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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 14:32

Grammarnut · 03/02/2025 14:18

The British are not responsible for the actions of Alexander Borgia, who divided the world up between Spain and Portugal, not the expanding northern European nations. Medieval popes tended to favour whoever could bribe them or had a sufficiently powerful army to counter Papal forces.

The point I was making was that after what USians call the French and Indian Wars, part of the treaty was that Britain would not pass the Appallachians. This the colonists objected to, as some were perforce moved from land they had taken.
The colonists on the eastern seabord of North America rebelled because they were asked to pay tax. The British had expended lives and money protecting them, after all.
The Boston Tea Party has more to do with keeping the price of tea high to benefit merchants than with freedom - we'd call what the Tea Partyers did the illegal action of a cartel now. The Boston Massacre was a small riot where several British soldiers - who were keeping the peace - shot some members of a crowd approximating 400 people who were throwing missiles at the soldiers. The American Rebellion was part of a larger war where the British fought the French and Spanish. It was French and Spanish troops who defeated the British, not the colonists. Which makes the annexation of California in the 1840s, by invasion, a bit thick.
It was the post-rebellion colonists who spread disease and war among the Native Americans of North America - NB many of those Native Americans fought for the British in the rebellion and again during the disastrous war of 1812, an attempt to annexe Canada, when the US was defeated.
I did not speak of European history, I spoke of some British history. The history you spoke of is known to me, it was not relevant to the point I was making.

Well anything done to the Native Americans prior to 1776 lands squarely on the shoulders of Britain. See the US did not exist prior to that. It was all Britain and the King.

The revolution was not about the Native Americans at all as already stated.

ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 14:35

Look at this image of the elite planter class (jefferson, washington et al.). It's like a Ku Klux Klan convention. These slave owning "founders" and their racist white settler 'declaration' dehumanized the Natives as "savages", the "savages" being the owners of the land these imperialist, racist, slave owning tyrants had stolen.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/facebook-declaration-of-independence-hate-speech

Facebook labels declaration of independence as 'hate speech'

The website told a local newspaper they violated its community guidelines by posting the original document

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/facebook-declaration-of-independence-hate-speech

ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 14:37

And on being dehumanized as "savages" by these racist tyrants, a spokesman for the Natives said;

,"Any holiday that would refer to my people in such a repugnant, racist manner is certainly not worth celebrating. [July Fourth] is a day we celebrate our resiliency, our culture, our languages, our children and we mourn the millions — literally millions — of indigenous people who have died as a consequence of American imperialism."

https://www.mic.com/articles/121671/native-americans-have-nothing-to-celebrate-on-july-4#.Qst75mbCL

Millions of Americans Have Nothing to Celebrate on the Fourth of July

To ring in another July Fourth, most Americans will kick off celebrations with beer, BBQ and fireworks.  Most, but not all. On Independence Day, the stirring words of Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence, promising "Life, Liberty and the…

https://www.mic.com/articles/121671/native-americans-have-nothing-to-celebrate-on-july-4#.Qst75mbCL

Andylion · 03/02/2025 14:38

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

T!he very fact that you have posted your support this way suggests you don’t have a clue what is going on.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 14:42

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 14:29

It worked well the first time around?

Studies have found that Trump's tariffs reduced real income in the United States, as well as adversely affecting U.S. GDP

And how is that wall coming along?

Not bad

…oops I misread I thought you were asking about the GDP.

As far as the wall it’s going as well as can be expected when it was blocked for four years. People were sued when trying to create their own barriers at no cost to the government, and the materials that were purchased were sold off as scrap thanks to the previous administration.

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico
ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 14:57

July 4th - Imperialism day. A day for whites to celebrate the subjugation, conquest and dehumanization of a people.

(Pro slavery) National anthem - (British tune) lyrics written by a slave owning tyrant Francis Scott Key with the 3rd verse (conveniently no longer sung) excoriating the slaves who fled the plantations of george washington and other slave owners in order to join the British and gain their freedom.

LastTrainsEast · 03/02/2025 15:02

Tomatotater · 02/02/2025 09:28

The tariffs will last about 5 minutes- until US prices go up because there is a 25% increase in prices of all goods from Mexico and Canada and because there is a shortage of oil from Canada and their food prices go through the roof. The MAGA's are like the Brexiteers. They want to go back to the days of Empire/stealing land from Native Americans but then realise they cant do that anymore.

