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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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eacapade1982 · 05/02/2025 22:57

The thing that astounds me is the sheer number of intelligent people pretending the Emperor has new clothes to appease a batshit megalomaniac. Trudeau ‘agreed’ a 1.3 billion deal to avoid tariffs, and splashed it all over the media to make it look like Trump had achieved something when it was the same deal he negotiated with the Biden administration in December. Trudeau knew it, the Trump administration knew it, the media knew it, but somehow everyone is pretending Trump actually did something. Same thing with the Californian water farce. Everyone apart from maybe MAGA supporters is fully aware that there is no canal from North California to LA, and all Trump did by diverting water was flood some desert farmland and waste the summer water reserves. People know this, but a large number of intelligent people are just pretending Trump’s insane statements are right. It’s so embarrassing.

KnittyNell · 05/02/2025 22:57

Radyward · 05/02/2025 19:03

So since Trump was inaugurated he has at break neck speed
Sent troops to the border.
Stopped catch and release
Sent a clear message to illegal aliens and illegal criminals
Declared war on the drug gangs.
Negotiated an agreement with Mexico to at least attempt to stop the drugs crossing into usa.
Called out Trudeau for his lax attitude to illegal drugs and got a result in that canada will reinforce the border.
Set into law the Laken Reilly act.
Has started cost cutting in all govt depts. And calling outridiculous wastage of tax payers money . Sorry when have we heard those words here.
Wants people back to the office to increase productivity. ( I'm all for that )
The politicians are always at the trough . What have the dems really being doing with USAID
Seems a bit of money laundering going on
This is totally refreshing as a voter.
As for Gaza,
I mean why should trillions of dollars be thrown at gaza for it to obliterated again and again.i think we need to wait and see what happens. If the usa were in Gaza that's it hopefully peace. In actual fact I am enjoying a non career politician working the govt as a business and having respect for the American tax payers.he is America first and has never started any war in his last 4 years. He certainly does not want US deaths so let's wait and see.
If the same thing is done to " help" gaza again sure it will be back to square one in no time
What was instigated before does NOT work. Its a total-hi% hole .needs to be leveled is right Hamas are evil personified plus they
depend on the world defending gaza and you know what if clearing it stops senseless violence so be it

Anyone follow Riley Gaines??
She is delighted he has brought into law no men in women's sports. To me common sense is prevailing and DEI which was completely ridiculous is being replaced ny people getting jobs on merit. He is calling a halt on trans ideology

See crime rates down in NYC. Funny how goos America with real leadership and not a puppet is coming across.
He is refreshing . I must admit Gaza floored me but I hate Hamas so hey let's pull the rug from under their terrorist arses and see what happens.

I totally agree.
You are definitely speaking for me.

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 22:58

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 22:52

Just started a thread saying the same before I saw this. I'd suggest as israel apparently aligns with the west regarding values, Trump takes all Israelis out and into America and leave Palestine to the Palestinians.

So it's not ethnic cleansing you're opposed to, you just think some ethnicities are more important than others?

samarrange · 05/02/2025 22:59

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 22:52

Just started a thread saying the same before I saw this. I'd suggest as israel apparently aligns with the west regarding values, Trump takes all Israelis out and into America and leave Palestine to the Palestinians.

In the 1970s, Alan Coren wrote a weekly column in Punch parodying the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, often commenting on world affairs. One of his suggestions was to move all of the Palestinians to Belfast and all the NI Catholics to the West Bank.

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:00

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 22:58

So it's not ethnic cleansing you're opposed to, you just think some ethnicities are more important than others?

Ethnic cleansing, you mean kinda like what Palestine and Palestinians have been suffering for decades.

I'd say my suggestion is far better considered than what the orange nutter has come away with.

pananamana · 05/02/2025 23:01

he's a dangerous fascist who will screw the US and the rest of the world over. Be concerned and mobilise to stand against him and others like him!

pananamana · 05/02/2025 23:02

too many fascist supporters on this thread!

juggleit · 05/02/2025 23:02

Adelstrop · 05/02/2025 17:37

I’m waiting for him to suggest that the population of England should be relocated to the Australian outback so that he can turn It into a giant golf course.

