To think they call us Karen because they fear us

[InformEducateEntertain]

I absolutely hate the term Karen. It's pejorative and deeply unpleasant.

Middle aged women (of whom I am one and to whom the term is most generally applied) are bloody amazing. Putting us down for our don't give a f**k badass attitude and willingness to fight back strikes me as lazy categorisation.

I'd go as far to say that those who use it are scared by the knowledge that looking the menopause in the eye has given us the courage to have a voice at last.

AIBU?

You're missing the point. It is the fact it is a privileged woman weaponising her femaleness to unfairly get what she wants, whilst damaging others.

@InformEducateEntertain Middle aged women (of whom I am one and to whom the term is most generally applied) are bloody amazing.

Not from what I've seen on any of these boards.

Putting us down for our don't give a fk badass attitude and willingness to fight back strikes me as lazy categorisation.

That doesn't come across the way you think it comes across. To me, that just sounds as if you would be someone that would be difficult to work with.

Dick.

I believe Global Majority is gaining popularity.

The phrase "global majority" is a term that refers to people who are not white British or part of other white groups. It includes people from Black, Asian, mixed, and other ethnic groups. The term is often used as a shortened version of "people of the global majority".

BINGO! RELEASE THE BALLOONS!

This is also what I thought. It isn't a certain demographic, just an awkward anal pedantic person. I agree the term "Karen" is terrible, and should not ever be used; total misogyny. I would just call the person a pain in the arse; this applies to men, as well as women!

That has exactly the same meaning as BAME or people of colour that the pp objected to, in that it places all people who are not white in the same group. Trying to come up with ever new terms for this, just shows that, on occasion, it is actually a useful word.

I also think that is a daft term as when we are talking about policy in the UK. (insert whatever term @Leafy74 suggests) people are the minority, and that it why they experience racism, so it makes no sense to refer to them as the majority.

100% this

I would add spinster the most awful thing a woman could be at one time - older & not dependant on a man!!

I've definitely seen a woman click her fingers at a server! Some of the rudest customers I've had are women.

Your post shows a shocking (but predictable) lack of awareness about racial issues.

@PlantDoctor if you'd spent the summer finding that the group most likely to be rude to you were 50 something year old men what collective name would you be using here?

More than just generalised racism though - it is specifically used for a form of racism that is covered up by playing to specific tropes of femininity where white women demonstrate an entitlement or victimhood, usually against people of colour (including women of colour by the way) but could also be people of different class background.

Pretty closely linked to the concept of white womens tears. The repositioning of a struggle or conflict or trauma to centre the feelings of white women over the person of colour who might be actually affected.

Thats why you never really see women of colour called Karen - because it is grounded in a particular concept of racial privilege. And it has its own name because it is a very specific and distinct manifestation of entitled privilege that is not always obvious as racism and so needs specific calling out.

But as I said above, this has the same meaning of lumping all people who are not white, into the same category. And you told a pp to ' think again' when she said the term people of colour was not problematic and posted a quote saying it was problematic as it lumped all not white people together.

And yet here you are, now advocating for a term which lumps all not white people together.

Which just show how nonsensical it is to keep objecting to words that exist to convey a needed meaning, and so creating ever new words which have the exact same meaning.

As I also said above, global majority also makes no sense when talking about people who are experiencing racism as they are the minority in the country they live.

It's ageism + sexism + a fear of ageing, which is why women often use it. As a way of distancing themselves from the ageing process. ("Karens are them, not us. Or me.")

It’d be fine if there was a similar term for men & young women & young men.

I find myself being extra nice and subservient for fear as being seen as this stereotype.

What type of racist behaviour is being called out here?

Or here?

There is a similar term for men - ‘gammon’

The term Karen is used for younger women - see that woman who called the police on a black man in Central Park who was not middle aged but widely described as a Karen.

Gammon is often used to describe racist men actually

Language evolves, it’s ok to make mistakes but when someone tells you something is problematic or offensive you should adapt and not dig your heels in. Otherwise we’d still be using very offensive words that were common 20 years ago

It's really not. It's used as a description for any woman who dares speak up.

And 'boomer' is used as an ageist slur designed to shut old people down.

Neither are a good look.

Gammon is not a specific gender slur though @Namechangean

How many men do you know called Gammon?

I agree with you.
I'm not suggesting these. I've been told ro use them in diversity training.
As far as I can tell they all mean non-white.

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