Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

[Rainingalldayonmyhead]

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

Totally agree and since our oil is sold at a 20% discount to Americans he will be very hard pressed to find it cheaper elsewhere considering shipping costs as well. He has also committed to Americans cheaper energy bills so it won’t help him to shop elsewhere….:oh and the multiple refineries in the US that only refineries the specific kind of crude Canada exports.

But banning transwomen from women's space was a step towards regaining many women's rights which have been lost.

Not if you boycott those very goods you're talking about though. If Canada stops buying the goods - America won't have as much need for Canada's oil to make the goods to sell to Canada.

It won't help anything. The boycott could just make things worse.

A boycott of goods from China, Korea, Japan, India, Pakistan, Russia, Israel, the Middle East in general, South America, Mexico, the whole of Africa or the EU is more pressing than a boycott of stuff from the US. I'd rather boycott regimes which use child labour or actively want to end our way of life than opposing Trump because he's Trump.

@ChessorBuckaroo has no idea what we are all talking about.

Good luck with finding any goods left to buy then.

Lol.. it was YOU who said cement. Bleedin cheek.

To remind you once again, Portland cement is the most common cement used around the world. It was named by its BRITISH inventor after Portland stone. Perhaps you thought Portland in america as opposed to Portland in Dorset (though that confusion would probably be giving you too much credit).

america then IMPORTED this cement from England (just as it did the first train they used which was built in Britain, and they also had the Scottish inventor of the modern road brought over to build their first macadam road, and they used steel invented by Sir Henry Bessemer for their skyscrapers, and used the curtain wall invented by Peter Ellis in Liverpool for the exterior of skyscrapers).

If you removed the roads, the rail, the cement, the steel, and the exterior, and the wooden desk (also made in Britain) Trump uses to sign his papers on, america would be empty. The only thing left standing would be the few remaining tepees (and unfortunately there are not enough of them after the massacres).

Yeah but I never did drink that gassy pisswater in the first place, so how can I boycott it?

I'm really struggling to think of an American product I have bought in the last year.

I’d love nothing better than to boycott American goods but I don’t buy much from that list! I can’t stand their sweets and chocolate so wouldn’t buy anyway. Is there anything else we should avoid?

I know it doesn't come across that way, but my posts are largely in jest.

The whole idea of boycotting is nonsense (unless in extreme circumstances such as apartheid South Africa where you would be endorsing a regime).

Truth is america makes (and creates) loads of great stuff. Chocolate chip cookies (up there with the best British biscuits imo), muffins (not the English muffin in a McDs breakfast, the sweet version), kelloggs cereals (would have been lost without coco pops), coca cola (my luxury item on Desert Island Discs), Heinz ketchup (cannot eat fish n chips without it), Snickers (also up there with the best British bars from cadbury, rowntree, fry), Pringles (must be the flavours used in British crisps though, salt n vinegar the top choice), and their fried chicken is delicious too.

I can't think of a single thing that I buy that's from the USA?

Me neither. I had a feeling that Ben and Jerrys and Smirnoff Vodka were, but on checking, it appears that they are made in Europe, or at least the ones in the UK market are made in Europe.

Other than that, I genuinely can't think of a single thing either?

It's usually made in the country it's consumed or quite near, often to a slightly different recipe to cater to that country's regulations and tastes, for example Magnum ice creams. may taste slightly different on holiday

..for example Magnum ice creams. may taste slightly different on holiday.

In Greece it will be called 'Magic' because in that country the name 'Magnum' is owned by Nestlé, whereas the product we know as Magnum is owned by Unilever.

And the sign outside the cafe or shop that sells Magnum will say 'Miko' in France and 'Algida' in Italy.

Bit off topic.

Ben & Jerry's is a new kid on the block (formed in 1978), Wall's (the main ice cream brand in the UK) dates from 1922. As mentioned by @Chersfrozenface Unilever is the parent company of Wall's, and is also headquartered in London.

There has to be some things that are US made we couldn't do without, but ice cream is certainly not one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall%27s_(ice_cream)

The whole idea of boycotting is nonsense (unless in extreme circumstances such as apartheid South Africa where you would be endorsing a regime).

@ChessorBuckaroo
Well the US government is now de facto run by a racist white South African. The new regime have released all of their insurrectionists from prison and have been dismantling the justice system. They have been rounding up minorities and deporting them. There are a lot of parallels with 1930s Germany.

