Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

What is the background to the 15% tariff discount applied to China? Good mates with Xi Jinping, or what? 😊

I was wondering when someone would make this point.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/exports/united-kingdom

Why because they’re unable or unwilling to stop illegal crossings into the US and that their own open door policy is causing an effect on the US?

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/illegal-crossings-northern-us-border-terror-suspects-arrested/

OP, 40% of Canadian oil goes through the US because oil from Western Canada cannot be piped to Eastern Canada--that pipeline doesn't exist because Canadian environmentalists stopped it. Instead oil from W Canada goes to the US, is refined (because Canada doesn't have the ability to refine their "sour" crude) and then sent back to Eastern Canada to be consumed. If Canada stops the oil going to the US, Eastern Canada will suffer.

In all honesty I'm not going to waste my time engaging or debating with a Trump deciple, it's literally a pointless exercise, there I no point in deluding yourself that I will learn anything from your posts and links.

What century are you living in? My dh is native American (Sac and Fox) and has never lived in a "cage." He grew up in a 5 bedroom house in a nice suburb and has enjoyed all of the benefits of being an American, got a good education, a great job and together we raised two beautiful children "of color." Our son is a software engineer for a company whose name you would recognize and our daughter is a medical doctor. We are now comfortably retired. He has always enjoyed the same rights, freedoms, and responsibilities as every other American, and every other native American we know has a similar story.

BTW, according to the official exit poll, 65% of native Americans voted for Trump.

Disciple not 'deciple'.

Well that’s lazy. But ok, have a great day.

He never threatened to invade Greenland or Panama. He's hoping to convince Greenland to make a deal to become a territory.

And Panama already blinked, and will be ending their "Belt and Road' initiative with China, which is what Trump really wanted. Panama didn't have a leg to stand on. When we gave them the canal they promised to run it in perpetuity. They abrogated the treaty by allowing China to run it. Since Panama had abrogated the treaty, the US was well within international law to declare the treaty null and void and take back the canal by force. It only took one visit by our new Secretary of State to convince them of the error of their ways.

It’s not an offer, it’s a threat. This is him saying that he wants Canada’s resources and will take it by force if necessary.
And he doesn’t mean state like Hawaii, he means like a colony for resources where we wouldn’t have voting rights. Like Peurto Rico.

Trump is a bully .. the only way to deal with bullies is to stand up to them. The world needs to work out a way round him, not appease him.
He wants an “America First” isolationist policy, find .. let him have it … and when his people are starving in the streets, let’s see how popular he is.

It's not 'lazy', it is common sense. I'm sure you feel the same about my posts. Besides, I'm British so I'm not speaking on behalf of Canadians who would be much more informed on what is happening with regards to your question.

How are tariffs going to stop illegal immigration? And how does that apply to the EU?

I don’t think we have to believe that. He agreed to trade terms 4 years ago and he’s not sticking to those!

That exit poll was based on 229 self-identified native Americans who didn't live on reservations. Hardly credible as a piece of reserach, was it?

1 in 3 native Americans live in poverty according to 2024 figures, so it would seem that quite a lot of them don't have 5 bedroom nice suburban houses.

You perhaps need to expand your friendship group if you don't know any native Americans who haven't grown up in similar style. Oklahoma (assuming he is Sac and Fox then likely grew up in that state - 2/3rds of the registered tribal population is from there) is an anomoly in the statistics and the only state in which there was a recorded majority for Republicans amongst native Americans in the election. Of course the statistics available in all sorts of areas of study are complicated by the fact that native Americans are still outliers when it comes to recording demographic information - they literally often do not count, whereas even Black and Hispanic groups are recorded seperately but native Americans aren't.

Wow, your wording is outrageous, "when we gave them the canal", do you mean when you returned something that wasn't yours to begin with!

Message from the Premier of Ontario !!

Starting today and until U.S. tariffs are removed, Ontario is banning American companies from provincial contracts.

Every year, the Ontario government and its agencies spend $30 billion on procurement, alongside our $200 billion plan to build Ontario. U.S.-based businesses will now lose out on tens of billions of dollars in new revenues. They only have President Trump to blame.

We’re going one step further. We’ll be ripping up the province’s contract with Starlink. Ontario won’t do business with people hellbent on destroying our economy.

Canada didn't start this fight with the U.S., but you better believe we're ready to win it.

The tariffs are a stick to get border control. It worked in his first term and it will work again. The US will also likely end up with better trade deals in the end.

The tariffs will likely not have that big of an effect on a good portion of the manufacturing trade with Mexico that the US has a stake in due to the Maquiladora arrangements, but admittedly there’s very little on the subject in the news. Where it will hit MX is in the agricultural trade. The US consumer can absorb a cost increase using US growers more than MX can absorb their agriculture industry losing trade.

CA is different and I suspect it’s going to cause higher fuel prices. But 2 things will mitigate that. 1 is that CA exports crude oil and the US refines it. So the increases will hurt CA (and MX) on the back end as refined oil prices raise. The other thing that isn’t being talked about is the US crude oil. I also suspect that this will kickstart US crude oil industry again along with the fracking industry.

Some of this is opinion on my part and speculation as there isn’t enough reporting and information available so don’t take it all as fact.

That’s a bold move. I wonder what the termination terms on those contracts are. It will be interesting to see what happens.

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The British are not responsible for the actions of Alexander Borgia, who divided the world up between Spain and Portugal, not the expanding northern European nations. Medieval popes tended to favour whoever could bribe them or had a sufficiently powerful army to counter Papal forces.

The point I was making was that after what USians call the French and Indian Wars, part of the treaty was that Britain would not pass the Appallachians. This the colonists objected to, as some were perforce moved from land they had taken.
The colonists on the eastern seabord of North America rebelled because they were asked to pay tax. The British had expended lives and money protecting them, after all.
The Boston Tea Party has more to do with keeping the price of tea high to benefit merchants than with freedom - we'd call what the Tea Partyers did the illegal action of a cartel now. The Boston Massacre was a small riot where several British soldiers - who were keeping the peace - shot some members of a crowd approximating 400 people who were throwing missiles at the soldiers. The American Rebellion was part of a larger war where the British fought the French and Spanish. It was French and Spanish troops who defeated the British, not the colonists. Which makes the annexation of California in the 1840s, by invasion, a bit thick.
It was the post-rebellion colonists who spread disease and war among the Native Americans of North America - NB many of those Native Americans fought for the British in the rebellion and again during the disastrous war of 1812, an attempt to annexe Canada, when the US was defeated.
I did not speak of European history, I spoke of some British history. The history you spoke of is known to me, it was not relevant to the point I was making.

In response to a previous ignoramus:

When Hitler admiringly stated in 1928 that the white settlers had "gunned down the millions of Redskins to a few hundred thousand, and now keep the modest remnant under observation in a cage"

The cage he was referring to are the reservations the survivors of the genocide were forced into during the ethnic cleansing. They still live in those cages.

Here is an image of the state sponsored ethnic cleansing of these "savages" as that slave owning tyrant jefferson labelled them in the white settler 'declaration'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism

Now do Canada

Wow.

It worked well the first time around?

Studies have found that Trump's tariffs reduced real income in the United States, as well as adversely affecting U.S. GDP

And how is that wall coming along?