. I just think the idea of making meat eating illegal to be ridiculous.

Onions and carrots need light soil. I have clay so I don't attempt to grow them.

Courgettes take up a lot of space in my experience.

My tomatoes are in a green house so they don't get attacked by anything.

I'm not sure what went wrong with your beans, I know they don't like wind.

OK, at least you tried.🙂

How do you intend to fertilise all of this arable land? Intensive farming of crops is wrecking our soil, it will be barren in a few years. We need to reduce our reliance on pesticides and chemical fertilisers. We need to return to the traditional rotation which allowed manure to be worked back into the soil. You need livestock for that.

That sounds like UPF to me.

If you're recommending that the law should be changed for environmental/animal cruelty reasons, then it should probably force us all to go vegan. Being vegetarian is a rather pointless halfway house that enables people to pretend to be virtuous without really giving up too much. (I say this as someone who has been vegetarian for over 35 years, and will never go vegan, even though I think I probably should, because I like cheese and eggs too much!)

Stop worrying about what other people eat and focus on reducing your own carbon footprint etc.

It's not.

Well it ain’t whole food is it?

Ever heard of mulch? You don't need animals for that.

It's on LBC radio this hour about how (Arla?) cows are being given 'anti-flatulence' drugs to reduce methane. People are boycotting the products from this dairy, as the drugs are being transferred to humans in milk / beef.

As I said earlier, emissions from the beef / dairy industry exceed the impact of the global airline industry in terms of global warming. And that's quite aside from the wholly unethical practices involved in intensive farming. There's only so long people can say "I don't care" and try to deflect by framing vegans as blue-haired, human-hating radicals blah blah blah, Everyone is going to have to reckon with this soon enough.

No, people are as usual making a huge fuss about things they don't understand, spreading lies and hysteria

You obviously don't know what mulch is, if you think it answers that question in any way

'Hysteria' @HipMax? Interesting choice of descriptor.

Do you think people should be banned from voicing concerns about industrial farming practices?

Where I come from mulch is rotted down vegetable matter ie green fertiliser.

OP - dream on. 🤷‍♀️🙄. No one much cares about your views on meat eating, so it’ll never be illegal 👍👍👍

Was it 'hysteria' a couple of years ago when the River Wye turned a weird bright green and thick with algae and the whole river ecosystem changed irreversibly? It was caused by waste from the intensive chicken farms in Shropshire and Powys, even though the industries tried to deny it as long as they could, as did the supermarkets who relied on these suppliers. They denied snd deflected for years before being forced to take action.

You sound pretty hysterical ranting about rivers and chickens when your point was about cows and farts.

No. Who said anything about banning anything? Not me.
It's less an interesting choice and more and accurate one

Do you have any actual relevant information to share @HipMax ?

Exactly.

Yet the OP has not responded to my or several posters comments on the environmental impact and impracticality of this in the UK.

Eats, shoots, and leaves.

Do you want to explain why,while discussing hysterical language, you instantly pretended I wanted to ban discussion, thereby amply proving my point?

Go hunt it yourself then like nature intended.

pritty good way, then little resistance as its not being banned

The OP has been banned for being a Mrs Goady McGoad-Arse, so we'll never get our answers... 😢

"Nature" never intended individuals to "hunt it themselves".

We are omnivores and we eat meat.

How we organise society to provide that meat is not and never has been dictated by nature.

what’s an animal lover, practically? How can anyone actively love all animals?