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Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:06

I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

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Briannaco · 04/02/2025 22:21

OliveThe0therReindeer · 04/02/2025 22:20

Those of you saying that she behaved oddly or looked strange or wrote weird things etc - you have NO IDEA how you would behave if you had been in the same situation. None at all.

One of my children died in hospital ( after a very long illness ) and I had to leave them and drive home to get my other children. On my way home, I stopped at the petrol station to get fuel - is that a normal thing to do ? Is that what you imagine you would do having left your dead child in hospital? Does that make me guilty of something ?

Or was I in fact on autopilot ? And did I have I have a choice, since cars don’t run without fuel and I needed to get home.

Would the staff in the Petrol station ( if questioned months later ) have said they noticed anything odd about me ? Does that fact that I could still drive prove to the rest of you ( who have never been in that position ) that I’m a bad or heartless mother who didn’t love their child? What would my apparently normality prove to all you behavioural experts out there ?

Would I be more or less guilty because I’m white? Or does being fat and ugly make me more innocent ?

Honestly the level of stupidly in some comments on this thread is quite terrifying. Especially since some of you are eligible for jury service ☹️

There's a big difference.

You weren't WORKING there in a professional capacity.

Genevieva · 04/02/2025 22:21

fashionqueen0123 · 04/02/2025 22:14

I remember reading an article which showed that other babies had died too when she wasn’t there but they didn’t show those on the chart or something. It might have been part of the NYT article 🤔

The press conference today said there were 8 babies who died when she was on shift and 10 when she wasn't. It was very detailed. They have a team of 12 volunteers. Leading experts fro around the world in neonatology, statistics and other disciplines, who all looked at the evidence with an open mind and no preconceived opinions about her guilt. Separately each one concluded that the evidence in their area of expertise was so flawed that it could not be used to support a prosecution. It is honestly mind-blowing.

I read about it in the news last year, but I have to admit I wasn't greatly interested. From time to time terrible people do do terrible things and our justice system exists to deal with this. My natural inclination is to trust a jury of my peers to listen to the evidence and get it right. The fact that our justice system has failed to do its job at every stage in this case does interest me. The police, the CPS, the prosecution team and the defence team all failed in their duties. And that is huge. Not just for Lucy Letby sitting in prison after an unfair trial, but for all of us. We are all endangered by poor justice system.

Coolasfeck · 04/02/2025 22:22

bluedeepdish · 04/02/2025 22:17

I have no idea if Lucy Letby is innocent or guilty, none of us do. However there is a history of medical staff who were convicted for this kind of thing later being found to be innocent and essentially used as a scapegoat for wider failings within a hospital or medical system. Like I say I have no clue if this applies to this particular case but I think all the evidence and opinions should be looked at closely by experts.

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I have an idea that she is guilty because a modern court of law convicted her after a many months long trial.

SpiritAdder · 04/02/2025 22:22

Findmethesmallestviolin · 04/02/2025 22:21

Who paid for this panel?

No one. The experts all volunteered to do this pro bono.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 22:22

OliveThe0therReindeer · 04/02/2025 22:20

Those of you saying that she behaved oddly or looked strange or wrote weird things etc - you have NO IDEA how you would behave if you had been in the same situation. None at all.

One of my children died in hospital ( after a very long illness ) and I had to leave them and drive home to get my other children. On my way home, I stopped at the petrol station to get fuel - is that a normal thing to do ? Is that what you imagine you would do having left your dead child in hospital? Does that make me guilty of something ?

Or was I in fact on autopilot ? And did I have I have a choice, since cars don’t run without fuel and I needed to get home.

Would the staff in the Petrol station ( if questioned months later ) have said they noticed anything odd about me ? Does that fact that I could still drive prove to the rest of you ( who have never been in that position ) that I’m a bad or heartless mother who didn’t love their child? What would my apparently normality prove to all you behavioural experts out there ?

Would I be more or less guilty because I’m white? Or does being fat and ugly make me more innocent ?

Honestly the level of stupidly in some comments on this thread is quite terrifying. Especially since some of you are eligible for jury service ☹️

This! ^ Some very good points!

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 22:23

Coolasfeck · 04/02/2025 22:22

I have an idea that she is guilty because a modern court of law convicted her after a many months long trial.

Courts have got it wrong before.

Remember the Birmingham six?

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 22:23

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 22:12

Given social media is as open or closed as the person wants it to be Im not sure how its intrusive. I wouldnt say its weird.

Why don't you think it's weird? What on earth is acceptable about reading the fb pages of a person who has died, or thaose pages of their relatives? To read about their grief? Some vicarious thrill?
It is both unprofessional and disgusting.

oakleaffy · 04/02/2025 22:24

Thank goodness there isn't a death penalty- If she is innocent - then she's due a massive payout.

gallic · 04/02/2025 22:24

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:08

Hard disagree. I followed the trial very closely. She is guilty.

I really do think people’s mindset rests on her looks an ethnicity. If Lucy Letby was a black woman or fat or unattractive, nobody would be protesting her innocence

Oh ffs!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/02/2025 22:24

Coolasfeck · 04/02/2025 22:20

Sounds like her supporters have clubbed together to hire a new crack shot defence team and they are trying to turn the tide of public opinion to get people to campaign for a retrial.

