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A man called me stupid in front of my daughter

384 replies

Springsunshine28 · 31/01/2025 13:50

As I was exiting the lift with my two-year-old in the pram, another pram went out ahead of us. Since I was backing out, I didn’t realize they were still near the elevator entrance, and I accidentally bumped into the woman with the other pram. I was looking at my phone while maneuvering, but I immediately apologized. However, her husband deliberately said, "She’s on her phone, she’s stupid." My little girl heard it and repeated, "Mum, are you stupid." I was absolutely fuming and really wanted to retaliate. I was so angry and told him that I already apologized and I think you're stupid and rude. I know I should have just ignored it but it really made me so angry.

OP posts:
PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 21:50

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:49

Ignore the man?
Move on with her life?
Acknowledge she was in the wrong?

She acknowledged her mistake by apologising.

The man should have moved on.

Instead he escalated the situation by calling Op stupid.

And OP rightly responded.

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:50

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:47

A half hearted "Oh sorry" doesn't mean anything

It's pretty clear OPbdoesnt even really think she did anything wrong

Apology was pointless

What do you expect to do when people make minor mistakes then? Turn back time? Burst into tears? Give them money? Smack themselves on the face?

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:51

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:48

Constantly going on about MRAs is basically MN speak for "you are a man pretending to be a woman and your opinion is invalid"

That's not remotely the same situation and you know it.

No I don’t know to. You’re saying that it’s ok to be rude about someone within earshot as long as you’re addressing someone else. Like I say, go out and try that in real life and see how far it gets you

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:53

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:49

Ignore the man?
Move on with her life?
Acknowledge she was in the wrong?

An apology IS acknowledging she’s in the wrong.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:55

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 21:49

I wonder how this thread would be going if the OP was a man and had bumped into a woman because he was on his phone.

Very differently

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:55
Bored Cabin Fever GIF

Me waiting for posters to realise OP didn’t ram anyone with her pram.

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:55

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:55

Very differently

Why do hate women? Woman hater!!

BeLilacSloth · 31/01/2025 21:55

Lifts can be really dangerous and you bumped in to a mother and baby as you were on your phone. Mans got a point.

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 21:56

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 21:39

  1. No she was on her phone to the GP
  2. Again she didn’t hit anyone with her buggy. Where are you getting legs from?!
  3. Its not private if its right next to you
  4. Yes OP didn’t take name calling lying down

So what do you think of the man calling someone stupid in front of his child - by YOUR standards he’s a terrible parent wouldn’t you agree?

She only claimed she was waiting for a very important GP call as a drip feed once posters started disagreeing with her en masse. Oldest tactic in the book. I can say that I'm waiting for a very important call from the Prime Minister, it doesn't make it true.

Still don't understand why you keep claiming she didn't hit the woman with her pram. She did.

It wasn't a conversation she was involved in, so yes, it was private. By your logic, the man would have had every right to start chipping in to her very important conversation with her (imaginary) GP, since that wasn't private either, right?

Usual nonsense double standards that the man can't insult OP in a private remark to his wife but it's perfectly acceptable for her to hurl insults directly at him. Only to a man hating loon, of course.

Maybe he is a shit parent. But he isn't the one running to Mumsnet to complain about how offended he is, is he?

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:00

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 21:56

She only claimed she was waiting for a very important GP call as a drip feed once posters started disagreeing with her en masse. Oldest tactic in the book. I can say that I'm waiting for a very important call from the Prime Minister, it doesn't make it true.

Still don't understand why you keep claiming she didn't hit the woman with her pram. She did.

It wasn't a conversation she was involved in, so yes, it was private. By your logic, the man would have had every right to start chipping in to her very important conversation with her (imaginary) GP, since that wasn't private either, right?

Usual nonsense double standards that the man can't insult OP in a private remark to his wife but it's perfectly acceptable for her to hurl insults directly at him. Only to a man hating loon, of course.

Maybe he is a shit parent. But he isn't the one running to Mumsnet to complain about how offended he is, is he?

Edited
  1. OP didn’t have to give details of why she had her phone in her hand.
  2. She didn’t. What makes you think she did. Do I need to spell it out for you?
  3. Well if the OP was talking about the man to her GP then yes it’s her business. It’s not a private conversation when you’re slagging off someone within earshot
  4. She responded to his initial insult.
Maybe he is a shit parent. What a hypocrite you are. You say about double standards yet You unequivocally criticised OP’s parenting for calling someone stupid but it’s only a ‘maybe’ when it comes to the dad
JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:03

@namechangetheworld i hope you’re very very sorry and are taking responsibility for your mistakes when misreading the OP. Imagine if we all just went around misreading OPs. Don’t bother saying sorry it isn’t good enough!

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:04

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 31/01/2025 21:55

Very differently

Yep.

“A “GP call” isn’t an excuse to assault someone”

”What were you thinking? Is this your first time with a pram? Are you always this much of a bad dad?”

”I’d have called the police.”

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:05

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:03

@namechangetheworld i hope you’re very very sorry and are taking responsibility for your mistakes when misreading the OP. Imagine if we all just went around misreading OPs. Don’t bother saying sorry it isn’t good enough!

Don’t bother saying sorry it isn’t good enough!

Jesus wept, are you feeling OK?

OP hit a woman with her pram. Show me where it says otherwise.

