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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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HappyNewFeckingYear · 03/02/2025 08:16

I guess Canada can put the oil sales back up to market price.
The US did well on the old trade deal.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:17

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Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:23

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:15

America isn’t a continent. North America is a continent which is comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico. Please tell me you knew that or that your wilful ignorance was to make a point.

Yes the US is a beautiful country and I hate to break it to you everything you have said is equally true about Canada.

I don’t hate America or Americans at all. I haven’t been disparaging or negative toward the people or the country at all (including hen dos????!.

This is about your President being a bully toward its long standing peaceful neighbour and ally to the North.

What's peaceful about the systematic sterilisation and killing of indigenous people?

Why are you so quick to sweep this under the carpet and act like your government is some innocent victim?

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 08:32

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

"We" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Meanwhile, Trump has attacked savings and pensions as stock markets fall around the world.

This will potentially hit UK inflation and borrowing costs - so our economy as well.

Upstartled · 03/02/2025 08:36

Meanwhile, Trump has attacked savings and pensions as stock markets fall around the world

Yes, the FTSE plugged to a level not seen till last Wednesday before it started to climb again.

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:37

From the BBC

Trading on European stock markets has just got under way and, as expected, they have fallen in reaction to Donald Trump’s tariff plans.

The main share indexes in both France and Germany are down by about 2%, while in London the FTSE 100 share index fell 1.2%.

Shares in German carmaker VW have dropped 5%. The company has operations in Mexico which leaves it exposed to the impact of the tariffs.

Tisthedamnseason · 03/02/2025 08:38

We shall see, hopefully it'll be a message for other countries and convince Canada to tighten their own borders.

But more illegal immigrants go from the USA to Canada than the other way round (unsurprisingly). So by Trump's own justification, Canada is perfectly entitled to raise tariffs as well.

Or, just maybe that's not the actual reason.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:41

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Parker231 · 03/02/2025 08:43

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

Why?

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:44

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

Good for you. And when this affects jobs, inflation, your economy and the cost of living caused by a complete not reason Trump in the US and him ripping up an agreement he negotiated and signed only a few years ago then I hope you stand by that.

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Parker231 · 03/02/2025 08:43

Why?

Because there is always one 😂

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Tomatotater · 03/02/2025 08:54

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

Your President has financially attacked other countries, and his own country.

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:59

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

Your president is threatening to invade Greenland and take the Panama Canal by force.

Abhannmor · 03/02/2025 09:01

I stopped using Amazon ages ago , not specifically about Trump. Dumped Twitter when it was banning feminists and see no reason to go back. Reddit. Starbucks. Clinging onto FB - several fellow wrinklies on there , too old to change. I disable it sometimes though. Don't see many ' made in USA ' goods in shops though?

Tomatotater · 03/02/2025 09:02

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:59

Your president is threatening to invade Greenland and take the Panama Canal by force.

The US also gets free access to the Panama Canal, so the US already has pretty favourable terms with other countries. Panama would be within thrir rights to renege on that deal and start charging them.

StandFirm · 03/02/2025 09:05

ClareBlue · 02/02/2025 14:23

The EU has created one of the biggest barriers to trade in the world. If you are outside the EU block, which is similar to saying you are outside the USA, then to access trade into the block is full of excessive regulatory measures, quota requirements, competition against state subsidised business that have artificially reduced cost bases, excessive and costly trading pre requisites and much more which does include tariffs for some Countries.. And brexit has shown how huge they are. The UK is regulatory aligned to EU in all production requirements but still faces huge barriers to trade with EU. Why is that? We produce goods to all the requirements of the EU, so all the difficulty trading with them are barriers they create to trade into the common market. Why? To protect their production. Exactly what Trump is doing.
The EU does not trade freely what so ever. It trades freely within its Union but protects itself from competition from outside trade. The USA trades freely within its union and is looking to do the same thing as the EU does. Though less subtly, as is the way of Mr Trump.

All very good arguments as to why it was so insane to leave the customs union (and the single market btw). Life outside of the bloc, exposed to the whims of the new US administration and subject to the - now that we're no longer at the table- arbitrary rule of the EU is just wonderful for our prosperity! (because we can't stop trading with our neighbours, believe it or not we've always needed to and we will continue to need to!)

SinnerBoy · 03/02/2025 09:10

Tomatotater · Today 09:02

The US also gets free access to the Panama Canal, so the US already has pretty favourable terms with other countries. Panama would be within thrir rights to renege on that deal and start charging them.

I don't know where you got that idea from, all ships pay transit fees to navigate the Panama Canal. Trump was whining that American ships pay more, which is patently untrue and he used it as a false justification for his threat to seize it.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 03/02/2025 09:11

If people still buy from China why would they stop buying from America?

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 09:13

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ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 09:14

LakieLady · 02/02/2025 12:59

There are quite a few companies that are perceived as UK based but that are part of huge US conglomerates. You might be surprised.

Google Mondelez International, for example, and you'll find loads of "British" brand names among their brands, inc Cadburys and Bassetts; also Johnson & Johnson, who "own" loads of other brands, inc Neutrogena, for example, which I thought was a European company. And it's very tricky when it comes to pharmaceuticals.

I bet most of the batteries you buy are either Ever Ready or Duracell, both US owned. I knew Duracell were, but I thought Ever Ready was a British company.

I'm hoping some enterprising soul produces a decent guide to how to boycott US stuff.

China (and lately the middle east, such as Harrods department store and Qatar) own most companies/brands. Marshall (iconic amp brand from London) are now owned a Chinese group.

Who the current owners are doesn't change their identity though. China did not come up with Marshall amps, Jim Marshall did.

Liverpool FC are currently owned by a group from Boston, doesn't alter the identity of Liverpool as an iconic UK sporting institution. They will sell on, as will all those current owners of whatever brand/company they recently purchased.

The electric battery is a European concept (Volta). And many companies produce batteries, among them Panasonic (made by the Japanese, the global leader in electronics, video game consoles etc.) who have long been on the market. The lithium-ion battery (rechargable used in hand held devices) use cobalt, production of which largely comes from the Congo, and was first commercialised by Sony (Japanese).

And similar to the battery, the fuel cell, used to generate power for space capsules (getting man from earth to the moon) and satellites, was invented by Francis Thomas Bacon, a Cambridge scientist.

While the Nazis launched the space age with their rockets (led by German engineer Wernher von Braun), the first of which the V2 rocket became the first object to travel into space, once in space it needed the fuel cell to then transport astronauts to their next destination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Thomas_Bacon

Treaclewell · 03/02/2025 09:18

I'm a bit puzzled as to why T is offering 51st state status to Canada. Surely Canada is bigger than any US state, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. I think it is physically bigger than the tiddly USA, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. Surely the Quebec people would have a robust opinion about it. But if it were done according to size or population, with several states, then T would easily be outvoted. Wouldn't he?

RobinEllacotStrike · 03/02/2025 09:21

Well I'm replying on my iPhone via an app I purchased via Apple so no.