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A man called me stupid in front of my daughter

384 replies

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 13:50

As I was exiting the lift with my two-year-old in the pram, another pram went out ahead of us. Since I was backing out, I didn’t realize they were still near the elevator entrance, and I accidentally bumped into the woman with the other pram. I was looking at my phone while maneuvering, but I immediately apologized. However, her husband deliberately said, "She’s on her phone, she’s stupid." My little girl heard it and repeated, "Mum, are you stupid." I was absolutely fuming and really wanted to retaliate. I was so angry and told him that I already apologized and I think you're stupid and rude. I know I should have just ignored it but it really made me so angry.

OP posts:
Jumblebum · 31/01/2025 22:15

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 21:50

She acknowledged her mistake by apologising.

The man should have moved on.

Instead he escalated the situation by calling Op stupid.

And OP rightly responded.

At what point does the escalation stop. The man could have ignored the op's lapse, the op could have ignored the man's lapse.... Someone has to be the one to step out of the conflict. It doesn't make them weak or a pushover.

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:15

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:13

Nah, OP came to Mumsnet to crow about how she hit a woman with her pram when she was busy gawking at her phone, insulted the bloke who got annoyed with her for it, and then hoped everyone would join in for a big man-hating frenzy. Thankfully the majority of posters on here seem to disagree with her actions, and my faith in human nature has been restored.

She didn’t hit a woman with her pram 😂 why won’t you read the OP?

It seems I have to spell it out for you: OP was backing out. Meaning she went into the lift pram facing forward and didn’t turn it around. She was pulling (not pushing) the pram as she walked backwards. Her back bumped into the other woman’s back

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:16

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:13

Nah, OP came to Mumsnet to crow about how she hit a woman with her pram when she was busy gawking at her phone, insulted the bloke who got annoyed with her for it, and then hoped everyone would join in for a big man-hating frenzy. Thankfully the majority of posters on here seem to disagree with her actions, and my faith in human nature has been restored.

Also he is pulled her first - even kids know you don’t start things and if you do you expect someone else to finish them

I I don’t think the majority is players do agree with you actually. Too many like you haven’t even bothered to read the OP

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:17

nodramaplz · 31/01/2025 22:14

I'd be irritated if someone nudged me with a pram cause they were on a phone!

OP didn’t nudge anyone with a pram

InWalksBarberalla · 31/01/2025 22:19

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 21:34

Well feel free to educate me on what exactly I'm misunderstanding here.

  1. OP is too busy browsing social media (ahem, sorry, taking her urgent GP phonecall) to look where she's pushing her pram.
  2. OP hits a woman's legs. Prams are bloody heavy and this likely hurts.
  3. Woman's husband refers to the OP as just about the tamest word you can think of, privately, to his wife.
  4. OP overreacts, in front of her kid, calling him the same name back to his face, and then turns to Mumsnet to hope that everyone will crow with her about how well she did standing up to the terrible, abusive man.

Thankfully, given the results, most posters on here aren't brainless dolts.

With point 2 you are reading the OP wrong. You think the OP ran into a woman with the OPs pram. When in fact she bumped into the other woman who also had a pram (which presumably had the woman's child in it, or she could I guess be pushing around a dog or something in the pram).

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:20

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:11

Right so the definition of a bad parent is <checks notes> coming into MN to ask about a situation? Thats what makes him not a shit parent but makes the OP a bad parent?

Also - you’re on here. Why are you on here if you disagree with people starting posts?

I never claimed the man wasn't a bad parent. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the woman judging him for calling her names in front of her child, when she immedietely does the same thing right back. In front of her child. Not exactly quality parenting, is it?

Where did I say I disagree with her writing the post? I said the post clearly hasn't descended into the man hating frenzy OP was hoping for, although you're seemingly absolutely desperate for that to happen. I wonder why?

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:23

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 21:34

Well feel free to educate me on what exactly I'm misunderstanding here.

  1. OP is too busy browsing social media (ahem, sorry, taking her urgent GP phonecall) to look where she's pushing her pram.
  2. OP hits a woman's legs. Prams are bloody heavy and this likely hurts.
  3. Woman's husband refers to the OP as just about the tamest word you can think of, privately, to his wife.
  4. OP overreacts, in front of her kid, calling him the same name back to his face, and then turns to Mumsnet to hope that everyone will crow with her about how well she did standing up to the terrible, abusive man.

Thankfully, given the results, most posters on here aren't brainless dolts.

Just to be clear. I was coming out of the lift backwards and my back touch her wife. I didn't hit her with my pram. I didn't stepped on her toes or legs.

Ut

OP posts:
JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:24

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:20

I never claimed the man wasn't a bad parent. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the woman judging him for calling her names in front of her child, when she immedietely does the same thing right back. In front of her child. Not exactly quality parenting, is it?

Where did I say I disagree with her writing the post? I said the post clearly hasn't descended into the man hating frenzy OP was hoping for, although you're seemingly absolutely desperate for that to happen. I wonder why?

Edited

You seem to think “He hasn’t come on here to moan about it” is a reason as to why OP is worse than him. So posting on an anonymous forum is worse than insulting someone practically to their face?