It's more likely that the tariffs will last about 5 minutes with Canada promising to patrol borders and stop not just the immigrants but the drugs coming across.

President Trump has already had one success with Columbia over immigration and deportees using Tariffs to motivate them and I expect the success with Venezuela was similar.

ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 15:14

This was the statue of the slave owning lyricist of the pro slavery national anthem in 2016 before it was torn down and replaced with 350 sculptures which now encircle the plinth of the empty monument, each to represent the first Africans kidnapped from Angola and transported across the Atlantic.

Nobody with any decency should be singing that pro slavery song. The black people have their own anthem "Lift Every Voice and Sing", its about time the others came up with something new as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Francis_Scott_Key_(San_Francisco)

Statue of Francis Scott Key (San Francisco) - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Francis_Scott_Key_(San_Francisco)

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 15:16

LastTrainsEast · 03/02/2025 15:02

It's more likely that the tariffs will last about 5 minutes with Canada promising to patrol borders and stop not just the immigrants but the drugs coming across.

President Trump has already had one success with Columbia over immigration and deportees using Tariffs to motivate them and I expect the success with Venezuela was similar.

Colombia unless you mean the US city

Colombia's objection was that the deportees were shackled, nothing to do with tariffs

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:19

Goldenbear · 03/02/2025 13:51

Wow, your wording is outrageous, "when we gave them the canal", do you mean when you returned something that wasn't yours to begin with!

It’s like people can’t understand that the PANAMA canal runs right through wait for it …..the middle of the country of PANAMA. It’s the country of PANAMA that owns/runs it. Nothing to do with the US except they want to take it over and own it.

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:23

LastTrainsEast · 03/02/2025 15:02

It's more likely that the tariffs will last about 5 minutes with Canada promising to patrol borders and stop not just the immigrants but the drugs coming across.

President Trump has already had one success with Columbia over immigration and deportees using Tariffs to motivate them and I expect the success with Venezuela was similar.

Are you for real? There are more drugs, guns and illegal Im migrants coming from the US to Canada. Let that sink in. Should we demand Trump build a wall and charge him for it?

Less than 1% of illegal imigrant come from Canada and less than 1% of phen goes from Canada to thr US.

We do patrol the borders hence the very low rates. Maybe the US can patrol them too.

Maybe turn off Fox News and get the facts.

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ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 15:24

Anyway that's enough background in the history of the white settler state and its early slave owning racist presidents, Lincoln who came later was a racist too (1858 quote "I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race), and T.Roosevelt showed zero remorse for the death of the Native people in 1886), so Trump is merely the latest in a long line of wretched individuals who lead the white settler entity. In fact he is benign in comparison.

If he does try to take Canada, Greenland, Panama canal (and being a settler state stealing land is why it exists) then he may put himself among the demons of history. None will touch jefferson though, the "monster of Monticello".

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:25

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:19

It’s like people can’t understand that the PANAMA canal runs right through wait for it …..the middle of the country of PANAMA. It’s the country of PANAMA that owns/runs it. Nothing to do with the US except they want to take it over and own it.

Not quite that simple…

When Teddy Roosevelt signed the Hay–Bunau-Varilla Treaty in 1903, the country of Panama was just 15 days old. The isthmus had been ruled by Colombia, but the Colombian government was reeling from a bloody civil war. The Roosevelt administration saw an opportunity. The Americans promised to support a Panamanian bid for independence in exchange for the rights to construct the Panama Canal and operate it within a sovereign, U.S.-run Canal Zone.

https://www.history.com/news/panama-canal-return-panama-treaties-carter

Why the US Returned the Panama Canal | HISTORY

After decades of strained relations, treaties signed in 1977 paved the way to ending American management of the 51‑mile‑long waterway.

https://www.history.com/news/panama-canal-return-panama-treaties-carter

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:26

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 12:40

How is this a troll comment? Trudeau lost all credibility when those pictures surfaced. Also the pompous moral high ground he likes to channel as he tries to shame the US in his little speech.

Are you uncomfortable supporting your racist PM?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-votes-2019-trudeau-blackface-brownface-cbc-explains-1.5290664

I’ve deleted the auto image of the CBC link due to it’s disturbing content

Seriousky? This has absolutely nothing to do with tariffs being imposed on Canada and I seriousky think before a tit for tat on which leader is worse you may want to consider yours is a convicted felon.

Yeah those things happened decades ago and have been apologised for.

Move on. It’s a troll comment as you are trying to deflect from the real issue.

