Am I a far right extremist?

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I had a conversation with my best friend of 25 years the other day and she called me a far right extremist and how my views are scary, dangerous and 'nazi coded'
I was really shocked as I didn't think any of what I said was bad. I'm not a particularly avid supporter of any political party and very much keep opinions to myself. She's very supportive of labour and anti trump and always has been. Usually when she asks me my opinions I just don't want to get into it but I did the other night and now I feel bad.

Here's the breakdown:

• she sent me an article and told me that Nigel Farage is going to ban abortion eventually if he wins an election. I read the article and pointed out he only suggested lowering the abortion cut off date to 22 weeks (not 24 as it is now). I told her it wasn't the end of the world and it's reasonable if you read his reasons. I also made the point that men shouldn't really be getting involved in abortion law but that what he said wasn't the end of the world.

• she asked me about immigration and I said that it's great but that we should be prioritising skilled immigrants and have stronger immigration laws. She also asked about asylum seekers and hotels and I said that we should have stronger laws about monitoring people and collecting documentation when people arrive.

• she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way

• I said that immigrants who rape or murder should be deported.

To me this feels really reasonable and not over the top but she really attacked me for it? Now I feel really awkward and uncomfortable talking to her. Is this far right??

Musk knew exactly what he was doing and how it would look.

It would have been remarkable indeed if this one moment had not been

It was two "moments".

Welcome to MN btw.

Do you think Nazis just popped out of the ground at started doing these unimaginable things? No.

It happened slowly. Fear, propaganda, othering and hate made people believe they were doing the right thing and that's exactly what's happening now.

This. Opinions are just that, no more, no less 🤷‍♀️

OP - just go with your own opinions. Those from randoms off of a net forum are irrelevant. 🤷‍♀️

As someone who has Jewish heritage, I don’t believe it was a Nazi salute and also agree with all the points you do.
Personally I believe the abortion limit is far too late in this country and should be lowered like it is in mainland Europe (unless for medical reasons/birth defects).

So if an immigrant raped someone they shouldn't be deported?? And if you think they should then you're far right, this is whats wrong in the world!!

I would say you right wing, bordering on the far right because of the Elon Musk comment.

Who said that?

But do you know how it started…….?

Have you visited the camps? Have you clearly understood the history of it.

it started, with people like the far right, shouting in their echo chambers.

Then look what happened….

But we’re not discussing a person who simply has opposing views to the centre or left.

I agree that calling someone a Nazi simply because they’re just right of centre is OTT. But no one is doing that here.

EM is championing a neo-Nazi extreme far right fascist party into power in Germany. Then he repeatedly does a Nazi salute as he thanks the crowd at the inauguration of the leader of the free world after buying the election. He then takes no responsibility, offers no meaningful apology or shows any respect for the ghastly historical significance of that gesture.

No one is flippantly throwing the word Nazi around here. I know it’s hard for us all to stomach but sadly this word is being used in this context for good reason.

It is in the OP.

100%

This such as interesting take.

It seems the Jewish community have been very quiet about this compared Kanye's comments.

Yes, I’ve seen it, have you? He clearly does 2 nazi salutes.

Agreed, totally done twice!

Apologies! I thought someone had voiced that opinion on the thread.

I personally don't disagree with a lot of what you've said. I think it's how normal, measured humans think (but are now too scared to voice!) But you'll likely be ripped apart on here.
I'm pretty centrist in my politics and, from what I've experienced, especially online, is that the 'extremists' are firmly far LEFT.

Michael Rosen and others have spoken/written about it.

Thirded - especially the point about nuance

OP I don't think your views are extreme though I don't agree with you on the abortion limit being reduced but I do agree with you that men should not get a say.

I don't think it was unambiguously a Nazi salute, but maybe that was the whole point. Get publicity - whether negative or positive - for doing something that could be construed that way.

There was a neo-Nazi/white supremacist organisation in South Africa which had a three pronged version of the swastika so maybe it's their version of the Nazi salute.

Take a look at some of the groups he’s taking money from, who are also funding anti abortion groups in the UK.

You could certainly say that about any political party.

How on earth could you not think it? Genuinely curious.

I’ve just assumed everyone who’s saying it’s not a Nazi salute is secretly a Nazi but don’t want to admit it…

There are two ways to do it. Watch the current Nazi parties doing it EXACTLY like he does.

the problem probably is that most people haven’t seen enough films about Nazis so they don’t recognise it, because they’ve seen couple of photos in a school book and Schindler’s list once

Really? I saw an Instagram post from the Association of Jewish Refugees just yesterday condemning it.

You’ve not followed the post I was responding to. It wasn’t about Musk, specifically.