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Mum and DH being horrid about getting more cats

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FloydWasACat · 01/02/2025 06:30

OK, so background is: DH became quadroplegic just under four years ago. I work p/t as we also have 2 children and even though he has carers in I still to do a lot.

Around 8 months ago we had to put our 16 year old cat to sleep. We have another one who is gentle and loving who is 9 and I have noticed that she just seems lonely now.

I told DH that I was thinking of getting another cat from a rescue centre, he went apeshit at me. I would be paying and doing everything and frankly, there is no joy in my life nowadays and both DC would be happy too.

I may have overstepped but Cat Protection League advertised about two 14 month old girls. I put myself forward for them. I genuinely will be the one paying and doing everything. I KNOW our cat will be fine with them otherwise I wouldn't have even considered it.

When I was at work yesterday my DH told my Mum what I was thinking of doing. I got the most abusive phone call from her telling I was 'fucking stupid and an idiot' and 'I forbid you to have them' etc. I am 48 yrs old and after what has happened to DH I just think what the hell, you only get one life and it's giving a loving home to animals in need if care.

AIBU??

Sorry, that was very long. Just feel a bit lonely right now. Thanks if you got through all of that

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AubernFable · 01/02/2025 14:42

You’re not being unreasonable but I think you should cut them both off and enjoy your life with DC and cats! You sound deeply unhappy and your DH sounds miserable, I wouldn’t be lifting a finger for a miserable man, quadriplegic or not. Also your mother’s opinion is irrelevant, you should tell them both to do one imo.

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 17:25

I really hope some people on this thread, recommending OP leave her quadraplegic husband and "enjoy her life" on no other evidence than he objects to more cats, are never in the the position he is. I say that as a fulltime carer, not the cared for person.

Of course he could have been a nightmare and the marriage on the rocks before this happened to him, but we don't know that, only what the OP has said.

LivelyMintViper · 01/02/2025 18:27

Op deals daily with the man nappies, with the perpetual smell, with dealing with ALL the detail of every day life without any support from him. She has DC to care for. She is the breadwinner. She has no husband to fill her needs. Only his to fill. Yet she doesn't complain . Only wanting to not be abused and have a couple of cats. Yet he feels it's ok to give her abuse. Does anyone really believe granted the abuse and his selfishness in refusing her a couple of cats to give her solace that were the situation reversed HE would be still there hanging on after 4 years? Well in his position I would grant her a herd of hippos if she wanted it.

thescandalwascontained · 01/02/2025 18:28

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 17:25

I really hope some people on this thread, recommending OP leave her quadraplegic husband and "enjoy her life" on no other evidence than he objects to more cats, are never in the the position he is. I say that as a fulltime carer, not the cared for person.

Of course he could have been a nightmare and the marriage on the rocks before this happened to him, but we don't know that, only what the OP has said.

It wasn't just about the cats.

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It's my lived experience. What's yours

OwlInTheOak · 01/02/2025 18:47

Is there reason he hasn't explained? My first thought was that maybe he's concerned about a new cat climbing on him? It must be very stressful knowing that he can't do anything to move things and having a mobile animal that he doesn't know to be predictable that could be a concern?
However your MIL needs to butt out, and your husband needs to talk about why, not just say no without giving a reason.

TammyJones · 01/02/2025 19:27

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 01/02/2025 06:48

it was only a matter of time until the LTB brigade arrived.

I appreciate that being a carer is difficult, but the contempt with which you speak about your DH is horrible.

“I have no joy in my life;he gets put into his room at 9:00” you clearly hate him and resent his disability. I don’t imagine that it’s a picnic for him either.

Have you all had any counselling since he became disabled? Because you would likely benefit from it from all sides.

In terms of a cat, while it’s understandable that you might want another cat, regardless of his status now, this is still your DH’s home as well and he still has as much of say as you do. You need to stop infantilising him, because he is still an equal part of your home, disability or not.

TBH bringing in a bonded pair is never going to be a good idea and it’s highly likely your quiet and gentle cat is going to end up being pushed out.

Introducing new cats into an already established cat’s home rarely goes well.

Agree totally with this.
Poor bloke.
When it comes to pets you've both got to be on board.