That's not such a terrible idea though - better weather and zero traffic problems in the great outback of OZ!

Trump is completely batshit and the most unpolitical politician to have graced the Earth.

I've decided to stop living a sensible life and saving for the future and to blow it all in Ibiza celebrating the third summer of love ❤️

I suspect their will be plenty of middle age folk joining me from the states, which now also includes Canada 😂

100PercentFaithful · 05/02/2025 23:03

When did America ever have the respect of the world?
I grew up in the 80s and no one I knew respected Americans back then - they were seen as loud, rude and arrogant.
There was an American air base near my village and there was an American housing estate where their families lived, they were very unpopular.

President Fart has made for entertaining news articles but hasn’t made much difference to how the world views America.

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:03

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:00

Ethnic cleansing, you mean kinda like what Palestine and Palestinians have been suffering for decades.

I'd say my suggestion is far better considered than what the orange nutter has come away with.

The only actual ethnic cleansing in the land being discussed is of Jews from the Palestinian territories. There are still to this day Palestinians living in Israel.

Your suggestion is incredibly gross.

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:04

samarrange · 05/02/2025 22:59

In the 1970s, Alan Coren wrote a weekly column in Punch parodying the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, often commenting on world affairs. One of his suggestions was to move all of the Palestinians to Belfast and all the NI Catholics to the West Bank.

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For a more recent suggestion, I believe Sheldon Cooper world famous physicist suggested he create the promised land in the Mojave desert. Promised to make it nice and put on a spread. 😅

pananamana · 05/02/2025 23:04

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:03

The only actual ethnic cleansing in the land being discussed is of Jews from the Palestinian territories. There are still to this day Palestinians living in Israel.

Your suggestion is incredibly gross.

nice gaslighting

Devianinc · 05/02/2025 23:04

It seems bizarre but it would do a lot for peace in the Mideast. Whether it ever happens or not is really the question. People there would thrive

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:09

pananamana · 05/02/2025 23:04

nice gaslighting

I don't understand - are you saying there aren't Palestinians in Israel or are you saying that there hasn't been an ethnic cleansing of Jewish people from the Palestinian territories?

niffynickers · 05/02/2025 23:14

Have you noticed 17% here voted 'You're being unreasonable' so I guess that means 17% think he's OK. Actully I know people here think he's great.

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:16

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:09

I don't understand - are you saying there aren't Palestinians in Israel or are you saying that there hasn't been an ethnic cleansing of Jewish people from the Palestinian territories?

Would you care to enlighten us on land and population increases of Israel and Israelis and compare it to land and population decreases in Palestine and Palestinians, over the past say 75 years?

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:18

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:16

Would you care to enlighten us on land and population increases of Israel and Israelis and compare it to land and population decreases in Palestine and Palestinians, over the past say 75 years?

I didn't realise history started 75 years ago

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:19

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:18

I didn't realise history started 75 years ago

Well it did for the state of Israel. 😉

nam3c4ang3 · 05/02/2025 23:19

Disagree on the Gaza thing he’s proposing, or the fact he’s trying to steal Greenland - I agree however on him stopping trans athletes competing against women in the olympics.

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:22

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:19

Well it did for the state of Israel. 😉

Modern state of Israel, sure. Not Israel though. Not Jewish presence in the land.

I really don't understand the posters on here who are opposed to ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians but are happy for ethnic cleansing of others. Personally, I'm against all ethnic cleansing. Why aren't you?

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:23

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:22

Modern state of Israel, sure. Not Israel though. Not Jewish presence in the land.

I really don't understand the posters on here who are opposed to ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians but are happy for ethnic cleansing of others. Personally, I'm against all ethnic cleansing. Why aren't you?

Was there an Israel at all prior to 1948?

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:24

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:23

Was there an Israel at all prior to 1948?

Yes.

GouacheEnthusiast · 05/02/2025 23:24

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Comedycook · 05/02/2025 23:24

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:16

Would you care to enlighten us on land and population increases of Israel and Israelis and compare it to land and population decreases in Palestine and Palestinians, over the past say 75 years?

You sound like the type of person who gets all their knowledge of history from memes on social media.

ARealitycheck · 05/02/2025 23:26

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 23:24

Yes.

You mean Palestine.