Am I a far right extremist?

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I had a conversation with my best friend of 25 years the other day and she called me a far right extremist and how my views are scary, dangerous and 'nazi coded'
I was really shocked as I didn't think any of what I said was bad. I'm not a particularly avid supporter of any political party and very much keep opinions to myself. She's very supportive of labour and anti trump and always has been. Usually when she asks me my opinions I just don't want to get into it but I did the other night and now I feel bad.

Here's the breakdown:

• she sent me an article and told me that Nigel Farage is going to ban abortion eventually if he wins an election. I read the article and pointed out he only suggested lowering the abortion cut off date to 22 weeks (not 24 as it is now). I told her it wasn't the end of the world and it's reasonable if you read his reasons. I also made the point that men shouldn't really be getting involved in abortion law but that what he said wasn't the end of the world.

• she asked me about immigration and I said that it's great but that we should be prioritising skilled immigrants and have stronger immigration laws. She also asked about asylum seekers and hotels and I said that we should have stronger laws about monitoring people and collecting documentation when people arrive.

• she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way

• I said that immigrants who rape or murder should be deported.

To me this feels really reasonable and not over the top but she really attacked me for it? Now I feel really awkward and uncomfortable talking to her. Is this far right??

Your original friend is not a friend. She is twisting your words because you don't agree with her and is now turning people against you. I would speak to your mutual friend without your original friend around. Honestly, after original friend's behaviour saying you have been radicalised for very reasonable thoughts, she would be an ex friend of mine because clearly you can't share your thoughts without her turning you into some kind of lunatic. Watch out for her, I wouldn't trust her at all. Seems she is very into 'agree with me or I'll get you cancelled' culture.

I haven't followed this at all but we are an outlier here. I hadn't realised where the other countries were

Op I agree with pp on mn not being representative and @OneLemonGuide re illiberal views of some

Your friend sounds problematic if she's turning people against you, not sure about trust being there

"You just sound a bit stupid uninformed to me."

Wow, you sound really stupid uninformed to me.

"But maybe you live in a shitty white rural place where you never met any foreigners anyway so you have no idea."

And also really quite racist.

"If you only want skilled migrants to come in.."

It is also government policy as well.

With the exception of some jobs like care home workers and nurses who can be employed on lower wages, anyone who wants to come to work in the UK (with the exception of seasonal work eg on farms) has to be paid a minimum of £38,700.

For context, the median salary for a full time employee in the UK is £37,430.

If you want to be a dustbin person (refuse collector) you are not going to be paid anywhere near that amount. I just checked and Hull council are advertising for this role and paying up to £25,854 per year.

An immigrant could not come here and work as a refuse collector.

There are lower salary limits for care home workers, nurses and some other jobs. The exceptions to the general rule include job roles like nuclear scientists (but only in Scotland), archaeologists, lab technicians, professional dancers, orchestral musicians, graphic designers, jobs in the fishing industry, horse racing grooms and work riders.

Then there are a lot of construction roles; stonemasons, bricklayers, roofers, carpenters & joiners, welders.

If an immigrant has one of these skills then they do not have to be paid the higher figure of £38,700.

If they don't have one of these skills then they need to have a job which pays at least that much.

There are other routes. For example, recent graduates under the age of 26 have lower limits or those with a PhD in a STEM subject.

But, generally speaking, the era of immigrants coming here and doing the very low paid jobs (apart from seasonal farm labouring) is very much over.

I wrote paediatrician, not paedophile. A paediatrician is a doctor who specialises in treating children. I have said absolutely nothing about foreign men being paedophiles

You said he was paediatrician - why would him working with children be a problem given your views?

“It’s not the end of the world”.
Clearly you have precisely zero insight into the reasons why a woman might have an abortion between 22-24 weeks.

And what might those reasons be that would not be covered under the Abortion Act 1967 anyway and so not subject to any time limits?

