Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

The legal route is to present yourself to a border official at a point of entry. This does not include the beach in Dover. How about you learn to read and take a look at the government website. Shouldn’t be hard. It’s the first paragraph.

I'm not Canadian, but am based in British Columbia. Last night my local liquor store was already pulling US alcohol from the shelves. Saw a photo in my neighbourhood group of one the local grocery stores starting to put up stickers and signs to highlight which products are made in Canada.

Even Suella Braverman had to concede that for most refugees there is no other route to claim asylum than to cross by small boat.

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-fails-to-explain-how-asylum-seekers-can-get-to-uk-safely-and-legally-12753780

The mad stuff about other countries in NATO not “paying their share” is daft rubbish, that only the hard of thinking come out with who are incapable of understanding the complexities of global politics, and think only in the narrow short term of money.

The US had maintained its status as a world superpower — and its dominance within NATO — precisely because it is financially the biggest player in NATO. This has allowed it to have a disproportionate say in how the West organises its global security (including much better terms for the US in operating military bases within other NATO countries). Financing and backing up other NATO countries has allowed America to be the superpower which survived the collapse of the USSR. It’s a quid pro quo: the reason the US is so powerful is that it can call disproportionately upon all the NATO allies (compare with China, for example, which is isolationist and doesn’t have a bunch of other allied nations to call upon). It has suited the US to call the shots in NATO. If other NATO partners were as equally invested, proportionately, they would have much greater sway over US and Western policy. Trump/Vance whinging about the EU and Canada not paying enough for NATO completely misunderstands that. The US will not remain a superpower for very long on its own.

In every way the MAGAs fail to understand how the global world works — not just in terms of trade, but also in terms of security. They seem to have a complete inability to see anyone else as any form of ally — they regard everyone else (apart from themselves) in hostile terms. No facts or common sense break through. On every thread on Canada on X there are absolute teams of posts just spouting nonsense about the Canadians allowing fentanyl and immigrants over the border (a made up nonsense that nobody anywhere thought until yesterday). No facts dissuade them — they just spout more rubbish (Trump will make us great again, we are subsidising Canada, immigrants are flooding in over the Canadian border, if Trudeau was a good neighbour he would not impose a retaliatory tariff and would stop the immigrants, and so on). Since when was a trade deficit a subsidy? Why is Trudeau imposing a tariff being a bad neighbour, but the fact that Trump has done it in the first place isn’t? Where is any evidence that millions of illegals or drugs are flooding in from Canada?

It’s all absolute piffle, giant piles of lying shite of the first order, but millions of Americans are absolutely lapping it up and lapping it up some more. Really worrying times for the world.

Then you go to the first safe country you can get to. You don’t need a visa to go to Gambia from Eritrea. Lovely country. I’ve been. Perfectly safe and they accept asylum claims from Eritreans

Yanbu but I was already planning on avoiding American goods and services for the next 4 years after Trump's disgusting comments about the air disaster victims, the minimisation / acceptance Musks transparent fascism and the attempted promotion of an antivaxxer conspiracy theorist to lead their health department. To name but a few and no doubt more to come.

I’ve thought it through quite well actually. Please see my prviis post about Eritreans. They have Visa free travel with other countries that are perfectly safe

Then I will get interested.

Until the Canadian Government admit to the atrocities committed against indigenous people, right up to current times, and come clean about the boarding school murders and prosecute all those implicit in the taking, murdering and hiding of children, I don't give a toss what tariffs are places on their country.

Unfortunately very little American products are now sold in the U.K. to boycott. Even brands like McDonald's are locally owned and they pay a licensing fee, but by boycotting you are hurting a British business far more than the McDonald's in USA. US imports to the U.K. are not consumer goods mostly, like planes, medicine, oil, parts etc.

What do we buy from the USA that we should boycott? Netflix? Amazon? All Disney films? Most films? McDonald's? KFC?

Our biggest US imports are: fuel, aeroplanes, medicines

It's not going to work unless you all start giving up your health, holidays and travel.

Tesla and X/Twitter seem like good boycotts to begin with
(Although admittedly most sane people left X ages ago and based on the way the drive on the roads most Teslas are driven by Andrew Tate types who probably love Musk even more now)

How about when it spreads to goods the UK produces?

Umm yeah they have. Many, many, many times. Official government document published online after giving a speech as such below. What happened was wrong wrong wrong, but you specifically say you want an apology and there was one. More than one. This also has absolutely nothing to do with the US applying tariffs.

I don’t agree with your point of pointing out something that Canada has done wrong in the past to somehow justify what is happening that has nothing to do with that wrong now. That’s a pretty shitty deflecting argument.

Maybe start with this one….

https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100015644/1571589171655

And just a question - since the British empire isn’t exactly lily white on these issues do you give a toss about tariffs that may be imposed on your own country?

Touched a nerve

Only that it was a shitty deflection. Otherwise I’m fine thank you. As I said the British Empire wasn’t perfect either so do you care about tariffs being applied into the UK then? It’s your same argument turned to you but instead of answering you decided to poke. Interesting response.

Even Pateley Bridge, Nidderdale in the North Yorkshire dales has one of these shops. It looked so odd there, tucked into the high street full of quaint little olde worlde establishments.

What do you think there remains to come clean about? Atrocities were indeed committed, have been acknowledged and apologized for and A LOT of work has gone into reconciliation with First Nations communities (and that work will be ongoing).

The UK government weren't murdering the stolen children of indigenous people on our own soil in a genocidal fashion right up until the 1990's though.
And everyone believes only the Germany government was evil.

Not deflecting - just reflecting on just how horrifically violent the Canadian government has been and how I therefore don't feel any empathy about the tariff situation.

Lunatics?

People should be prosecuted and imprisoned for murdering these children.

Most of the perpetrators are long dead (most of the deaths are believed to have occurred in the late 19th and early 20th century).

There have, though, been about 50 convictions from more recent abuses in those schools.

I can't think what I buy that's from the U.S., apart from having a phone and a computer and using Google etc. that come on those.

I've always boycotted Starbucks, Macdonald's, Coca Cola, etc. for ethical reasons anyway (as have most people in my immediate friends and family).

Admittedly I did once give in to DC whining for sweets from one of those new places in Oxford St, but when I pointed out that the U.S. sweets probably aren't vegetarian and don't have high food safetyvstandards, they agreed to pop to the newsagents instead!

I did watch Netflix when someone shared their subscription with us during lockdowns.

Maybe shoes?

Most of the horrors of the residential schools occurred before Canada became independent from the UK....