Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

Just under $70 billion.

With the US having the biggest trade deficits with Mexico and China, and you being right next door - a huge country not buying as much as your selling, I bet that's why he's pissed.

So if you spend even less I can't see that helping.

Those bloody Romans again.

Imagine inventing self healing concert over 2000 years ago and then losing the recipe. They should have invented a better filing system.

They probably did the same with the ice cream recipe.

Very careless those Romans. 😂😂

Maybe Trump should look elsewhere to buy stuff from then instead of Canada?

Or make it themselves.

Perhaps he will.

And if Canada can buy stuff it needs cheaper elsewhere - or stuff that suits its values, regulations etc - then why not?

But would people want to trade with Trump when he treats his allies like this and rips up trade treaties at a whim?

An unreliable person to do business with .

Well of course. I'm just saying that's what's riling him it seems. So to poke the bear doesn't seem like a solution that will work, that's all. It will just ramp it up I reckon.

A trade treaty with Trump seems like a worthless piece of paper people would be pleased with but I suppose some people would want to appease him in this so as not to annoy him.

Surely it's better for the environment to trade with our closest neighbours when possible?

One of the reasons Brexit didn't make sense is we ended up trading with countries much further away, at a time we are meant to be prioritising the environment.

All of this concern about the environment amounts to nothing if we don't consider the environment in big decisions. In every decision really.

What is the value of that? If a product is "cheap" there is usually someone or something being exploited in the creation of it. Watch "The Story of Stuff" on Whatever the non USA owned version of You Tube is.

Canada's a massive country with unfathomable natural resources. Shopping local, buying Canadian should be quite easy.

But in this time of climate crisis it would be nuts to increase trade with South Africa for products that could be bought from USA to punish a rich man who really doesn't give a fuck.

you didn’t look hard! I read it in the telegraph

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/01/26/voters-donald-trump-border-emergency-channel-us-tariffs-dei

Doesn't that also depend on the environment, the regulations, the standards that the product is manufactured in?

Your nearest neighbour may not care too much about the environment and may not have good standards when it comes to making the product you want to buy.

You've gone awfully quiet!

"Cement" FFS

It was also the bleedin Brits who built the first modern roads over there (Scottish engineer John Loudon McAdam). The image below is of that very road.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadam

The mac in his name is preceded by tar, to make tarmac, patented by Welsh inventor Edgar Purnell Hooley in 1902.

The Brits also exported the first train they used
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stourbridge_Lion

The Brits also invented the steel they used to make skyscrapers, Bessemer steel named after its inventor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bessemer

And the outer shell of skyscrapers, the curtain wall, invented by Peter Ellis in Liverpool in 1865, which the american architects witnessed and took back.

So road, rail, steel, curtain wall, and...the Iron bridge, with (naturally enough) the first being The Iron Bridge

Basically most of america's infrastructure uses British stuff. Even the bleedin wooden desk Trump uses, the Resolute desk, is British (a gift by Queen Victoria).

Still getting all those "facts" of yours from US owned Wikipedia I see.

Good to see Bob Rae speaking up for Canada.

A great invention by Jimmy Wales yes.

Mumsnet is a British site though.

And I've just debunked your nonsense. Not only was the modern cement making process invented in Britain (and roads, rail, steel, curtain wall, iron bridge), Portland stone was transported across the Atlantic for the United Nations headquarters in New York City.

I thought I'd look up some products I would, as a Canadian, have to give up. I started with ice cream, searching my favourite brand. This top result included this: "HÄAGEN-DAZS Ice Cream | Proudly Made in Canada”

I doubt they ever had that last bit before? Yes, it's an American brand.

I might have to switch to Kawartha Dairy.

Also the claim that US withdrawing from WHO because it costs the US more than other countries is a furphy. I did the sums and. per capita, my country is paying more to WHO than the US. But it is mad that some Americans believe they are the biggest contributors per capita when they are not. It’s just more propaganda.

I thought we were supposed to be discussing a boycott of US MADE products. Where something was invented has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.

Yeah we renegotiated NAFTA after he basically ripped that treaty up in his first term in office. He then renegotiated and signed a new trading agreement with Mexico and Canada. He’s all but just ripped that up so look where that got us…..

It is actually but not sure why you care when you have said repeatedly you are against it and now for some reason it’s funny to you?

Canadians aren’t choosing American products. American products are being removed from shelves and before you think what’s a few items going to do? A billion in American alcohol sold in Canada each year - most alcohol stores are provincially owned and aren’t selling it anymore. The Premier of Ontarionhas just cancelled £100 million work of American projects. These are but two example so yeah it’s going well. We are united and won’t be deterred by a few negative people.

Team Canada 🇨🇦

We have every right to be angry with the WHO for covering up the lab leak just because it made China look bad. And throwing out the usual pandemic protocols for untried and untested measures such as quarantining healthy people.

What is the point of them? They made everything worse imho

What is the point of the World Health Organisation?

https://www.who.int/initiatives

Do you know what they do?

The USA isn't an island. But cutting off USAID funding, not supporting funding of the WHO, it seems that the US does think it's an island, away from the rest of the world..

What I am saying is that they showed themselves to be more concerned with politics, they allowed China the pretense of a natural origin for the virus without a full investigation. And most of you bought it. Also, as I noted they threw away their pandemic planning for a totally untested measure that basically plunged the globe into a recession.

Why would they do this?

If you want trust, this is not what you do.

I can't help thinking you might be shooting yourselves in the foot by increasing the trade deficit with your boycott.

The US has a trade surplus with Canada once you exclude oil and gas- which it uses to make the goods it sells to.... Canada.

Graph in link

https://bsky.app/profile/anthonypainter.bsky.social/post/3lhg547s5zk24