I don’t understand what you mean? Abortion under the act is always subjected to the time limit of 24 weeks.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/87/section/1

Ah, so no response other than insults.

Perhaps far-right party political parties which attract neo-nazis and whose members deny the Holocaust don't worry you. Perhaps you don't see Musk's enthusiastic endorsement as problematic.

I await more insults.

Musk has visited Germany and given a talk at an AfD meeting.

Yes, and he attended the AfD rally via video link yesterday and endorsed them, as per my post.

Musk started by stating he was ‘very excited’ for the party and repeated his belief that the party is ‘the best hope’ for Germany.

Cut and paste is from The Spectator article published yesterday.

Your own link says otherwise in the first paragraph...

The 24-week "limit" is not a cut-off, it's a step change in the level of severity required as justification.

No it doesn’t?!! I’m very confused. It says that abortion is not an offence if it is done before 24 weeks and if other conditions apply.

Can you please clarify in what circumstances you believe an abortion is allowed after 24 weeks?

@username299

Do you have a link to the statistics or could you tell me where to find it?

London isn't equivalent to a developing country, yet it's incredibly ethnically diverse. Is the crime rate higher than any other major city?

So in Europe, London is ranked 16th for crime amongst major cities.

Interestingly the UK cities with the highest crime rate are
Bradford (1)
Coventry (3)
Birmingham (4)

You sound as though you would prefer the UK to be like South Africa under apartheid where you would never need to come into contact with a non-white person.

Are you the sort of person that would move house if a non-white family moved in next door?

Is Tommy Robinson a Nazi? Last I checked he supports Israel.

Crime has fallen exponentially in the past few decades.

So London, given that it's one of the largest cities and very ethnically diverse, isn't particularly high in comparison to other cities.

Do you have a link to the statistics or could you tell me where to find it?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/05/foreign-national-crime-league-table-sexual-offence-migrants/

But maybe you live in a shitty white rural place where you never met any foreigners anyway so you have no idea.

I don't know why anyone would think that this is an okay thing to say. If you were in an African country, would you be comfortable referring to a "shitty black rural place"?

I’m the sort of person who likes living somewhere that is safe for women to go out alone and doesn’t have any ‘no go’ areas for women or white people - both of which you have in cities across the UK

Does he have extreme far right views? Last time I checked he does.
Presumably he supports Israel over Palestine, that does not make him not extreme far right.

Agreed. The hypocrisy of the Left in action!

I think with all this talk of Nazis we need to remember why Hitler came to power, why did so many people support him? It’s because people felt under threat, it’s because people didn’t feel listened to. People felt alienated, helpless and that their way of life and existence were under threat.

People can take whatever political stance they want, but without followers they have no power. We need to understand why people are moving to the extremes of politics (and extreme left is as bad as extreme right). When people feel their voices are being removed they fight back. When people think their way of existence is threatened they fight back, when people feel their children are under threat they will do anything to protect them. Over the past few years we have had our voices increasingly shut down, our way of life has been undermined by numerous things, cost of living crisis, mass building projects, overburdening of public services, covid, multiculturalism.

We’ve seen our children (and I mean here the children of whatever tribe we ultimately align with) threatened, the rise of knife crime, indoctrination by ludicrous ideologies in schools and medical professions, child rape gangs.

The mistake those in power have made is ignoring people, shutting people up (and down) when they have voiced their concerns. Politicians of all persuasions have become disconnected from the experiences of the majority in this country. They can shut down the discontent for so long, yet if these things aren’t addressed eventually peaceful protests turn to revolution,

We have a weak leader - he’s proved how ineffectual and out of touch he is. We need to get someone in to be strong and listen. Otherwise the wrong people make the public think they are being listened to and are all too happy to fill that power vacuum.

People need to stop worrying about individual policies and whether things are left or right- you’re being distracted by irrelevance, and see the big picture

@Feelingathomenow Which strong leader do you suggest?