Dh has been saying this for years about these ‘American candy store’ type shops. There was a huge one in Edinburgh that I couldn’t work out how they could bake any money yet I laughed off Dh’s suggestion 😂

'They have been rounding up minorities and deporting them'

Guess how many minorites were deported under the Obama administration?

Valid point.

See the Afrikaner has also aimed his ire at the South African government on their land reform policy.

Apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany were also directly inspired by america who was the global leader in race law, including its segregation policies; anti-miscegenation law (no race mixing/interracial marriage illegal) for one. So there is a lot of kinship between them. Musk is home away from home.

In terms of boycotting, I suppose it depends in how far this regime takes it. Was america boycotted in the 1960s? When Harry Truman was asked in 1963 about the prospect of interracial marraige becoming legal in america he said: "I hope not; I don’t believe in it. Would you want your daughter to marry a Negro? She won't love someone who isn't her color." It also had a white only immigration policy (Hitler admiringly wrote in Mein kampf: "The American Union categorically refuses the immigration of physically unhealthy elements, and simply excludes the immigration of certain races").

Pior to the 1965 act (linked), america was 85% White, with Black people (descendants of slaves) making up 11%, while Latinos made up less than 4%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

america's first naturalization law (1790 naturalization act) restricted naturalized citizenship to "white persons". A man from India in a 1920s legal case was denied american citizenship as he was not deemed white. (NY Times link).

https://www.nytimes.com/1923/02/20/archives/court-rules-hindu-not-a-white-person-bars-high-caste-native-of.html

True americans are white people. That's its foundation as a white setter entity. A land taken by whites (from the natives), for whites. The Africans who were brought over in shackles were only there to work the land taken from the Natives to provide wealth for the white elite, the planter class, jefferson, washington etc.

Non whites were either "savages" (Natives as they are labelled by the racist tyrant jefferson in the 'declaration'), "property" (as African slaves are designated in the articles of confederation), or generally "aliens" (all non whites, none of whom could be citizens).

So with all this in mind, was there a backlash against america's racist policies in the 1960s in the same way there was against Apartheid South Africa?

The Beatles travelled there and there was no backlash (as opposed to Queen who faced a backlash for playing Sun City, South Africa in 1984). The Beatles did refuse to play in front of segregated audiences in Florida, Los Angeles etc. but they still did travel there.

Is there one rule for one and one for another?

So with all this in mind, was there a backlash against america's racist policies in the 1960s in the same way there was against Apartheid South Africa?
@ChessorBuckaroo attitudes did change between the 1960s and 1980s in the UK. "No Irish, no blacks, no dogs" signs were common at one point, remember. It's difficult to make a comparison. If the US reversed civil rights in the 1980s would it have faced a similar backlash to SA? Undoubtedly Hollywood had done its bit to plant a vision of somewhere glamorous in the minds of Brits and skate over the dirty side. That façade is crumbling.

Deporting illegal immigrants is something the federal government is supposed to do. Maybe the UK should try it

In the 1980s in English football there was a racist hooligan element, racism was still there among the knuckledraggers of society, so that doesn't really explain the difference in attitude towards 1960s america and 1980s South Africa, and there was little to choose between either racially segregated entity.

As I say, I think it's one rule for one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14963752

The Beatles showed their support for the US civil rights movement by refusing to play in front of segregated audiences, a contract shows.

The document, which is to be auctioned next week, relates a 1965 concert at the Cow Palace in California.

Signed by manager Brian Epstein, it specifies that The Beatles "not be required to perform in front of a segregated audience".

Queen went to Sun City and the reaction was very different.

Absolutely, but the Deporter in Chief's record seems to have flown entirely under the liberal radar. Odd, right?

iirc he counted border encounters too. But border control was in fact taken seriously under Obama’s initial years. It used to be a left-wing cause

The whole idea of boycotting is nonsense (unless in extreme circumstances such as apartheid South Africa where you would be endorsing a regime).

Boycotts can also miss nuance. My DM boycotted South African fruit because she was opposed to apartheid. However she mentioned it once to a mum at school (this was the late 60s) and they completely agreed with the boycott. Because they didn't like the idea of all those black hands touching the fruit. 😳