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Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:06

I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

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mommatoone · 04/02/2025 21:54

poorbuthappy1 · 04/02/2025 21:53

I cannot believe race has been brought into this 🙄
Pathetic

I can, it happens on a lot of threads on here, It's getting tiresome now. 😴

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:55

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:49

They weren't allowed to care for babies who were very unwell though, whatever week they were born

And babies in the brink of going home and being “full term” died under Letby’s watch

TidydeskTidymind · 04/02/2025 21:55

I had to make a statement and give evidence in court and I was gobsmacked by the amount of evidence that would not be considered by the judge, was not even put before the judge or jury, and how cases were built with lots of stuff not even being discussed in court. It all felt very haphazard and messy.

It was a pretty straight forward case and yet it was made very confusing and the person was found not guilty.

Since then I've not had much faith in our court and trial system.

If Lucy Letby truly is innocent I feel incredibly sorry for her and for the parents who have been put through this trauma.
They should all be heavily compensated if it transpires that there has been withheld evidence, lying, manipulation of the truth or covering up by the hospital trust.

I'm alarmed to hear she wasn't even in the hospital during some of the events she is convicted of. How did that not get discussed in court???

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 21:55

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:06

I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

Well, they've certainly taken their time in their attempt to refute the evidence against her. If they were that concerned, why didn't they speak up before?

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 21:55

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:54

Not in neonatal wards they dont

Why wouldn't they?

Premature babies are at risk of a lot of illnesses.

Their lungs aren't fully developed.

TomatoSandwiches · 04/02/2025 21:56

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 21:47

So you don't know her then. You've just decided who and what she is, because she is a bit rubbish with men and appears to be a bit immature?' (According to you, a person who doesn't actually know her?)

Wow! If people like you were on the jury, no wonder she was convicted. With the mindset YOU have, someone with a similar mindset probably thought 'meh she's got her dark roots showing, I don't like her. let's find her guilty!'

The point is that I don't think she's guilty despite the fact I feel she comes across in this way to me fgs.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 21:56

poorbuthappy1 · 04/02/2025 21:53

I cannot believe race has been brought into this 🙄
Pathetic

There's always one isn't there? 🙄

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:56

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 21:44

Why was she looking at parents of the dead babies facebook pages?

I thought that was very odd

She searched hundreds of people, these were just a few. I search everyone and anyone, including parents of children I've previously looked after, it's nosiness more than anything, nothing sinister at all about that.

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TraderJoese · 04/02/2025 21:56

@soupyspoon

As an autistic person I've been called weird and do weird stuff that people find me odd. I've also had instances where they blame things on me knowing I have a tendency to just believe what's been said therefore also believe that what's being said is true even if it's not.

Newborndaze · 04/02/2025 21:56

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:51

Re her behaviour - she was borderline obsessed with working with sickest babies in the room where they were all kept and moaned endlessly if she had to work in nursery 1 which was essentially “babies ready to go home” room.

Why?

Its possible for 2 things to be true - that she’s a murderer and that standards at the hospital were poor

This proves nothing.
Some nurses prefer to work in special care, some prefer intensive care. What you’re saying is akin to saying we should be suspicious of nurses that choose to work in adult ICU over outpatients.

I don’t know whether she’s innocent or guilty but I work in neonates and statements like yours are very frustrating. Having an interest in or a preference of intensive care isn’t an unusual behaviour for a nurse to display.

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:56

Honestly, the intelligence in this forum is alarming. Healthy babies don't suddenly require the need for resuscitation. Wake up.

The irony

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:57

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 21:55

Why wouldn't they?

Premature babies are at risk of a lot of illnesses.

Their lungs aren't fully developed.

Because innovation and care is optimal, and the chances of survival in neonatal babies is very high in developed countries

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 21:57

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 04/02/2025 21:50

Agree, there’s always one that has to unnecessarily bring race, colour, or body size into the mix

Yep! ^ Seen the same poster do this on other threads too. Take no notice.

ForgivenessHoliday · 04/02/2025 21:57

RoundandSad · 04/02/2025 21:15

"It’s a hard disagree from me. There were A LOT of red flags in her behaviour which indicate she is guilty IMO"

behaviour isn't evidence

What do you mean by that? Of course behavior is evidence.