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:08

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 21:56

She only claimed she was waiting for a very important GP call as a drip feed once posters started disagreeing with her en masse. Oldest tactic in the book. I can say that I'm waiting for a very important call from the Prime Minister, it doesn't make it true.

Still don't understand why you keep claiming she didn't hit the woman with her pram. She did.

It wasn't a conversation she was involved in, so yes, it was private. By your logic, the man would have had every right to start chipping in to her very important conversation with her (imaginary) GP, since that wasn't private either, right?

Usual nonsense double standards that the man can't insult OP in a private remark to his wife but it's perfectly acceptable for her to hurl insults directly at him. Only to a man hating loon, of course.

Maybe he is a shit parent. But he isn't the one running to Mumsnet to complain about how offended he is, is he?

Edited
  1. As I said, if you don’t believe the OP, why even comment on the thread? What a waste of time.
  2. You keep saying rammed when she hasn’t said this at all.
  3. I doubt you would be so nonchalant if someone insulted you in your hearing. So someone could swear at you and as long as they were talking about you, not AT you, you’d be fine with? Sure 😂
  4. See no 3 😂

OP hasn’t come on Mumsnet to complain, she’s asking if she was BU to call him stupid. And I for one think she wasn’t at all!

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:09

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:00

  1. OP didn’t have to give details of why she had her phone in her hand.
  2. She didn’t. What makes you think she did. Do I need to spell it out for you?
  3. Well if the OP was talking about the man to her GP then yes it’s her business. It’s not a private conversation when you’re slagging off someone within earshot
  4. She responded to his initial insult.
Maybe he is a shit parent. What a hypocrite you are. You say about double standards yet You unequivocally criticised OP’s parenting for calling someone stupid but it’s only a ‘maybe’ when it comes to the dad

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word hypocritical. The OP made a big show of pointing out that the man referred to her as stupid (in a private conversation) in front of her daughter, implying he's a terrible person for doing so and she's somehow above such behaviour ... before immediately throwing the insult right back at him. In front of her daughter.

Again, the man might be the worst parent in the world, but he's not on here complaining about the OP's behaviour, is he?

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:09

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:05

Don’t bother saying sorry it isn’t good enough!

Jesus wept, are you feeling OK?

OP hit a woman with her pram. Show me where it says otherwise.

It’s a joke based on stuff you’ve said.

She. Didn’t. Hit. Her. With. A. Pram.

Read the OP again. Slowly. And point out where she states she hit her with a pram

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:11

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:04

Yep.

“A “GP call” isn’t an excuse to assault someone”

”What were you thinking? Is this your first time with a pram? Are you always this much of a bad dad?”

”I’d have called the police.”

Assault 😂

So the next time someone bumps into me, should I sue them for GBH?

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:11

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:09

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word hypocritical. The OP made a big show of pointing out that the man referred to her as stupid (in a private conversation) in front of her daughter, implying he's a terrible person for doing so and she's somehow above such behaviour ... before immediately throwing the insult right back at him. In front of her daughter.

Again, the man might be the worst parent in the world, but he's not on here complaining about the OP's behaviour, is he?

Edited

Right so the definition of a bad parent is <checks notes> coming into MN to ask about a situation? Thats what makes him not a shit parent but makes the OP a bad parent?

Also - you’re on here. Why are you on here if you disagree with people starting posts?

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:12

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:11

Assault 😂

So the next time someone bumps into me, should I sue them for GBH?

TBF @Kibble29 isnt saying that she’s making fun of potential responses

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:13

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:11

Assault 😂

So the next time someone bumps into me, should I sue them for GBH?

Did you read the context of the post? That is how this would go if the OP was a man who bumped into a woman.

Followed by 18 pages of people quoting definitions of assault and how you don’t need to be physically injured to be a victim.

namechangetheworld · 31/01/2025 22:13

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:08

  1. As I said, if you don’t believe the OP, why even comment on the thread? What a waste of time.
  2. You keep saying rammed when she hasn’t said this at all.
  3. I doubt you would be so nonchalant if someone insulted you in your hearing. So someone could swear at you and as long as they were talking about you, not AT you, you’d be fine with? Sure 😂
  4. See no 3 😂

OP hasn’t come on Mumsnet to complain, she’s asking if she was BU to call him stupid. And I for one think she wasn’t at all!

Nah, OP came to Mumsnet to crow about how she hit a woman with her pram when she was busy gawking at her phone, insulted the bloke who got annoyed with her for it, and then hoped everyone would join in for a big man-hating frenzy. Thankfully the majority of posters on here seem to disagree with her actions, and my faith in human nature has been restored.

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:14

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:12

TBF @Kibble29 isnt saying that she’s making fun of potential responses

Exactly this.

nodramaplz · 31/01/2025 22:14

I'd be irritated if someone nudged me with a pram cause they were on a phone!

JandamiHash · 31/01/2025 22:14

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:13

Did you read the context of the post? That is how this would go if the OP was a man who bumped into a woman.

Followed by 18 pages of people quoting definitions of assault and how you don’t need to be physically injured to be a victim.

TBF you’d also get people fawning over him. I think people just like to stick the boot into OPs sometimes

PeppyGreenFinch · 31/01/2025 22:14

Kibble29 · 31/01/2025 22:14

Exactly this.

Sorry! I missed the quotation marks!

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