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 19:43

I've read all the OP's posts. Yes he needs to sort the situation with the house he was left a part share in out and her mother sounds appalling, but the sticking point she raised was the cats, which the OP wants and he doesn't.

I'm afraid the words "put in his room" sit very ill with me. Getting a care agency to do visits that allow for the time most adults go to bed is nigh impossible and he may as much a victim of this as she is. There are ways round this but there has to be the will to do so.

ForRealCat · 01/02/2025 19:56

You've been given some bloody awful advice on this thread OP, I am sorry.

I think you deserve your cats, but I think you need to park that for now. Not because you shouldn't have them, but because I think you need to sort out the situation with your husband first. No one, whatever their situation is entitled to abuse another. He sounds like an absolute cock, and I am appalled at the people on this thread who have said about "how tough he must have it", yeah sure, but that doesn't give him licence to treat you like his punch-bag, slave or carer forever more.

I think you need to tell him that you are his WIFE, not his servant, and unless he wants to treat you with some respect you will be speaking with a solicitor.

Genuinely, leave the bastard. Then get as many fucking cats, goldfish or bloody dingos as you like OP. Good luck to you

ForRealCat · 01/02/2025 19:58

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 17:25

I really hope some people on this thread, recommending OP leave her quadraplegic husband and "enjoy her life" on no other evidence than he objects to more cats, are never in the the position he is. I say that as a fulltime carer, not the cared for person.

Of course he could have been a nightmare and the marriage on the rocks before this happened to him, but we don't know that, only what the OP has said.

You can object to more cats in an adult way, or you can go "apeshit" at you partner. Its the apeshit part we object to. Not the not wanting to get a cat

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 20:01

ForRealCat · 01/02/2025 19:58

You can object to more cats in an adult way, or you can go "apeshit" at you partner. Its the apeshit part we object to. Not the not wanting to get a cat

Exactly how "apeshit" do you think a quadraplegic can go @ForRealCat ?
The most he could do was shout, he is physically incapable of anything else.

ForRealCat · 01/02/2025 20:05

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 20:01

Exactly how "apeshit" do you think a quadraplegic can go @ForRealCat ?
The most he could do was shout, he is physically incapable of anything else.

Its only shouting and verbal abuse? Oh that's fine then 🙄

Uricon2 · 01/02/2025 20:15

ForRealCat · 01/02/2025 20:05

Its only shouting and verbal abuse? Oh that's fine then 🙄

Not fine, but don't pretend that he really has any cards in the game here. You do understand what being quadraplegic means, don't you? OP can walk away at any point and he will undoubtedly end up in residential care as a result, for the rest of his life, because he would not be able to live at home safely.

But carry on, support the cats. If @FloydWasACat really wants to go for whatever reason, she should, of course, but I'd put cash money on you never having had someone you love utterly dependent on you @ForRealCat and experienced the very complex situation it creates.

Tanjamaltija · 01/02/2025 20:33

@Uricon2 Abuse is abuse, whichever way you look at it. The message is ''You have me to look after, you have to look after me... to hell with what you want [the cats] or what you need [time and solace]...''

KilkennyCats · 01/02/2025 20:39

XWKD · 01/02/2025 06:50

Given his disability, he might feel that he no longer has a say in anything, as there's nothing he can do. That must be dreadfully difficult.

This. Frankly, the way you speak about your husband is disturbing.
“He gets put into his room at 9pm and that’s it until the next day”.
Sounds like you’d give an animal more interaction and affection.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 20:46

Not spiteful or ignorant. Four years ago this man had control of his life, now he has virtually none. He relies on carers, and his day, including when he goes to bed, is dictated by the times they call. Just stop and imagine that for a second. And the whole way in which OP has couched this says to me that this isn’t the first time he’s been told to put up with something he doesn’t want. He probably feels emasculated and not in control of anything, and it sounds as though OP is adding to that. Just because he’s disabled doesn’t mean he doesn’t get a say.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 20:49

Tanjamaltija · 01/02/2025 20:33

@Uricon2 Abuse is abuse, whichever way you look at it. The message is ''You have me to look after, you have to look after me... to hell with what you want [the cats] or what you need [time and solace]...''

