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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:45

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:31

Sorry, I don't know if you know but we have left the EU (unfortunately) they don't tell us to do anything.

Ah so you accept we were being dictated to, yet you want to re-join. Proved my point regarding the hypocrisy of pp effectively saying 'we don't want to be bossed around' whilst simultaneously advocating for readmission to the EU. It makes me laugh! Though we have left, it was with retained legislation. Funny how you completely ignored addressing the fact our economy grew after Brexit despite repeating parrot fashion the BBC spiel of economic collapse. I'm still yet to see it.

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:45

rewilded · 27/01/2025 14:34

I wouldn't mind the UK being the 51st state. Infact I would welcome it - where do I sign?

Move to America if you want to be American. I would jump off the planet if America took over the UK. I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

It will never happen though. As I said, the British wouldn't let in happen. No-one in their right mind would want this to happen.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:45

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 14:42

The gist of it that I remember was that it made economic sense and our laws are compatible

Utter bollocks.
We don't have a written constitution for a start which is a sine non qua

Well take it up with Economist… I didn’t write the fucking article

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:45

@Ddndka Not what this thread is about. But all insurance systems spend about 5% to 20% of their total expenditure on selling insurance, processing copays, and dealing with fraud. So our health costs would rise by a minimum of 5% over night, even with no change in our health budget. And the UK spends below the EU average on healthcare.

BunnyLake · 27/01/2025 14:46

I don’t know anyone who supports him. So will we start talking in American accents, have tax added on top of the price tag, have guns for sale in the middle aisle of Lidl and no socialised healthcare, no price regulated pharmaceuticals and probably no pavements (or should that be sidewalks?).

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:47

And all that would happen is what is happened to US dentistry. A small number of state funded places for healthcare. Some covered by insurance (you have dentistry insurance offered by most private dentists), and people who can afford neither having to pay for what they can afford.

The state of children's teeth in the UK has declined dramatically since NHS dentistry was ruined.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:48

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JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:48

I would also have thought the fairy tale that privatising services makes them better would have disappeared with the state of the privatised railways.

Renamed · 27/01/2025 14:49

There is not a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, most people think he’s deranged

Serpentstooth · 27/01/2025 14:51

Is MN so globally influential that it's worthy of such close attention from the Trump nutters? Mums, grannies, kids. Anyone might suppose they're emotionally over-invested.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:51

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:05

As for the UK, no we don't want you. We're trying to reduce our commitments to Europe, not increase them. Europeans have never played well in the sandbox together and the vast majority of Americans are beyond tired of being pulled into your conflicts. Just no.

So you think Trump is looking to dump his convenient, easily defended, Island airfield, which is the perfect re-supply point before his military hit mainland Europe, ME, Asia? Good to know.

Yes, absolutely. He ran on reducing military commitments, especially commitments to NATO. You vastly overestimate your military value to us. The US can project all the power it wants without the UK. NATO is a protectorate, not a true alliance, and the American people are beyond tired of protecting you.

I'm not trying to be goady, but I spent much of my career in strategic planning and I know what I'm talking about. The UK is not strategically important to the US.

MrsSunshine2b · 27/01/2025 14:51

You think there's a lot of UK support for Trump? You need better friends and associates.

Giggorata · 27/01/2025 14:52

No, Britain would retake the USA and it would resume its colonial status. (joking)

(and also haven't rtft so apologies if I am repeating.)

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:48

I would also have thought the fairy tale that privatising services makes them better would have disappeared with the state of the privatised railways.

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

travellinglighter · 27/01/2025 14:55

BobbiJo · 27/01/2025 12:27

Don't be silly.

But .
Compared to our "Leader", I'd take Trump any day ending in Y

(ETA- Compared to our "Leader" I'd take 3 toddlers in an overcoat..)

Edited

And That’s a how a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist and probable dementia patient in thrall to religious nutjobs, foreign powers and biliionaire tech bro’s gets elected.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:56

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

I think it's unlikely.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

Who has privatized water service?

Zebedee999 · 27/01/2025 14:56

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

OP seek help now, you have lost your marbles.

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 14:56

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:45

Well take it up with Economist… I didn’t write the fucking article

@serendipityjane

Why would that make it an impossibility? Obviously a transition like that would require a new constitution, a codified one. Plenty of people were calling for one when Johnson prorogued parliament. I don't get your point

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

I know! Its truly dreadful.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:58

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:34

Good news! As a retired American military officer I say with authority that your token deployments hindered more than helped, at least in Helmand. The chain of command was a cluster fuck

Why on earth is an American military officer posting on a British forum predominately for women and parents?! Is Reddit closed today?

Misogynist much? I am a woman, a wife and a mother. And this forum is unique. We really don't have anything like it in the US. Reddit is a cesspool.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:58

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

Who has privatized water service?

We all do in England.

skyana · 27/01/2025 14:59

Are you seriously daft? 🤣

anyolddinosaur · 27/01/2025 14:59

Anyone who thinks there is a lot of support for Trump here is deluded.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK is not strategically important to the US.
The average Brit, mumsnetter or not, does not want to hear this.

By the end of this term NATO will probably stand for North American Treaty Organization.

But apparently King Charles is going to pull an Empire out the back of the sofa, mount his trusty steed and lead a team of ladies to a beach.