Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

Yes her therapist instructed her to write down her feelings of inadequacy and incompetence while she was under the stress of being accused of harming babies. I didn’t mean that a therapist would have dictated the exact words. 🤪

I find it almost amusing that people who don’t even have the basics of this case down tbh k they can unequivocally declare her innocence

I don’t know if she’s guilty or not, but the evidence isn’t concrete enough for the conviction she’s received.

My friend worked on the Chester maternity ward for many years (pre-letby), and contradicts most of the statements that are released in the press. She’s adamant is a money and PR driven cover up 😬

She is guilty

The people on the panel are not highly qualified or experienced clinically.

Er, yeah they are.

Fact she had no defense experts to defend her …. Was very telling. There was not one person that could explain her innocence under oath. Not one person at either trial. Not one expert under oath ….

Many now, when it’s too late, saying loads of stuff and their evidence is not being tested / cross examined. Bunch of attention seeking experts now when there’s no pressure and it’s too late anyway.
She and her defense decided to have no experts to defend her …. Because it would not help her, only harm her defense.

But there was already lots of examination of this in the court case, in particular i remember one expert being asked if it was possible that the very high levels of insulin found in some of the babies could have happened naturally and they said no. The defence could have challenged it then if they wanted to.

It seems a lot of NHS staff claim it’s a cover up. I feel there’s a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on - better to be paranoid about the workplace than accept one of their own could do this

Whats the reputation to protect? The unit or ward didnt have to bring in the police, no one from the outside was accusing the ward or people on the ward of killing the babies?

Was the ward or hospital under some sort of warning or special measures due to the deaths?

You have lost that bet. Sorry. I'm not that crass, nor am I interested in perving at the grief of others.

I find it interesting too.

It’s almost like anyone with a remotely related job title can go “Me! Over here! I have something to say!”

Pretty sure she admitted to falsifying notes…

Because some people might say “ Oh if that were me I’d be screaming hysterically , I couldn’t even stand or walk , I’d be so devastated . The fact that Olive could walk PROVES she’s a heartless evil bitch who probably killed her child. “

Whereas in fact you don’t know WHAT you would do/ think / feel until you are in the situation. For most people it’s outside their experience or comprehension .

I don’t know what I’d write in my diary if I’d been accused of killing babies. I don’t know what I’d look up on the internet . I don’t know how I’d act if I was arrested for murder . Im pretty sure whatever I did would look like “ guilt “ to some of you.

She agreed under oath that the insulin was administered. She denied doing it.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that if you want.

That's not interest. It's relishing the grief of bereaved people.
Totally shameless and very weird.
If fb didn't exist, i doubt people would be standing outside the house of a bereaved person oggling at their grief.

Is that 'fury'

My god, today I would have been described as apoplectic in comparison then!!!

No there wasn’t, the insulin question was a case of the prosecution misleading the jury because the blood test used to justify that the insulin levels were too high to be naturally occurring literally cannot be used to make that determination. The Defense did challenge it, but when you have doctors lying under oath that the test does show what the laboratory says it cannot show…

No but you think she is innocent because some of her behaviours are similar to stuff you have done.

Medical negligence… yes and a little help to finish them off . All From the same one nurse always around .
That's no coincidence.

I don’t think that’s been proved beyond reasonable doubt.

Correcting notes.

Can I also point out her defence team have been denied an appeal. There is a reason for that. They don’t have the evidence.

If she was a man the responses here would be SO different. Everyone would be saying miscarriages of justice are vanishingly rare, false accusations just don't happen look at all the red flags etc. I hardly think you'd be ok with a man facebook stalking your family after you lost your baby in their care. Yet people tie themselves in knots to deny the bleeping obvious.

That isn't true. Please don't post misinformation. These are some of the panel members and their qualifications:

Dr Shoo Lee
Professor Emeritus at University of Toronto
Honorary Physician at Mount Sinai Hospital
President of the Neonatal Foundation
Founder of Canadian Neonatal Network
Previously Head of Neonatology at University of Toronto and a hospital for sick children

Professor Eric Eichenwald
Professor of Paediatrics at Paramount school of medicine at University of Pennsylvania
Chief of the Division of Neonatology at the Childrens’ Hospital of Philadelphia
Holder of the Thomas Friedrich McNair Scott endowed chair

Professor Helmut Humler
Senior medical director of the European Foundation for care of newborn infants in Germany
Formerly Head of Neonatology at University of Olm and Olm Hospital

Professor Tatsuma Isiyama
Head of Division of Neonatology at National Centre for Child Health and Development in Tokyo, Japan
Director of the Asian Neonatal Network

Professor Joann Langley
Professor in department of Paediatrics of Community Health and Epidemiology at Dalhousie University, Canada
Holder of Canadian Institute of Health research Glaxo-Smithcline chair in Paediatric Vaccinology
Head of Division of Paediatric Diseases at IWK Health Centre in Halifax Canada

Professor Nina Modi
Professor of Neonatal Medicine at Imperial College, London
Honorary Consultant to Chelsea and Westminster NHS Foundation Trust
President of European Association of Perinatal Medicine
Former President of Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health in UK

Sandra Moore
Senior Staff Nurse at <inaudible> in Newmarket Canada
Member of the Sullivan MEdical Legal Experts, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada

Professor Michael Norman
Professor and Senior Physician at Department of Clinical Science, Intervention and Technology at Karolinska Institute, Sweden
Chairman of the Swedish Neonatal Quality Register
Founder of the International Society of Evidence based Neonatology
Formerly Head of Division of Neonatology at Karolinska Institute Hospital

Professor Bruno Pieboeuf
Professor Titular de Pediatry at Universitaire Laval, Canada
Coordinateur de Services Clinique de Rui de Universitaire LavalDirecteur de Affaires Universitaire Ministeur de la Sante et de Services Sociale de Quebec

Defence!!!
This trial took place in England!