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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 18:05

PandoraSox · 27/01/2025 18:04

What happens to people who are uninsured?

Who cares ?

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 18:06

bombastix · 27/01/2025 17:56

@EasternStandard I never had you down as so sensitive

I'm not fear not. It made me laugh, in a you what now way. Eg you see someone squaring up with tough talk.. that kind of thing.

YankSplaining · 27/01/2025 18:07

(points to username)

No offense, but even though we have a lot of common history and love most of your pop culture, I don’t think we want you as part of the US. You’re fine doing your own thing across “the pond.”

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 18:10

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 27/01/2025 17:51

It continues to astound me that Americans continue this false narrative that their healthcare system is so wonderful because they don’t want a ‘socialist’ system (UK, Canada etc).

Sure your insurance in the US has to pay but the kind of insurance you have and how much you pay are dependant on your individual wealth (or company healthcare scheme). Poor Americans receive exceptionally poor care because they can’t pay for it or afford it (despite a drive to make this better with Medicaid or whatever Obamacare is being called now).

You give an example so I’ll give one too. American citizen from birth - motorcycle fell over on them - stationary so not riding. Femur break and surgery needed. Cost? 180,000 dollars. Let that sink in 180,000 dollars.Insurance paid 100,000 ONLY. Friend in their early 20’s now lumped with a 80,000 bill. These things do happen. Canadian cost - zero. UK cost - zero.

Your system isn’t better and ours isn’t socialist. I can easily choose my doctor. When my father needed complex surgery he was given the choice of five hospitals and dates for each. Sure in super rural parts of Canada there is much much less choice but that’s geography not socialism.

I'm in the UK. I was responding to the poster who was extolling the US health insurance system and sneering at the publicly funded NHS in the UK.

PifandHercule · 27/01/2025 18:11

BallerinaRadio · 27/01/2025 12:24

Of all the stupid posts I've seen on here lately... This is definitely the stupidest.

Even more so if it's actually genuine and not a wind up.

This!

LuluBlakey1 · 27/01/2025 18:11

derxa · 27/01/2025 15:44

Not really very funny. DH has just cancelled his subscription to this lame rag.

😂😂

Purplebunnie · 27/01/2025 18:13

Usernamenope · 27/01/2025 15:08

Honestly, I think these posts are just paid trolls from the US. I can't take them seriously.

The next one will be 'Trump should be crowned King' or 'Give Musk a knighthood'. They exist to plant these mad ideas in public forums

I think it's bots from further afield. Look at how some of these exchanges are going.

PandoraSox · 27/01/2025 18:14

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 18:05

Who cares ?

Even the insured have issues:

To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?
MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:16

PandoraSox · 27/01/2025 18:04

What happens to people who are uninsured?

It depends on their circumstances. If they're low income, they can apply for Medicaid, which will cover medical expenses retroactively for a time. If they don't qualify for Medicaid and genuinely can't pay, the hospital may write it off as charity care, which non-profit hospitals are required to do. Or they may owe the balance.

92% of the population has either private insurance or government provided insurance. The other 8% is a problem. The Affordable Care Act coverage offers heavily subsidized private coverage based on income, but it's not retroactive. People can't be forced to obtain coverage.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html

Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2023

This report presents data on health insurance coverage in the United States in 2023 based on information collected in the 2024 CPS ASEC.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html

izimbra · 27/01/2025 18:18

Idontgiveashitanymore · 27/01/2025 15:27

He’d at least sort out the migrant crisis because no one in the Uk has the balls to do anything about it

How do you suggest anyone sort out the migrant crisis?

Only around 5% of immigrants every year are 'undocumented'. The rest come with a visa. Ie, they're invited. A fair percentage of 'undocumented' immigrants get granted refugee status. The majority of the rest get deported (or that's where we're headed now we have a government in place who's addressing the issue).

What do you suggest the UK does? `Lets people drown in the channel? Stops hearing asylum claims?

By the way when a right wing person says 'no one has the balls to do anything about it', or 'doesn't have the courage to make a hard decision', they're usually referring to someone doing something cruel that breaches another person's human rights. Trump would be that person to do that, because he's basically completely amoral.He has no conscience. There's usually a nasty price that a country pays for putting someone like that in power.

bombastix · 27/01/2025 18:23

@EasternStandard - your engagement is showing. UK citizens calling for Trump to take us over is ridiculous. They are melts!

