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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

Who has privatized water service?

The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

Mrsbloggz · 27/01/2025 15:01

anyolddinosaur · 27/01/2025 14:59

Anyone who thinks there is a lot of support for Trump here is deluded.

I agree, the problem is that the 'empty vessel' trump supporting types make a lot of noise!

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:01

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:45

Move to America if you want to be American. I would jump off the planet if America took over the UK. I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

It will never happen though. As I said, the British wouldn't let in happen. No-one in their right mind would want this to happen.

I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

Imagine saying that about any other nationality

IcedPurple · 27/01/2025 15:02

America is still the world's most powerful country and will be for the foreseeable future. However, it is a declining power which is increasingly struggling to impose its will on the rest of the world. The American empire reached its high water mark at the end of the Cold War, but is now in retreat.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 15:03

Misogynist much? I am a woman, a wife and a mother. And this forum is unique. We really don't have anything like it in the US. Reddit is a cesspool.

Not sure why pp were sure you were male, women can be retired from same job surely

You attracted some deleted comments on those lines

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:04

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

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No, not the UK. Scotland and Wales haven't

snowmichael · 27/01/2025 15:06

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

> I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole
Are you trolling, insane, drunk, or a US stooge?

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:07

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 14:56

@serendipityjane

Why would that make it an impossibility? Obviously a transition like that would require a new constitution, a codified one. Plenty of people were calling for one when Johnson prorogued parliament. I don't get your point

In order to join the US, you become a territory. You have to accept the US dollar and your constitution needs to be compatible with the US constitution.

Then you can petition to join and have the states vote on whether to accept you.

As I said - and I will guarantee none of the more dim posters here will have checked - this is all detailed in the US constitution itself. It actually lays out how to grow the union. It's how it went from 13 to 50 states.

I know facts are pretty unfashionable nowadays. But they are pretty much all I know.

As things stand the UK cannot "become a state". We would need to be a republic for starters. And that will take a good few decades.

Usernamenope · 27/01/2025 15:08

Mrsbloggz · 27/01/2025 15:01

I agree, the problem is that the 'empty vessel' trump supporting types make a lot of noise!

Honestly, I think these posts are just paid trolls from the US. I can't take them seriously.

The next one will be 'Trump should be crowned King' or 'Give Musk a knighthood'. They exist to plant these mad ideas in public forums

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 15:08

Sorry, there's no interest on this side of the pond. Your economy would be a drag on ours. We have enough problems as it is.

curious79 · 27/01/2025 15:08

The only startling thing about this utterly laugh out loud post is that 4% of people think YANBU

CheshireCat1 · 27/01/2025 15:08

No chance

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:10

Might be an idea for the serious minded folks to read this:

https://www.senate.gov/civics/resources/pdf/US_Constitution-Senate_Publication_103-21.pdf

When we become UK,US our children will need to learn it.

https://www.senate.gov/civics/resources/pdf/US_Constitution-Senate_Publication_103-21.pdf

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

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Most are municipally owned, there are some private ones but they are quasi entities as the fall under the utility space. Meaning they can make a profit but are governed by the state’s utilities commission that ultimately approves rates and how much profit they can make and service levels they need to meet.

it’s a bit hard to explain. For instance if a water utility wants to raise rates they have to petition for a rate hike. They then have to justify the plan to the regulatory body. So if it’s a rate hike so that shareholder get an extra big dividend it’s unlikely to pass. If it’s a rate hike to afford a new capital expenditure for new equipment or whatever it’s likely to pass. But they’ll have to put forth the business case.

The regulatory board is more or less neutral and is supposed to balance the needs of both the consumer and the utility. It mostly works out.

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:01

I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

Imagine saying that about any other nationality

I imagine people would say the same about being taken over by any country.

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:13

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

Nope we have roundabouts now. And even the fancy diverging diamonds!

SwordToFlamethrower · 27/01/2025 15:13

HAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHSHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

NO.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:14

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

Thank you for that. Do the people in the UK not drive cars? Why yes, yes they do, because they have insurance. Do they fear owning houses because they might burn down? No, they have insurance on them. Americans don't fear getting sick/injured because we have...wait for it...insurance!

Nobody has to sell their house if they get cancer. Nobody is dying in the street. FEDGOV has strict rules about what health insurance must provide. ALL health insurance policies in the US have out-of-pocket maximums. Hit the max and the insurance pays 100% of the rest. My friend has a complex cancer. His insurance has spent well over a million dollars on him with no end in sight. He has nurses in every day and gets 3 transfusions a week, all on his insurance. Another friend is on a very expensive medication for rheumatoid arthritis. Her insurance pays thousands of dollars for each shot. She pays nothing. Are there problems with American healthcare? Of course, but it's not the dystopian hellscape that MNers, most of whom have never been to the US, think. As we Americans would say, a bunch of y'all are "talkin' out yer asses."

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 15:14

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:12

I imagine people would say the same about being taken over by any country.

I agree. Countries tend to want rule themselves rather than be colonised.

BobbyBiscuits · 27/01/2025 15:15

No I don't think that. The USA has enough problems of its own with it's self proclaimed status as 'leader of the free world' lol to that.
Their president can barely read. He is a failed reality TV presenter.
I wouldn't think the UK would, collectively, wish to be part of another country with so many problems.
I guess Trump says he's buying Greenland and the population are delighted. So he probably thinks he's one step closer to owning our 'limey asses'. 🤣🤢

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:15

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

If becoming USAian meant Brits finally fucking learned to merge in turn, I could be persuaded.

(Still struggling to suppress the alliteration ..._)

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:17

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 15:14

I agree. Countries tend to want rule themselves rather than be colonised.

That isn't what Britain spent 2 centuries telling India, and Africa.

ilovesooty · 27/01/2025 15:19

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 14:43

I'd rather have an EU style social insurance system than the NHS

So would I.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:20

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:14

Thank you for that. Do the people in the UK not drive cars? Why yes, yes they do, because they have insurance. Do they fear owning houses because they might burn down? No, they have insurance on them. Americans don't fear getting sick/injured because we have...wait for it...insurance!

Nobody has to sell their house if they get cancer. Nobody is dying in the street. FEDGOV has strict rules about what health insurance must provide. ALL health insurance policies in the US have out-of-pocket maximums. Hit the max and the insurance pays 100% of the rest. My friend has a complex cancer. His insurance has spent well over a million dollars on him with no end in sight. He has nurses in every day and gets 3 transfusions a week, all on his insurance. Another friend is on a very expensive medication for rheumatoid arthritis. Her insurance pays thousands of dollars for each shot. She pays nothing. Are there problems with American healthcare? Of course, but it's not the dystopian hellscape that MNers, most of whom have never been to the US, think. As we Americans would say, a bunch of y'all are "talkin' out yer asses."

Why is this relevant, you have made it clear that the UK is not wanted anyway and gone out of your way to belittle its worth, so you are posting to what, shout about how great America is, we already have heard all that for months now.

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