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:24

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:13

Nah, OP came to Mumsnet to crow about how she hit a woman with her pram when she was busy gawking at her phone, insulted the bloke who got annoyed with her for it, and then hoped everyone would join in for a big man-hating frenzy. Thankfully the majority of posters on here seem to disagree with her actions, and my faith in human nature has been restored.

You really think someone ‘crowing’ would say ‘. I know I should have just ignored it’?

If the majority of people here have the same poor comprehension as you then I’m happy to be in the minority!

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:25

@PeppyGreenFinch these posters are real drama llamas and a bit thick aren’t they. BTW they have no right to get upset about this post, I’m addressing you and I declare this to be a private exchange so if they get upset they’re just butting in 😂

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:25

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:23

Just to be clear. I was coming out of the lift backwards and my back touch her wife. I didn't hit her with my pram. I didn't stepped on her toes or legs.

Ut

Don’t worry OP those of us with a modicum of intelligence understood what you meant from the off.

VoodooRajin · 31/01/2025 22:27

I'd be well pissed off if my dh did something like that

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:28

VoodooRajin · 31/01/2025 22:27

I'd be well pissed off if my dh did something like that

Same. Making snarky unnecessary comments to a woman with her child over bumping backs would turn me right off

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:29

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:24

You seem to think “He hasn’t come on here to moan about it” is a reason as to why OP is worse than him. So posting on an anonymous forum is worse than insulting someone practically to their face?

Again, no. It's hypocritical of OP to imply he's a bad person for using the word 'stupid' in front of her child, when she did exactly the same thing. He might be a bad person - but he's not the one on here trying to garner sympathy and paint OP in a bad light.

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:30

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:25

@PeppyGreenFinch these posters are real drama llamas and a bit thick aren’t they. BTW they have no right to get upset about this post, I’m addressing you and I declare this to be a private exchange so if they get upset they’re just butting in 😂

Hahaha! But this post is different because it’s man hating and therefore not allowed! 🤣

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:31

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:23

Just to be clear. I was coming out of the lift backwards and my back touch her wife. I didn't hit her with my pram. I didn't stepped on her toes or legs.

Ut

Uh-oh, you’re going to be accused of drip feeding again! 🤣

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:32

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:23

Just to be clear. I was coming out of the lift backwards and my back touch her wife. I didn't hit her with my pram. I didn't stepped on her toes or legs.

Ut

Thanks for confirming OP. Still not convinced you were in the right I'm afraid, but I appreciate the clarity.

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:34

Wordsmithery · 31/01/2025 14:05

You (rudely) didn't pay attention. He (rudely) called you stupid. No need for you to drop to his level by returning the insult. Sets a terrible example for your daughter. Not what you want to hear, I suspect.

I really felt awful after I utter those words. It's a lesson learnt for me. I was just so taken aback after hearing that when we are just literally next to each other. But yes I am learning from this experience and thank you for the advice.

OP posts:
PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:35

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:29

Again, no. It's hypocritical of OP to imply he's a bad person for using the word 'stupid' in front of her child, when she did exactly the same thing. He might be a bad person - but he's not the one on here trying to garner sympathy and paint OP in a bad light.

She’s not saying he’s a bad person for using the word stupid in front of her child, she’s annoyed because he called HER stupid, because, as she says ‘he intentionally wanted me to hear it’.

She did hear it, as did her 2yo, who then repeated, "Mum, are you stupid."

How you can defend this scrote of a man is beyond me.

PistachioPickle · 31/01/2025 22:35

Some people really love the sound of their own voice.

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:36

PistachioPickle · 31/01/2025 22:35

Some people really love the sound of their own voice.

Yep, this man had no reason to call OP stupid.

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:38

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:29

Again, no. It's hypocritical of OP to imply he's a bad person for using the word 'stupid' in front of her child, when she did exactly the same thing. He might be a bad person - but he's not the one on here trying to garner sympathy and paint OP in a bad light.

He could be somewhere else talking about it you will never know. It’s just odd that you are aggrieved that OP made a MN post. Why shouldn’t she?

Also it’s not hypocritical - he started the insult. So OP had two options - stand up for herself or say nothing. I’d certainly say something if anyone called me stupid in public, warranted or not. Never a need for adults to resort to petty insults.

Now that you (finally) know OP didn’t ram the woman’s legs with her ‘heavy pram’ do you feel differently? It was one back bumping into another. Has this never happened to you?

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:38

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:34

I really felt awful after I utter those words. It's a lesson learnt for me. I was just so taken aback after hearing that when we are just literally next to each other. But yes I am learning from this experience and thank you for the advice.

OP, you were absolutely fine. It’s good you’re teaching your daughter that women should stand up for yourself.

Don’t be taken in by some of the responses here, there are a lot of people posting in bad faith here who will always tell a woman she is in the wrong for standing up for herself.

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:38

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:32

Thanks for confirming OP. Still not convinced you were in the right I'm afraid, but I appreciate the clarity.

What do you mean confirming she put it in her OP 😂😂

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 22:39

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:32

Thanks for confirming OP. Still not convinced you were in the right I'm afraid, but I appreciate the clarity.

I am very much aware that I was in the wrong here. And I really learned from this experience. I was overtaken by my emotions at the heat of the moment and really should have handled it differently. But I still feel like he could have said it in a nicer way than just point blank "she's stupid". When he is literally right next to me and straight after I apologized.

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