NautilusLionfish · 27/01/2025 18:25

I'll play.

So will we be a republic or can we convince them to be a kingdom? If kingdom, King Trump the First, the one and only. Or King Charles III with seconded King Harry the first? Harry is already there so that would be seamless.
Or perhaps we can join Russia. Or Equatorial Guinea. The despots are many. Or even Rwanda. We've already given them lots of free money (thanks Tories).

Op, whatever you are smoking, snorting, drinking, injecting. I want the same

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 18:26

bombastix · 27/01/2025 18:23

@EasternStandard - your engagement is showing. UK citizens calling for Trump to take us over is ridiculous. They are melts!

My what now? No idea what the first line is meant to mean

I haven't taken the thread seriously. It's bumpf on a chat site not policy

bombastix · 27/01/2025 18:28

I don't know why we don't ask the Chinese. Their AI is cheaper. And they have socialised medicine

Satire alert

Needmilkandbread · 27/01/2025 18:29

I’d love it. It going to happen of course. But I’d be moving to a different state for sure!

MargaretThursday · 27/01/2025 18:31

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:16

It depends on their circumstances. If they're low income, they can apply for Medicaid, which will cover medical expenses retroactively for a time. If they don't qualify for Medicaid and genuinely can't pay, the hospital may write it off as charity care, which non-profit hospitals are required to do. Or they may owe the balance.

92% of the population has either private insurance or government provided insurance. The other 8% is a problem. The Affordable Care Act coverage offers heavily subsidized private coverage based on income, but it's not retroactive. People can't be forced to obtain coverage.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html

But you might fall in the middle: too poor to get insurance and too rich to qualify for Medicaid.

And end up like my friend did. She broke her ankle, and came too in hospital. Soon as they knew she couldn't pay they bandaged her ankle like you might do with a mild sprain, and sent her home telling her that if she walked on it before it was mended she'd probably be disabled for life.

Great system.

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:39

MargaretThursday · 27/01/2025 18:31

But you might fall in the middle: too poor to get insurance and too rich to qualify for Medicaid.

And end up like my friend did. She broke her ankle, and came too in hospital. Soon as they knew she couldn't pay they bandaged her ankle like you might do with a mild sprain, and sent her home telling her that if she walked on it before it was mended she'd probably be disabled for life.

Great system.

In that case, she would have qualified for subsidized coverage under the ACA.

https://www.valuepenguin.com/aca-subsidy-calculator#:~:text=Subsidies%20are%20calculated%20in%20two%20ways:%20*,insurance%2C%20no%20matter%20how%20much%20you%20earn.

Ezkay · 27/01/2025 18:41

Maybe time to up the medication, OP 🤦🏼‍♂️

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 18:42

You know Trump has abolished this?

pointythings · 27/01/2025 18:45

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:16

It depends on their circumstances. If they're low income, they can apply for Medicaid, which will cover medical expenses retroactively for a time. If they don't qualify for Medicaid and genuinely can't pay, the hospital may write it off as charity care, which non-profit hospitals are required to do. Or they may owe the balance.

92% of the population has either private insurance or government provided insurance. The other 8% is a problem. The Affordable Care Act coverage offers heavily subsidized private coverage based on income, but it's not retroactive. People can't be forced to obtain coverage.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html

I'm sorry, but how can you be OK with people 'owing the balance' when that balance can be hundreds of thousands of dollars, which will put them in irrecoverable debt? How can a system like that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world be anything but morally deeply dubious?

I'm not wedded to the NHS - I'm Dutch and the Netherlands has an insurance based system. The difference is that it doesn't leave people in catastrophic debt.

Nobody should have to rely on charity for something as essential as healthcare.

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:45

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 18:42

You know Trump has abolished this?

No. Can you provide a link showing that the ACA has been repealed or the subsidies eliminated?

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 18:51

tammy98 · 27/01/2025 17:52

What is wrong with benefit claimants. So if you lose your job for whatever reason, you can't claim benefits?

Why don't they have savings and a rainy day fund?

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:52

Eeeeeeeewwwwww!

Would never happen. Nobody wants that apart from weirdos like Darren Grimes.

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:53

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 18:51

Why don't they have savings and a rainy day fund?

Because life happens. Some people are excessively poor and do not earn enough to create extravagant savings funds.

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:54

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Anything is true when you lie.

You must be bored @CyanSeal