You’ll always be able to dredge up people to muddy the waters. I wonder if those campaigning would feel entirely comfortable letting her babysit their babies?

Its like the guy who campaigned for Myra Hindleys release for decades all over again.

Her new barrister is acting pro bono. Nobody is being hired. 🙄

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 22:25

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 22:21

There's a big difference.

You weren't WORKING there in a professional capacity.

You're missing the point which is about how people's behaviour which is normal and not that out of the ordinary (even if people might tut tut about it) will be seen in retrospect

What if a parent loses a child in hospital and later is accused of having a hand in the death.

Suddenly people remember that they blithly drove home and coldly stopped off for petrol at a petrol station, perhaps they even bought some food or snacks (not having eating for days probably). Perhaps at the time they werent balling their eyes out so are perceived as not caring, cold, functional, odd

See how that can be written and sound?

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 22:26

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 22:23

Why don't you think it's weird? What on earth is acceptable about reading the fb pages of a person who has died, or thaose pages of their relatives? To read about their grief? Some vicarious thrill?
It is both unprofessional and disgusting.

People do it though..... Morbid curiosity it's called. Doesn't make people nasty or evil or weird. Just curious and nosey. I bet even YOU have done it. 😆

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 04/02/2025 22:27

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:28

You don’t know wether she’s unlikable just by looking at her

Well you’ve had plenty to say in your posts based on the fact that’s she’s white and not fat!

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 22:27

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 22:25

You're missing the point which is about how people's behaviour which is normal and not that out of the ordinary (even if people might tut tut about it) will be seen in retrospect

What if a parent loses a child in hospital and later is accused of having a hand in the death.

Suddenly people remember that they blithly drove home and coldly stopped off for petrol at a petrol station, perhaps they even bought some food or snacks (not having eating for days probably). Perhaps at the time they werent balling their eyes out so are perceived as not caring, cold, functional, odd

See how that can be written and sound?

Why on earth would getting petrol at a petrol station ever be seem as weird?

Sure everyone that drives HAS to get petrol at a petrol station

Briannaco · 04/02/2025 22:27

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/02/2025 22:26

People do it though..... Morbid curiosity it's called. Doesn't make people nasty or evil or weird. Just curious and nosey. I bet even YOU have done it. 😆

I haven't.

MotionIntheOcean · 04/02/2025 22:28

There are very few people who know from personal or professional experience what constitutes normal behaviour on arrest for multiple baby murders. The people who lack this knowledge but still feel the need to opine sound really thick.

TouchOfSilverShampoo · 04/02/2025 22:28

@Dramatic Any legal counsel can find an "expert" in any trial to say whatever they like to fit their narrative.

There are a hundred examples of that online with a quick google search.

She's a baby killer. She was convicted beyond reasonable doubt.

Those poor parents having to read threads like this at baby killer sympathizers. Fucking shocking.

Avocando · 04/02/2025 22:28

And actually sticking up for @JandamiHash a bit here, after the pile on.

There is research that suggests there is a racial bias within the criminal justice system. A lot of it is non intentional. A lot of people are quick to point out “people bring race into everything” but for a lot of people it the reality every day that they ARE treated in a certain way, however minor it may seem to be to someone outside of that experience. A lot of people say things like “I don’t see colour/I don’t care what they look like” but will be making subconscious judgements regardless.

you could argue that pretty or “normal looking” people of a certain demographic are more likely to be treated leniently by consequence. (I’m not completely in agreement with this)

However, I don’t believe that LL has been treated more leniently in this case.

AcquadiP · 04/02/2025 22:28

mommatoone · 04/02/2025 21:54

I can, it happens on a lot of threads on here, It's getting tiresome now. 😴

I completely agree. I can not think of any woman as universally despised in this country as Moira Hindley was and she was a white, slim, attractive(ish) woman. Definitely no 'miscarriage of justice' talk there.

Coffee62 · 04/02/2025 22:28

What about all the notes found where she’d scrawled things like “I did it I killed them” ?

soupyspoon · 04/02/2025 22:28

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 04/02/2025 22:23

Why don't you think it's weird? What on earth is acceptable about reading the fb pages of a person who has died, or thaose pages of their relatives? To read about their grief? Some vicarious thrill?
It is both unprofessional and disgusting.

Humans are interested in other humans, its our nature. Facebook isnt private and if its private no one can see the pages anyway

Coolasfeck · 04/02/2025 22:29

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/02/2025 22:24

Her new barrister is acting pro bono. Nobody is being hired. 🙄

So everyone is working for free, not even having expenses paid? Has a Netflix crew been seen around?

NotAScoobyDoo2 · 04/02/2025 22:29

I thought the whole thing was odd. The amount of media speculation and the fact it involved babies meant that people wanted someone to blame. It always felt very convenient and easy.

Also, this was a complex case - Jo Bloggs on the street isn't used to analysing complex data and whether people admit it to themselves or not, most jurists come in to court with their own life experiences and biases.

I really feel for her. I hope she can get the fair trial she deserves.

Paul2023 · 04/02/2025 22:29

I’ve not read this thread. But two things I have considered;

She was convicted after a lengthy trial by a jury. They heard all the evidence, much of which we won’t know.

Secondly- didn’t she have disturbing diary confessions?

AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 04/02/2025 22:29

I don’t believe LL is guilty, I believe that this case will be similar to the Lucia De Berk case.

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