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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

658 replies

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:08

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:06

Yet here you are getting worked up about and sneering at them 😁

Yes, I'm hoping MNHQ will take note and change the tone as the fascist vibe is all wrong!

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:09

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2025 13:15

LifeExperience · Today 12:58

...but we'll get Greenland, probably as a territory. Greenland's leadership has already signaled that they are open to it. Denmark can sputter

Absolute fucking mince on toast. The Greenland PM said they want independence from Denmark and certainly not to be reconolised by America.

Yes, they want independence from Denmark. We don't want their oil. They have a ban on drilling that would probably stay in place. We already have the most proven oil reserves in the world and are the world's largest oil producer and the largest natural gas producer.

What we want is their strategic location. The US already has several territories and they get a sweet deal--full citizenship without any taxes. A similar deal will likely be made with the Greenlanders.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 27/01/2025 14:09

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:05

As for the UK, no we don't want you. We're trying to reduce our commitments to Europe, not increase them. Europeans have never played well in the sandbox together and the vast majority of Americans are beyond tired of being pulled into your conflicts. Just no.

So you think Trump is looking to dump his convenient, easily defended, Island airfield, which is the perfect re-supply point before his military hit mainland Europe, ME, Asia? Good to know.

The same facilities are available on the Iberian Peninsula, with better weather.

The UK is not as exceptional as it thinks.

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 14:10

Adamante · 27/01/2025 12:54

Go and have a look if you’re interested 😊

Oh God, you're one of those. Refer to the changes that Trump has made that everyone would want over here and then refuse to tell people what they are. I know he promised to bring down grocery prices on day 1 but is now back-tracking and saying that it would be 'a very hard task'.

There's a lot of love for Trump on Mumsnet and Twitter and far right echo chambers right now but most normal people don't want an adjudicated sex offender and convicted criminal to be the leader of the UK.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:10

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:06

Yet here you are getting worked up about and sneering at them 😁

I note you didn't reply to my question about the far left Royalists!😂

pointythings · 27/01/2025 14:10

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:06

Can’t you read? I don’t have one! 😁

You said you meet a lot of people through work. So what makes you think other people don't do the same but see a very different picture? You're basically saying your personal experience is more statistically significant than anyone else's, and that if we disagree with you, we're in an echo chamber. Where is your evidence to support that contention?

Warmhandscoldheart · 27/01/2025 14:12
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PrimitivePerson · 27/01/2025 14:12

What on earth are you smoking?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:13

bumblingbovine49 · 27/01/2025 13:18

This completely true . The USA can't be considered an ally any more. I'd say it is a power on par with Russia and China in terms of how we need to consider their international aims. Europe is looking like it really needs to stick together, and obviously NATO contries as well.

Bingo! You're starting to get it. The US wants out of NATO.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:14

OP, I know you may be a bot or a troll.
But if you are real, get off the internet and mix with real people. The [problem with the internet is you can get into online worm holes where you can end up thinking that a very extreme view is widely shared.

There are Trump supporters in the UK, although less than I suspect Trump thinks there are. But even most of them do not want Britain to become ruled by the US. Most people want their own country to be ruled by their own Prime Ministers and Presidents.

I am also not sure you understand what the UK being ruled by the US would mean. It would certainly mean abolishing the Royal Family as Trump is the Head of State. It would mean many UK laws changing to comply with US Federal laws, and many of those would be vastly unpopular.

Your positions i an extremely minority view in the UK.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:15

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 13:20

I think this would be goods not people

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:15

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/01/2025 13:29

Not a chance that the country which voted for Brexit would chose to join another union with even less independence offered.

This. Us British hate the thought of having to be part of anything else and be told what to do by other countries. It's the island mentality 😂

Abhannmor · 27/01/2025 14:15

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 13:39

It would be much better for this country than letting the shower of shit establishment that we have here run the country. Hurtling faster towards the inevitable 3rd world status.

Crikey . There speaks someone who hasn't seen the Tent Cities in Philadelphia , Los Angeles even Vegas ...you name it. The crumbling infrastructure, the broken health service, the laughable railways. Not all Trump's fault I know. The rot set in with Reagan iirc.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:16

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:13

Bingo! You're starting to get it. The US wants out of NATO.

Hardly a revelation is it, it's been discussed and written about for years now. It is ashame that the special relationship that Reagan had with Thatcher is no longer something that is wanted.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:16

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:15

This. Us British hate the thought of having to be part of anything else and be told what to do by other countries. It's the island mentality 😂

Yet many people still bitch about wanting to re-join the EU.

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 14:17

Abhannmor · 27/01/2025 14:15

Crikey . There speaks someone who hasn't seen the Tent Cities in Philadelphia , Los Angeles even Vegas ...you name it. The crumbling infrastructure, the broken health service, the laughable railways. Not all Trump's fault I know. The rot set in with Reagan iirc.

Have you seen the slums and ghettos of inner city UK?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Deathraystare · 27/01/2025 13:27

Be taken o over by a country that microwaves tea and don't use a knife. NO!

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

beAsensible1 · 27/01/2025 14:17

no.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:18

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:16

Yet many people still bitch about wanting to re-join the EU.

Yes but in that context, different cultures are celebrated, they are allowed, it's not a melting pot like the U.S.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:19

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

Nah. We use guns for everything, including eating.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:20

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:18

Yes but in that context, different cultures are celebrated, they are allowed, it's not a melting pot like the U.S.

It means being dictated to by unelected foreign powers.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:20

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

Why, why microwave tea, don't you have a kettle?

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:20

4th of July could get a bit tricky.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.