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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 13:29

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 12:58

American here. It's only been 6 days. He's serious about Greenland for strategic reasons. Eastern Canada will do if we can't get Greenland, but we'll get Greenland, probably as a territory. Greenland's leadership has already signaled that they are open to it. Denmark can sputter and gasp and issue sternly worded letters all it wants. It has to do with building an "iron dome" type of missile defense system over the US, which is in the planning stages.

As for the UK, no we don't want you. We're trying to reduce our commitments to Europe, not increase them. Europeans have never played well in the sandbox together and the vast majority of Americans are beyond tired of being pulled into your conflicts. Just no.

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

Mrsbloggz · 27/01/2025 13:30

🤣
OP, you are talking 💩

PandoraSox · 27/01/2025 13:30

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 27/01/2025 13:27

Is it the guns people you know want?
Or abortion?
Or is it something else?

Edited

Having to sell your house if you get cancer?
School shootings?
Opioid crisis?

TheNuthatch · 27/01/2025 13:32

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 12:35

Of all the fucking ridiculous posts I’ve ever seen here - and there have been many - this beats the lot.

This with bells on!
MN is officially Trump drunk

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2025 13:32

I am surprised that so many UK citizens don't know that the UK is a constitutional monarchy, where the head of state is the King not a a President!

I wouldn't be. Was talking to a neighbour not long ago and she was referring to Starmer as the President.

SerafinasGoose · 27/01/2025 13:32

Oh. Another one of 'those' threads.

How transparent. How tedious.

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 13:34

It's not that crazy a projection.

And I imagine many who are ridiculing the suggestion and also proponents for open borders. Which tells us everything about how seriously they need to be taken

Wavesandtrees · 27/01/2025 13:34

Wouldn't step foot in the place again, let alone join them. Can't believe they voted him in, again! Can't believe they aren't embarrassed by it. Can't believe they are still unable to spot the hypocrisy and irony in every word and can't believe they aren't all absolutely terrified of what his (even more terrifying) puppet master has planned next.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 13:34

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2025 13:32

I am surprised that so many UK citizens don't know that the UK is a constitutional monarchy, where the head of state is the King not a a President!

I wouldn't be. Was talking to a neighbour not long ago and she was referring to Starmer as the President.

😂yes, actually, good point!

MargaretThursday · 27/01/2025 13:34

It's funny, because I know infinitely more Americans who would like to move pretty much anywhere that Trump isn't, than people in the UK who think he's anything but a dangerous prat.

dannyufcfan · 27/01/2025 13:35

You can't be serious.

Herewegoagain29 · 27/01/2025 13:36

They wouldn't bother because they already own Britain:

Within the last month in Britain, there have been several high-profile company takeovers by US businesses. Perhaps the most striking was the purchase of the iconic BT Tower in London by a US hotel chain which will convert the building into a luxury hotel. Nine days later it was announced that GXO of Connecticut will buy Wincanton, the haulier established in 1925 and employing 20,000 staff....

These takeovers may sound exceptional, but they actually fit neatly into the pattern of the last decade during which great chunks of the British economy have been transferred to new American owners. Just a few of the more notable recent US purchases were G4S, Sky, Meggitt, Ultra and Hotel Chocolat. This wave of takeovers has also led to the rapid decline of the UK’s London Stock Exchange, whose biggest 350 companies are now, in total, worth less than Microsoft...

Steadily the US has taken ownership of thousands of businesses and brands in Britain, including high street shops and manufacturers. If the pace of takeovers ever slackens it is probably because there is little left to acquire and most of the remaining companies are in unprofitable sectors. Taken together, the US multinationals now have annual UK sales of over $700bn, equivalent on a per-household basis to an average of about £20,000 for each UK family.