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 21:57

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 04/02/2025 21:54

Watch Sky news. The expert whose study they relied on was never actually consulted. Dr Lee, he is in Canada. He only came across the case accidentally and states they used his research wrongly and misinterpreted it
He also states that this hospital would have been closed down if it were in Canada
The defense didn't have experts because professionals won't testify against each other, they stick together

Expert professionals give different evidence to each other all the time, you have psychiatrists on the defence and prosecution all the time for example in murder trials

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 21:57

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:56

Honestly, the intelligence in this forum is alarming. Healthy babies don't suddenly require the need for resuscitation. Wake up.

The irony

I know right! 😆

Hobbesmanc · 04/02/2025 21:58

TidydeskTidymind · 04/02/2025 21:55

I had to make a statement and give evidence in court and I was gobsmacked by the amount of evidence that would not be considered by the judge, was not even put before the judge or jury, and how cases were built with lots of stuff not even being discussed in court. It all felt very haphazard and messy.

It was a pretty straight forward case and yet it was made very confusing and the person was found not guilty.

Since then I've not had much faith in our court and trial system.

If Lucy Letby truly is innocent I feel incredibly sorry for her and for the parents who have been put through this trauma.
They should all be heavily compensated if it transpires that there has been withheld evidence, lying, manipulation of the truth or covering up by the hospital trust.

I'm alarmed to hear she wasn't even in the hospital during some of the events she is convicted of. How did that not get discussed in court???

They stated that she must have returned to the ward whilst off shift but didn't produce any evidence. Some of the links to her are incredibly flimsy. It's not surprising that there's been so much controversy over the conviction

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:58

Newborndaze · 04/02/2025 21:56

This proves nothing.
Some nurses prefer to work in special care, some prefer intensive care. What you’re saying is akin to saying we should be suspicious of nurses that choose to work in adult ICU over outpatients.

I don’t know whether she’s innocent or guilty but I work in neonates and statements like yours are very frustrating. Having an interest in or a preference of intensive care isn’t an unusual behaviour for a nurse to display.

The level of obsession and fury when she didn’t get her way, on the contract of so many babies dying, is absolutely a red flag

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 04/02/2025 21:59

mugonmyforehead25 · 04/02/2025 21:19

LOL!!!

No to this comment! NO NO NO

Agree, JandamiHash speaks total BS

PaterPower · 04/02/2025 21:59

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:57

Because innovation and care is optimal, and the chances of survival in neonatal babies is very high in developed countries

Unfortunately, that wasn’t true of this hospital unit. And wasn’t true when Letby was not on shift (and yet babies died that might well have survived under a different team).

MidnightMusing5 · 04/02/2025 21:59

LL didn’t look so shocked when arrested, which was telling imo. 🤷‍♀️

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 21:59

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:56

She searched hundreds of people, these were just a few. I search everyone and anyone, including parents of children I've previously looked after, it's nosiness more than anything, nothing sinister at all about that.

I disagree. I think it's weird.

I work as a teaching assistant in a school right now.

There is no way I would look up any of the children's parents on Facebook.

Oftenaddled · 04/02/2025 21:59

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:54

Re her behaviour - she was borderline obsessed with working with sickest babies in the room where they were all kept and moaned endlessly if she had to work in nursery 1 which was essentially “babies ready to go home” room.

Why?

Er there are other reasons besides murder...

She was one of only two nurses on the unit with specialist qualification to work with babies in intensive care.

There are texts between her and a friend where they realize a parent has shared concerns with nursery nurses instead of registered nurses and they haven't been taken seriously. The unit was understaffed.

She seems to have wanted to work in her specialism and to keep an eye on the most vulnerable babies. You would have to already believe she was a murderer to see that as suspicious. In most people, it would be praiseworthy.

SalmonAndHorseradish · 04/02/2025 21:59

I'm not a medical expert, wasn't on the jury and although I followed the trial I obviously didn't see the huge amount of info that hasn't been made public, so I won't pretend to know the truth, but the fact that so many experts are coming forward to say the evidence is flawed is concerning.

People are, understandably, horrified and angry that those babies died, and they want someone to blame and direct their anger at. That's natural, but we need to be driven by evidence not emotion. IF there is credible doubt or new evidence there needs to be a retrial and IF the conviction is found to be unsafe then it needs to be overturned. If she didn't do it, it's one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in history.

As for the parents, if it were me I'd want the truth, however painful.

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 04/02/2025 21:59

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 21:57

Expert professionals give different evidence to each other all the time, you have psychiatrists on the defence and prosecution all the time for example in murder trials

They misinterpreted his research. I think he will be more of an expert on his own research than the prosecution experts

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