Killer claims to be ill

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According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

It isn't deeply offensive at all. One would query something like schizophrenia in cases like this, knowing that many many people are living with schizophrenia and wouldn't harm anyone.

Mental illness is not sufficient enough a term. Psychopathy does not fall within the definition of mental illness. I'd define someone at an extreme end of psychopathy who could behave in a way devoid of emotion and empathy as very ill.

There is something else going on with this kid.

Tbf he's definitely mentally ill. No sane person would act that way

They have. Ethan Crumbley, the school shooter himself, and both his parents convicted. It was the first conviction of parents in America for their culpability in allowing it to happen (access to weapons, failure to support, negligence etc). I watched the whole case because it was such a landmark in American law trying to find ways to address the root causes of these shootings and prevent them from happening. In that case there were numerous extremely concerning red flags that were ignored; I believe the school is also being pursued civilly by the parents, but perhaps should have been a test case for criminal negligence.

I suspect that even if he has had assessments done they’ve been done very quickly and weren’t thorough due to the short time that’s gone by. I fully expect that over the course of the next few years more will come to light regarding this individuals state of mind.

I wonder why ‘disordered personality types’ aren’t included! They don’t seem normal?

They do have the death penalty. It's horrendous, the convict is only told a few hours before that today is his last day.

Injected with his own homemade poison.

I think that poster meant that Japan is a civilised country that does have the death penalty.

And the prize for post of the day goes to ...... Growsomeballswoman

They were not convicted for failing to report a crime.

They were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter due to not only being aware of his mental state, but proceeding to buy him a gun while being fully aware he was a danger:

”Prosecutors had alleged that the pair had dismissed clear signs that their son's mental health had deteriorated, and noted that the parents had bought Ethan Crumbley the gun he used in the 2021 attack.”

This is not true.

Telling the police
If you witness a crime you have a vital role to play in bringing the criminals to justice.
If you witness a crime you have a vital role to play in bringing the criminals to justice. You may well be feeling upset and have doubts about reporting what you have seen. There is no legal obligation to contact the police, but the information you give them could bring a criminal to justice. Reporting the crime to the police could prevent further crimes being committed and protect others from becoming victims.

www.cps.gov.uk/reporting-crime#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20legal%20obligation,protect%20others%20from%20becoming%20victims.

Unfortunately it’s not possible to prevent murders. There will always be evil people who have no qualms about doing evil things.
The internet has a lot to answer. It should be easy to fact find and learn ‘the truth’ but it’s just doesn’t seem to work.
So much misinformation and propaganda it’s no surprise the world is screwed.
It was so much simpler pre internet.

Very worrying that 7% have said you are BU.

I take it you didn't listen to the judge summing up

None of that means he isn't sane. You can't deal with the idea that he is, and it's easier and more comforting to see him as somehow mentally disordered. But even his own defence said there is no evidence of that.

I'll have to go find the post. The explanation was very good. There are probably alot of disordered personality types in society who would not be on the end of the scale that would enable them to kill like this with no emotion. They say many successful business owners and politicians ( Trump) have many signs of a disordered personality such as psychopathy or sociopathy.

You couldn't realistically manage everyone who was identified as such and many would not pose risk.

In this case there were concerning behaviours out of the ordinary. There is not sufficient provision for any out of the ordinary behaviours with kids. So that's the first problem. If the services ( such ad Tier 3 support) were available I don't know if you could medicate this away! I don't think you can. That does kind of re enforce the point that some people are just evil and not subject to a treatable condition. I call someone like this, like Dahmer very ill, but as say sociopaths or psychopaths, there's no treatable disease to attribute the word ill to.

Have I missed something? Did the father inform the police when he prevented his son from getting in a taxi en route to massacre innocent people?

What's the defence re the weapons under his bed and ricin in his bedroom? They failed to notice that too, I guess...

Why would they be deported? They have been settled in the country for almost two decades. Why do you assume they are being protected via the taxpayer? They just seem to be living and working like any other Briton.

Unless they regularly searched his room why would they notice?

And as for not telling the police about them stopping his first attack maybe they thought that was the end of it? The parents have committed no crime.

He should just be hung the evil bastard

To be fair, they may have done. I would hope their actions are looked into closely, but I doubt that will happen. I doubt they'll be charged with anything, anyway. Far easier to not look too closely.

Stabbing a six year old 122 times. Definitely. That made me feel sick.

Not sure that has anything to do with it. Norway does not have the death penalty and less violent crime than us.

The USA has the death penalty and far more violent crime than us.

I agree
not Mad
he’s BAD
fucking evil narcissist