.Americans are buying up Britain from right under our noses. Here's why

American bidders bought businesses worth $15.2 billion from British public markets in 2024

US takeovers of UK companies almost double

American bidders bought businesses worth $15.2 billion from British public markets in 2024

https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/us-takeovers-of-uk-companies-almost-double-l5gw96glp#:~:text=UK%20stocks%20attracting%20bids%20from,the%20US%20private%20equity%20firm.

ttcat37 · 27/01/2025 13:36

“on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole”

Are you British/ living in the UK? I don’t know a single person here who doesn’t think Trump is ridiculous and makes a mockery of politics. Not that ‘politics’ needs any help with that. But Trump is a laughing stock here.

bestcatlife · 27/01/2025 13:36

🤣🤣🤣 No.

Sunbeam01 · 27/01/2025 13:36

What a ridiculous thread 🙄

CeceliaImrie · 27/01/2025 13:37

Don't be absurd.

Panama2 · 27/01/2025 13:37

Nicelynicelyjohnson · 27/01/2025 12:33

I'm up for it. But only if they build a bridge.

Or a tunnel 😂

TheTecknician · 27/01/2025 13:38

Over my dead body. I want nothing to do with the USA, if I can avoid it.

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 13:39

It would be much better for this country than letting the shower of shit establishment that we have here run the country. Hurtling faster towards the inevitable 3rd world status.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 13:40

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

The U.K. and rest of NATO need US funding more than the reverse

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 13:40

I think there will be many British people that don't know who he is.

Youngheartsalittletogetherness · 27/01/2025 13:41

Reminds me of the scarecrow in the wizard of Oz ...if only I had a brain.

bumblingbovine49 · 27/01/2025 13:41

trivialMorning · 27/01/2025 13:25

I saw an analysts talking about 1920/20 American firsters - she said they were doing half court tennis.

So essentially they were USA is doing this - and forgetting the rest of the world can and will react to what they do -which could then rebound back on USA and they weren't considering this.

I've seen some push back from Canadian politicians in speeches - talk about getting job back from USA and sounding more aggressive to USA. Greenland wants independent it doesn't want another overlord. Vietnam saw USA as yet another invader and while everything said they couldn't kick them out - they did.

I certainly hope so. I didn't say Trump would actually end up doing this, I fervently hope it is all just empty rhetoric, just that he is serious at the moment about it. He is often serious about things but just doesn't think them through and then can't actually deliver (Border walls anyone?).

The week article - How much wall did Trump build?
At a May 2023 CNN town hall, former President Donald Trump claimed that his administration finished building a wall along the 1,954-mile border separating the U.S. and Mexico. But according to a Customs and Border Protection report written two days after Trump left office in 2021, about 458 miles of the wall were completed under his administration, with another 280 miles identified for construction but never finished. Of those 458 miles, just 52 covered sections of the border that hadn't previously had a barrier. The other 406 replaced shorter barriers that already existed with a fence made of reinforced hollow steel bollards ranging from 18 to 33 feet high.

He will however, somehow make it look like his idea if he can't do it in the end. How people can think Trump did what he promised in his first term is beyond me!.

I don't even agree with his policies and am happy that he couldn't deliver on a lot of it, but honestly people really think he is going to be more effective ? I wish it was all just bluster and hot air but although a lot is, some of it quite dangerous

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/CBP-Border-Wall-Status-Paper_as-of-01222021-FINAL-003.pdf

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 13:41

Adamante · 27/01/2025 12:45

You’d be surprised. We are a convenient little airfield, strategically placed to ease entrance into Europe, the ME and Asia if required. They certainly wouldn’t want for example China getting hold of us…

Putin would get you first. Do you really think Trump cares if Putin has you? No, he doesn't. Maybe you need to provide for your own defense so nobody takes you over? Just a crazy thought.

RedToothBrush · 27/01/2025 13:41

We can't be part of Europe because of all the foreign leaders who might do something nasty.

But we absoluetely should join the USA, full of its guns and drugs.

Yeah, can't see it going down too well as an idea here somehow.