Angela from Housing

[billysboy]

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

I'm not even a labour voter but what has big Ange from housing done that is worse than anything other labour Mps have done? Why does HE need to let HER go?
Apart from be successful despite being a young mum I'm sure that upsets the many on here who think life is over if you reproduce before 25? How dare she!!

Because HE is the PM, her boss! She has been incompetent, increasing employer NI is incompatible with HIS growth agenda, dumb move.

He's just as responsible though

That's likely a factor in the support, he's backed those policies

Did you mean Rachel from accounts who is the Chancellor rather than Angela???

Was that not Rachel reeves? Still don't see what Angela has done that's worse than other labour Mps. Kier starmers pretty useless himself.
Most of the criticism of Angela I see online is about her having a child at 16, a lot of these people are just mad a young mum did well for herself and you cannot change my mind 🤷🏻‍♀️ many people think if you're a teen mum you deserve to suffer forever

I was responding to the point about his leadership skills, so I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about what I've said about his leadership skills. And it was you who cited a historical example of his leadership by harking back to something someone said about his early days as leader of the Labour Party. I merely responded to that.

Given that a new government with a landslide was always likely to make the divisive and unpopular decisions early on in their term, the only opinion poll that really matters is the one that takes place in 4.5 years time.

Apologies @TheNuthatch it was another poster who cited the historical example, but it doesn't change the point that I was responding to that.

His old job isn't a guide to being PM

It's politics after all that you need to be good at

Let's be honest - he demonstrated no leadership skills of note during his time as DPP. He's always been a weak, spineless buffoon.

I agree, he was widely criticised at the time as being a weak/wet DPP.

He did not lead labour to victory

Home secretary Theresa May even took Sir Keir out to dinner to thank him for his service, the book says, while the then attorney general Dominic Grieve described the soon-to-be Labour MP as “one of the most successful directors of recent years” at his leaving party.

Although he rebuked Sir Keir at the start of his tenure of DPP for being too political, Mr Grieve – who had the Tory whip removed by Boris Johnson after voting against his Brexit deal – is quoted describing him as “highly effective and someone who always behaved with great integrity”.

Sir Keir had made clear he would not seek a second term as DPP but Mr Grieve said: “I would definitely have reappointed him, of course I would. And I don’t think anyone else in government would have had any basis for taking a contrary view.

“For them to turn around now and attempt to muckrake his time as DPP is really infantile behaviour, completely unjustified and just a load of rubbish. It won’t work and I fear attacking public servants in this way will backfire badly on the Conservative Party.”^

From the Guardian of all places.
"Figures out this week are expected to show a rise in inflation and unemployment'.

www.theguardian.com/business/2025/feb/17/uk-firms-mull-biggest-layoffs-in-a-decade-as-business-confidence-slumps

Inflation, job losses, tax rises and welfare cuts. Cracking combination coming down the pipeline. What a mess.

Yes, along with sky high borrowing. At least the tories had the sense to bin the mini budget when it went wrong.

And now Starmer is talking about putting boots on the ground in the Ukraine.

I'm just hanging on for a good news story here.

That is a good new story.

Defending European freedom from Russian (and now US) aggression is exactly what we should be doing.

And don't start on all that "would you want your kid to go to war". No, I wouldn't - which is why we need to be deterring Russia now before it gets a chance to rebuild its army.

Of course you won't be shipping off your own child for your good news story. You'd like somebody else's to do it for you

Surrendering to Putin doesn't mean peace.

It just means having a war after he's rebuilt his army.

By this argument we should have surrendered to Hitler - although in the case of Musk and Trump that's what they think we should have done.

You do realise that it is just to support a peace deal and so in no way diminishing the resources of Russia or akin to fighting Hitler?

It only manages to achieve pissing off Russia a bit while it re-groups and Starmer can play at being a strong man parading around in army fatigues?

Europe have had ample opportunity to increase funding, they have been found wanting and now Ukraine will pay the price.
Ukraine have been drip fed supplies. Not enough to win, just enough to survive.
Our troops numbers are embarrassing, yet still Starmer won't commit a date for increased defense spending. I'd love to know where he's going to find these peace keeping troops, or how he's going to pay for it.

Until recently the plan was to wither the army further from 108k to 72k, so 🤷🏼‍♀️ no idea

@HPFA how many troops do you want to see go?

I agree with pp it's not a good news story. And keenness for sending other people's dc

Oh sorry, i must be living in a parallel universe. In your universe, are the Tories still in power?

I hope the media starts reporting how many troops we have lost during so called peacekeeping missions.
It's sickening that this has been called a good news story.