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:27

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:23

Are you for real? There are more drugs, guns and illegal Im migrants coming from the US to Canada. Let that sink in. Should we demand Trump build a wall and charge him for it?

Less than 1% of illegal imigrant come from Canada and less than 1% of phen goes from Canada to thr US.

We do patrol the borders hence the very low rates. Maybe the US can patrol them too.

Maybe turn off Fox News and get the facts.

So you’re saying that both countries would benefit from better border security?

Canada gets less guns and drugs and the US gets less terrorists.

We found something we can agree on!

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:29

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:26

Seriousky? This has absolutely nothing to do with tariffs being imposed on Canada and I seriousky think before a tit for tat on which leader is worse you may want to consider yours is a convicted felon.

Yeah those things happened decades ago and have been apologised for.

Move on. It’s a troll comment as you are trying to deflect from the real issue.

No, I was commenting about a speech given by a lame duck leader that I believe you added to the conversation. As you’ve pointed out character matters.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:32

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:27

So you’re saying that both countries would benefit from better border security?

Canada gets less guns and drugs and the US gets less terrorists.

We found something we can agree on!

No what I’m saying is that the US isn’t exactly lily white and we work with our partners, neighbours and allies instead of bullying them and imposing damaging tariffs (for both sides) to blackmail a change by one side.

And since it bothers you so much Canada has spent 1.3 billion on border security to do just that.

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MikeRafone · 03/02/2025 15:34

The uk imports £111.5 billion from US

whilst we export £27 billion

which is why trump isn’t coming for uk yet

but how do you boy it £111.5 billion imports?

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:35

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:29

No, I was commenting about a speech given by a lame duck leader that I believe you added to the conversation. As you’ve pointed out character matters.

What are you on about. Yea he resigned but he’s still our leader: his character isn’t in question for decades old mistakes to which have been apologised for.

You are deflecting from the real issue of the bully Trump who has imposed tariffs against its neighbour to the north. If you want to discuss colonialism etc create your own thread and go somewhere else.

If character bothers you maybe discuss the convicted felon currently the US president there.

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:37

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:25

Not quite that simple…

When Teddy Roosevelt signed the Hay–Bunau-Varilla Treaty in 1903, the country of Panama was just 15 days old. The isthmus had been ruled by Colombia, but the Colombian government was reeling from a bloody civil war. The Roosevelt administration saw an opportunity. The Americans promised to support a Panamanian bid for independence in exchange for the rights to construct the Panama Canal and operate it within a sovereign, U.S.-run Canal Zone.

https://www.history.com/news/panama-canal-return-panama-treaties-carter

I understand the history very well. Despite this it’s still Panama. Not the US.

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:38

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:35

What are you on about. Yea he resigned but he’s still our leader: his character isn’t in question for decades old mistakes to which have been apologised for.

You are deflecting from the real issue of the bully Trump who has imposed tariffs against its neighbour to the north. If you want to discuss colonialism etc create your own thread and go somewhere else.

If character bothers you maybe discuss the convicted felon currently the US president there.

This thread has gone in so many directions which is why my comments are all over the place. So don’t blame me, I’m not changing the subject, just replying to what I’m reading. 😁

Meadowfinch · 03/02/2025 15:40

I can't think of anything I own that is made in the USA so my boycotting them wouldn't make any difference, but I won't be travelling to the US while Trump is in power.

I didn't last time and I won't now. It doesn't feel safe for women or for anyone else. Trump's completely rabid and will lead a rabid administration.

So the Caribbean rather than California, and Whistler rather than Tahoe.

No loss!! 🤗

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:42

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 15:37

I understand the history very well. Despite this it’s still Panama. Not the US.

Never said it wasn’t in Panama… just pointing out that it isn’t as simple as the US looking around and saying “Hey! There’s something we want”. The way you phrased it was like the US pointed at the Eiffel Tower and said oh we’ll have that.

The US historically had a large stake in the Panama Canal up to and including building and essentially owning it.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 03/02/2025 15:47

Meadowfinch · 03/02/2025 15:40

I can't think of anything I own that is made in the USA so my boycotting them wouldn't make any difference, but I won't be travelling to the US while Trump is in power.

I didn't last time and I won't now. It doesn't feel safe for women or for anyone else. Trump's completely rabid and will lead a rabid administration.

So the Caribbean rather than California, and Whistler rather than Tahoe.

No loss!! 🤗

just make sure you don’t stay at any US owned resorts 😁