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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:21

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:20

It means being dictated to by unelected foreign powers.

To you maybe not to many of us. Leaving the EU has resulted in Economic disaster.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/01/2025 14:22

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:28

Me too!

Then again I’d take Mr Bean over Starmer

Problem with your plan OP is this- you don’t like Starmer, you are presumably surrounded by people who don’t like Starmer but do like Trump. Due to this you think there’s a majority who hates Starmer but like Trump. But we still aren’t even a year on from the country rejecting the Tories for Labour, so most people clearly don’t agree with you on Starmer.

and remember the left in the US is closer to the Tories, the right we rejected, the right in the USA of Trump is very right wing compared to what the UK electorate has just picked.

unless we were invaded and occupied, I’d presume there’d need to be a vote. Even parking the sticking point of dumping the King/Royal Family, do you really think people who voted for Starmer’s Labour Party last summer would vote for Trump?

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:23

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.

Seriously. As an American who's lived nearly 30 years in the UK, the NHS still, with all its faults, is amazing! When you sign up for healthcare in the US, you sign your death warrant. BYOB (Bring your own burial ground).

Hotzenplotz · 27/01/2025 14:23

Eh?!

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:24

WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 13:29

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

Good news! As a retired American military officer I say with authority that your token deployments hindered more than helped, at least in Helmand. The chain of command was a cluster fuck.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/01/2025 14:25

Additional question @CyanSeal - would the whole of the UK be one state or would England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland be separate? How would the USA boarder between northern Island and the Republic of Ireland/the EU continue to be soft or would there need to be a hard boarder?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:26

WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 13:29

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

You send token forces, get in the way and then expect medals and ass-kissing afterward. My lived experience.

MaloryJones · 27/01/2025 14:26

Don't know whats worse
The OPs quite frankly ridiculous post and the "Are you on glue"? Its so old.

Fimofriend · 27/01/2025 14:27

Meanwhile, I just cancelled Netflix, told my family we will try to avoid buying products from the USA the next four years, and I have contacted Facebook friends to get their phone numbers and email adresses so that I can cut down on how much I use Facebook.

Mind you, I am Danish. The orange turd just threatened my country. An ally for more than seventy years. American and Danish soldiers have been brothers in arms on many occasions.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:27

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:21

To you maybe not to many of us. Leaving the EU has resulted in Economic disaster.

Well no, it is a fact that EU regulations and rules dictate what happens here. So you can't very well say we don't like being told what to do due to our island mentality when being a part of the EU means we do get told what to do.
Where is your example of economic disaster? Our economy was one of the fastest growing in Europe after Brexit.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:28

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

Discussion on US healthcare aside Starmer sounds keen (or desperate), but then he needs a lifeline on growth so can't be choosy

There's been enough coverage on a possible deal in the last few weeks

We'll see, generally US says jump and we say how high

Abhannmor · 27/01/2025 14:28

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 14:17

Have you seen the slums and ghettos of inner city UK?

Of course. I lived in Hackney and Tower Hamlets and Newham for decades. An earthly paradise compared to what I saw in many parts of the USA. Before you factor in Health , Education and Welfare.

whaddayawannado · 27/01/2025 14:29

The UK become part of the USA?

OVER MY DEAD BODY.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:29

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Fimofriend · 27/01/2025 14:30

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

Except for the little detail that even if you have insurance and your policy clearly states that your treatment is covered, the insurance company might deny the cover completely or until it is to late. That was why that CEO got shot.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:31

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:27

Well no, it is a fact that EU regulations and rules dictate what happens here. So you can't very well say we don't like being told what to do due to our island mentality when being a part of the EU means we do get told what to do.
Where is your example of economic disaster? Our economy was one of the fastest growing in Europe after Brexit.

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Sorry, I don't know if you know but we have left the EU (unfortunately) they don't tell us to do anything.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:32

Us citizens pay far more on healthcare than UK citizens do and nationwide have far worse health outcomes.

jeffgoldblum · 27/01/2025 14:32

@SerenityNowInsanityLater 🤭 😍

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 14:32

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 13:28

Well it goes both ways. We tend to surround ourselves with like minded individuals. I know a handful of liberal men in real life and they are effeminate losers.

The male Trump supporters I saw being interviewed at Trump rallies all looked like the products of hundreds of years of inbreeding.

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:32

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

Thanks for the laugh @CyanSeal 😂

As IF the British would allow this to happen?! 😆

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:32

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 13:59

It's ashame about the 'special relationship' though isn't it. I thought Trump would want the kind of SR that Reagan had with Thatcher.

Reagan and Thatcher had similar political views. The "special relationship" talk has always been just politics. American politicians only mention it when UK royals or politicians visit. When the French visit they bring up Lafayette.

SerafinasGoose · 27/01/2025 14:33

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:16

Yet many people still bitch about wanting to re-join the EU.

Yeah. As if the alternative we're now experiencing is working out so fantastically well. 😂

Fimofriend · 27/01/2025 14:33

They also have people dying from treatable diseases because they cannot afford the copay. They have cancer patients becoming homeless because they sold their home to pay the copay. They got patients with Alzheimer's being dumped in the street with a wheelchair and nothing else.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:34

jeffgoldblum · 27/01/2025 14:32

@SerenityNowInsanityLater 🤭 😍

Same from me. 🤩