Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

And ….. the NHS doesn’t ask you to confirm who you are at hospital or GP?

If you are not “in the NHS system” in UK, you get billed now and surprise, they want some ID. So, you need to revise your rhetoric

it’s not ‘freedom’ they’re after.

I’d love to call him an out and out lying- whatever- but Some one will come along and go - no, those 3 words he used in the entire speech actually happened so … fake news! Liberals! Woke! Agenda blah blah blah

There's a YouTube called Classic Ghost Stories. Actually there's a couple. Old detective Stories too. Trick is to avoid the AI ones these days. Check the comments first - some listener usually flags them up

I think America is trying to impress Putin. The Russians were very happy with Vance's speech criticising the Europeans for a lack of democracy.
The Pot calling the kettle black methinks.

Bite Sized Audio also @seriouslynonono

Everything I have heard says USA thinks China is a bigger threat than Russia and they can't afford to plough money into Ukraine and Israel fighting the wars for them.
They need to concentrate on their own military and reserves esp re China

And put money into their own infrastructure and population.
The Ukrain war is in deadlock and the eu seem to have done absolutely nothing in ploughing funds into their own protection. It beggars belief really!
It's a huge massive block why hasn't it made it's own security a priority?
Whether Trump does or doesn't give them support shouldn't really be an issue it should be a bonus.
Putin thought he could take Ukraine in days, 3 years later the war is still going.
Why on earth would he want to tackle anywhere else when he can't take Ukraine.

No solution here is ideal but at least Ukraine would be safe and whoever does the peace keeping border means putin wouldn't ever attack again.
People in Ukraine could live again at the moment they don't know if the entirety of their country will be taken by putin. What then?

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Americas current government threaten the media if they push back, oppose, or disagree with them. They will sue them and or shut them down. ( Associated Press, Jim Acosta, ) The richest man in the world runs a social media organisation that is biased to one viewpoint, and while spouting about free speech deletes accounts that have a different viewpoint. Then there is another billionaire run social media who was told to toe the line and remove fact checking or they would see the wrath of the government. They witter on about the first amendment (free speech) and yet this is anything but free. All this has happened in the last number of months. To me this is like beginning to look like living in North Korea or Nazi Germany.

America is not free.

Money IS power.....musk is a megalomaniac...money has bought him the American presidency, can't get much more power than that ! Trump is effectively musks puppet, all he had to do was show trump the money.Trump would roll onto his back and wiggle his legs in the air for money so that wasn't difficult. Musk wants to go to Mars doesn't want to spend his own money when he can get billions from US contracts to do it.

Russia is on its knees financially and militarily and yet trump is conceding to all putins demands. But then trump is a hard negotiator 😱.....it would be hysterically funny if it wasn't so serious.

Okay. I'll bite.

Enough with the orange insults

Enough with the exaggerations, like claiming he's going to build a golf course that covers half the world or some such ridiculousness.

Enough with the catastrophising.

The majority on this thread, and others like it, don't seem to realise their own extreme rhetoric has pushed an awful lot of Americans to vote for him.

Screaming, crying, shouting, throwing insults and making stuff up are not going to convince many to vote for those aligned with your viewpoint.

Sorry but we live in Canada and will continue to protect ourselves against the felon acting as president south of our border. We’re now referring to the US as a Southern Canadian province! We’ll never become a US state! (And we’ll be booing the American national anthem at the 4Nations!)

Extreme rhetoric = taking back Greenland, buying Canada, building hotels in gaza, etc etc etc .....and mumsnet is the problem?

Telling a load of probably predominately brits, to not have a differing opinion , and not to express it ....wow.

From my own perspective making stuff up about trump isn't necessary it's all out there.....unless fox edits out the bad bits. ;-)

It's the Gulf of Mexico.
Canada is not a US state.
Gaza is not a real estate trade.
Greenland is not for sale.

The world is not American.

@Turkeyneck101 well zekensky said oil prices mean putin can well afford to keep things going and he can draw on soldiers from other nations.

I don't think it's giving into putin at akk6, putin wanted Kiev and another Russian puppet government there.
Won't happen.
And once it's stopped completely the moment they agree to concede both of them, Ukraine can be properly armed.
It can get fighter jets in and propery arm the border.

Russia is winning this war and Ukraine can't win it

Yes please! It's been dull, dark, wet and freezing cold for weeks now. The outback would suit me fine. I'm sure he would build a collection of Trump towers for us to live in.

https://x.com/fordnation/status/1890865392077197450?s=46&t=7uZ5GLraCHnmbl4o9C79gA

Happy Flag Day Canada - let’s continue to celebrate 🙌

Sorry mate, the rest of the world isn’t going to sit by while your orange-faced baboon with his baby faced bearded deputy and their botoxed to fuck megalomaniac mate plot to invade other countries, disestablish the world, and bring some Handmaiden Tale shit to us all just so the richest county in the world can make more money.
We aren’t a revenue stream for the US - so go ahead and take back aid from people who really need it, fire all your sane government employees or at least the ones who won’t fall in line with the new world order, free the criminals who tried to overthrow your elected government… just leave the rest of us out of it.
Oh, and tell tangerine man that we don’t take your over sized, fuel guzzling, shitty cars because they’re too big, too expensive, fuel guzzling and shit. It’s not a mystery.

However, now Europe has been scared into upping defence spending, UK and Europe will be in the market for some big shiny bangy new weapons. Expensively made and traded by US of A. And as we demand lots more of it, Bigly will impose his new tariffs on the imports. Think like a Donald.

I may be understanding this wrong, but aren't tariffs on goods coming into America, not going out of it?

US will pay tariffs on imports. Bigly intends this to decrease imports so US buys American. Other countries will either not buy from US or, if they need to buy US product, will pay the increased prices of US goods caused by the imposition of the import tariffs. Either way, its going to cost.

Brainwashed, blind or deliberately obtuse. Trying to work out which.

"The majority on this thread, and others like it, don't seem to realise their own extreme rhetoric has pushed an awful lot of Americans to vote for him."

The cause of Trump's victory was the propaganda propagated by the right wing - the dodgy conspiracy theories on X, the right wing media (Fox news et al), racist rhetoric, 4 Chan, Q Anon, Facebook algorithms pushing pure lies... and all the rest. It's called brainwashing.

Don't try to blame it on people pushing back against it and calling it out for what it is.

I agree with Sparklingems let USA sort themselves out - if you are a lefty it's shit if you are right wing yahoo. If some of the free speech border vetting and trans nonsense stuff wafts over hear i will be grateful