Circumcision should be banned.

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2025/01/judge-and-parents-call-for-boys-to-be-protected-from-circumcision

Article describes an upsetting case of two doctors performing these ops without anesthesia, and with sometimes serious side effects. One boy nearly died.

The National Secular Society is running a concurrent campaign to ban all 'religious cutting' - that includes both FGM and male circumcision. I wholeheartedly agree that no baby or child should suffer in this way. More info:

https://www.secularism.org.uk/religious-surgery/

YABU - circumcision for religous reasons is fine
YANBU - circumcision should be banned (unless there is a medical reason)

I get your point
If I was to have a party and invite loads of friends round and then someone with no medical qualifications cut some loose skin off my baby with no anaesthetic and not necessarily in a sterile environment then quite rightly SS would want to be involved
Why should that not be the case if I say I am Muslim or Jewish?

It's bonkers isn't it.

If we as a society condone it when parents are a certain religion then that means we are accepting that babies that have the bad luck to be born to parents of that religion can have their bodily integrity painfully and permanently violated.

I think circumcision is one of those practices we'll look back on hundreds of years from now aghast.

but...they are. They are abusing the body of their child. There is nothing worthy of respect in that practice, and the excuses of religion or culture are just that - excuses.

Doing something else right doesn't negate that this is wrong.

The child doesn't even have to share their religion as an adult, but will be forever marked and mutilated because they didn't bother to think.

Nope- I filter out friends depending on who is willing to mutilate their children’s genitals. Religion isn’t an excuse for harming children.

I wouldn’t be friends with anyone who mutilates their child. Any of you so called ‘mothers’ who have allowed their sons to be circumcised abused are utterly disgusting

Azure - I suspect you've got quite a limited range of friends. I'm friendly with a Korean couple, loads of Jews and Muslims, a Filipino and a Nigerian couple, etc. I'm sure even among the Christians lots of them have their children circ'd but I've never thought of asking. They would think it a very odd question...

It’s not something I asked about. It’s something that they told me they had arranged to have done.

To be fair they’re probably not that bothered if that was your response

Hopefully we will look back aghast a lot sooner then 'hundreds of years' in the future.

My beautiful son after 8 days old? Anyone's beautiful baby after birth being handed over to be cut? It's bad enough having the heel prick test, don't worry I wasn't dramatic but even at 1 plus getting his innoculations which he had to have was bad enough... I just don't get this at all & don't say it's cultural it isn't, it's insane

I heard someone upthread sayin their American husband wanted it done to their baby beause "otherwise he won't look like me" no words

I don’t imagine they are. Similarly, I wouldn’t want anything to do with someone like that.

In hot countries it's easier to keep clean and less sweaty, so I understand why most of the countries near equator circumcise boys at birth. The foreskin has no purpose, doesn't affect sex, removal at birth prevents problems later on like foreskin being too tight.

The foreskin has no purpose?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lots of populations near the equator have no tradition of infant circumcision (hint: Jews do it to show that they are different - it wasn't the default in "hot countries".)

It should be simple enough to work out number of infants needed to circumcise to avoid a phimosis needing circumcision (most don't). It's over 100 to prevent 1 uti - over time, you'll have a death or accidental amputation to avoid the uti or phimosis so need to take that into account as well.

Sweaty foreskin is not a thing, and people with no experience with foreskins really overestimate how hard it is to keep a small boy with one clean...

"doesn't affect sex,"

And you would know this how?

It says so in the 'Parents guide to mutilating your child's penis for no reason' handbook.

It's under the 'what bollocks to make up when people challenge your pathetic reasons' section.

Very very few men/boys need their foreskin removed later for medical reasons.
Your argument suggests we should cut off all sorts of bits from babies in case they cause an issue later

@Hoppinggreen You mean I didn't really need to lob my kids toes off at birth even though he might have got athletes foot later in life? Shit.

We removed DD's tonsils during her Christening,party, you never know

What is this thing about keeping a foreskin clean? I have a son, I have never paid his foreskin any special attention (should I have?) he used to just splash about in the bath. My son's an adult now.

What utter nonsense. It’s not less sweaty and it does affect a sex.

It's best that a young boy is taught how to pull it back and wash around the base of the glans when having a bath or showering. You would think it would be obvious but to many it isn't.

For little ones it’s fine to just have a splash in the bath when they get older it’s a good idea to pull back the foreskin and give it a wash with a flannel to make sure there isn’t any cheesy build up. My ex was in the army apparently new recruits are given instruction on how to wash properly! It can cause quite nasty sores if sand got trapped under a foreskin and left. Possibly more applicable if you were to end up fighting in a desert.

Why are you spreading misinformation? What are you getting from it?