To be really glad I don't live in America right now

[AnonymousBleep]

I really feel for ordinary Americans. It's bad enough on this side of the Channel, hearing daily about Trump's latest petty, spiteful, idiotic bullshit - that rant against the Bishop who asked him to have mercy on immigrants, the ridiculous and insulting attempt to blame 'diversity' for the plane crash - but living under it must be so much worse. And heaven help you if you're LGBT or a woman. Or an immigrant. Or not white. Or poor. Or anyone else Trump and his freakshow of a government despises. I moan about the UK all the time, like everyone else who lives here, because god knows it's far from perfect, but at least we don't have a government in charge who is trying to strip huge swathes of the population of their rights and citizenship.

Trump has had every possible view on abortion so who the fuck www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146601

That is because the US is a center right country. Hard for a lot of MNers to grasp.

And where were you when you saw Trump leading them into battle?

In another decade people will be 'remembering' that he was in a tank and fired on the capitol building as part of an attempted coup.

They will 'remember' Elon Musk leading 1000s of black uniformed Gestapo marching with their right arms up.

Because stories grow with the retelling.

Both women and transmen face the same sexism under trans ideology.

Trans is a sexist ideology. It tells women we must accept that male bodied people are more oppressed than we are. It tells us we can have no boundaries around male bodied people based simply on their declaration that they are women.

It tells gender non conforming women who, from statistics obtained in UK, tend to be gay or otherwise having faced trauma such as SA that their issues are solved by radical surgery and that they must really be male, whilst no one ever treats them as such. Sexism means that whilst they can be 'legally male' the rules of primogeniture mean that they won't inherit ahead of their later born male sibling . No one really believes they are male. That's why we've never seen a trans man win 'man of the year' or the oscars or anything else.

If you were concerned about women you would recognise that a bad person can do the right thing for the wrong reason and that women are better off with single sex spaces and sports.

I take your point on the other minorities (with the exception of the fact that I believe that transgenderism is by nature homophobic for reasons I stated in my last post), perhaps if the democrats had been interested in women rights, further than in how they benefit males, then the other minorities would not be exposed to this kind of risk.

Edited to add, what is it about my language that you find offensive? Is it telling the truth about the sex of trans women?

You made the assumption that anyone who disagrees with you on this is a reform supporter including accusing me of it just for pointing out some of the good things he's doing

@AnonymousBleep 'but identity politics has ruined feminism IMHO by turning it into this one single issue'

How can you be a feminist if you can't define what a woman actually is? It's a rather fundamental 'single issue' that you appear to think has 'ruined feminism'.

I'm a natural centre right voter. And, frankly, I'd've voted Labour apart from this glaring issue, the total abrogation of hard won female rights for the sake of a few fetishistic men. Instead, for the first time ever, I spoiled my ballot.

And, whether you like it or not, Labour's refusal to sort this nonsense out, its refusal to acknowledge our immigration is utterly unsustainable IS driving people to the Right.

Trump actually won the popular vote, remember, and, fashionable though it is, if not actually mandated, to say LQBTQ, his EO regarding sex not gender is aimed at the TQ infiltrate, not LGB.

If the election were run again tomorrow, I suspect Reform would do very well.

@LoyalMember - having a narcissistic buffoon as their President? I mean I could call him a lot worse.

It affects all of us

If the US was a centre right country, Mitt Romney would be president.

Funny old question, but if the USA is so very terrible, why are hundreds of thousands risking their lives to get in every year?

Trump is the response of an electorate that felt the country had turned too far to the left.

Mitt Romney was a lackluster politician whom Obama ran rings around while campaigning. There was also a contingent of voters on both sides who didn't like the idea of a Mormon president.

From the reports the people who voted for him sound happy

Indeed. Same as this "racist" "Far Right" country of ours 🇬🇧, why's everyone so keen to come to such an awful, unwelcoming place?

Another thing, were things really going so well under the Biden/Harris administration that they deserved another turn? It seems to have been an utter shit show, with a POTUS who didn't know what day of the week it was and a VPOTUS who could barely string a sentence together. Who was actually in charge?

The US is always a very terrible, horrible, no good place to be according to most MNers. The vast majority here know nothing about it, but there a few experts who spent a week at Disney once.

I'm American, and the US that I read about on here shows no resemblance to the real US. But MNers don't want to hear that.

I love your country. I’d move there if I could 😊

Well said. This is why many centrists are voting for figures like Trump and Farage as they’re sick of the endless mockery or shunning of facts because it doesn’t fit a narrative. Both sides as bad as each other when it comes to hysteria, mockery and ignorance.

Twitter is used by many and often quoted in news articles. To pretend it’s not a very popular opinion outlet and news site is madness.

I know quite a lot of centre right voters. They did not vote for Trump.

they’re sick of the endless mockery or shunning of facts because it doesn’t fit a narrative

That's quite some projection.

Please name the protections that are for women that he's removed.
I ask because he's been busy reinstating them

Well he did appoint the judges who were instrumental in overturning Roe vs. Wade.
So that dud happen.
Because it wasn't codified under Biden. Simple

Gender Critical feminists - also called sex realist feminists. That is, feminists who think women are entitled to women only (based on sex) spaces and services and sports, and that these represent women's basic human rights to dignity, safety and equity.

In hindsight it probably was.

You can’t have a decent conversation if you’re not on ‘the team’ nowadays. Dare you ask for facts or evidence…

I'm personally very glad we have checks and balances here and that one maniac can't start deciding stuff like 'life begins at conception'

The life of an individual very clearly does begin at conception. That's just a fact.

Different people have different views on at what stage we as a society should should value that life - just as different people have different views on the value of the life of non-human animals. And and often quite arbitrary different views on the lives of different species, such as valuing dogs and pigs differently. But just as the pig is 'a life' regardless of the value you place on that life, so a life beings at conception - regardless of the value one places on that life.

The life of an individual very clearly does begin at conception. That's just a fact.

Yes that's an odd take in pp, life does start then. Legally there are different takes and views of course