And you only have OP’s word for that.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 20:52

LivelyMintViper · 01/02/2025 18:47

It's my lived experience. What's yours

And mine. Some people here are commenting in total ignorance of what caring full time for someone actually means.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 20:55

Tryingtokeepgoing · 01/02/2025 12:20

Having lived with someone who was at times very frustrated by his conditions I know only too well that what he said wasn’t always what he meant, and I expect this is true here s well. They have a 14 year old placid cat, and the OP intends imposing an additional 2 young cats on the household when he has absolutely not control over his environment.

If we are going to talk about over reaching, most of this thread has interpreted ‘apeshit”, whatever that means, to be abusive. Again, I know people, my husband included, who would be driven to tears of frustration at times because of some of the limitations he faced, and that frustration would sometimes manifest itself in all sorts of ways. But it was never ‘aimed’ at me, even if I was in the vicinity. I got that.

But it’s clear that the whole cat thing is a diversion. There are far deeper issues to resolve. The OP is frustrated about being bounced into being a carer, with all the stress that brings. I know. I’ve been there. She didn’t ask for that life. Her husband is frustrated at the situation he finds himself in, and his complete lack of control over his life. He didn’t ask for that either The OP thinks cats will help her. But clearly not her husband. They both, separately and together, need counselling and far more support. The cats are a just a way of kicking the can down the road and avoiding the real issues.

Absolutely this.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 21:01

Tanjamaltija · 01/02/2025 10:05

How can your mother forbid you, a married woman, not living under her roof, from doing something; and why is she siding with your husband? There is already one cat in the house, and the husband has never said he doesn't want her. He is thinking that attention will be less on him, for sure. The children... what did they say?

He is thinking that attention will be less on him, for sure.

Possibly the cruellest and most ignorant post on the thread.

TheSilentSister · 01/02/2025 21:39

You are an angel. Get your cat's, make yourself and your kids happy.
Sorry but your Mum has no say, surely?
Your DH - well, he likes cats, it won't affect him other than you'll be happier.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 01/02/2025 21:44

What a tragic situation all around. Beyond awful for your husband whose life is so curtailed and who is so reliant on other. And terrible for you, with the loss of your expectations about your life together.

I do think the thing about the cats is a bit of a diversion. OP, what the relationship good before your husband became paraplegic. How did you navigate differences of opinions earlier in your relationship?

You mention he is not pleasant to be around. While that is understandable, it is also understandable that you do not want someone 'going apeshit' on you. Again, is it mostly ok and this particular issue has triggered him (pets are expensive, maybe his money worries are valid?). Or does he regularly lash out at you?

While anyone in this position would have difficult days, or times they are less than pleasant, it is also a choice to stay stuck in bitterness and to choose to deal with this by lashing out at the people near you. The first I could live with. The second, no.

FWIW I knew a woman whose husband had a stroke in his 30s. He was not as disabled after as your husband, but was in a care home. He was constantly pressuring her to let him come home, but he was vile to her. When I met her, it was 2 years after his stroke. Before this, I had always been judgmental of people who leave spouses in this situation. But after seeing how he treated her, I was not surprised when she left him. She also really wanted to be a mother, so was feeling time pressure.

While you are married it is still a partnership, regardless of physical abilities. But if there is no positives any more, if you do not enjoy each others company at all, and if the relationship is mostly composed of being shouted at, its ok to say you cant do it.

I hope you can both find some peace.

Edited to say - tell your mother to butt out. And that if she ever talks to you like that again, you will seriously consider how much you can allow her to be in your life.

Gettingbysomehow · 01/02/2025 21:47

MissRoseDurward · 01/02/2025 14:08

Your OH retires to bed at 9

He is put to bed at 9 as that is when the carers come. He doesn't have a choice.

Is he just left alone in his room until they come to get him up in the morning? Does he have access to technology that enables him to make calls, read, use the internet, watch tv or listen to music?

Bloody hell the OP is asking about cats. What damn business is it of yours to ask these very personal questions about his care? She is the one who does most of the work and im sure he isn't lying in there with no stimulation at all for hours on end.
Honestly some of the frankly disgraceful posts on here are unbelievable.

MereDintofPandiculation · 01/02/2025 22:14

LivelyMintViper · 01/02/2025 18:47

It's my lived experience. What's yours

It's my lived experience too, and I never used the term "nappy"