Killer claims to be ill

[Galatine]

According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

30 years before he gets a parole hearing which he will most likely fail. He's not getting whole life due to his age at the time, which I believe he deliberately used, showing he's mentally competent enough to have researched and decided that. I don't believe that was a random choice. I hope for more, but we'll see.

He will get a life sentence with a tariff. To be spent inside.

When did convicts become so entitled to do what they want, even through the judiciary system?
They all seem to be refusing to face up to their fate. It’s a shame you can’t drag them out but officers hands are tied more than the criminals.

You should get time added automatically for refusal to attend sentencing.

Same as that fucking bitch who killed Arthur. Can't face your crimes, have another five years.

Wasn't the child Moroccan from what I read?

122 times. WTF. Poor child.

I thought that and then I thought you couldn't control their behaviour if they were dragged to the dock.

@MaggieMistletoe For convicted people who are 17 when they commit the murder there are rules about sentencing. It’s completely unlikely he won’t be in a high security mental facility for many decades. The prisoner is given a tariff they must serve before parole can be considered. Even if it’s ever considered, it can be refused. We have a society that believes young people under the ago of 18 when they commit the crime have a different sentencing regime but this won’t be a lenient sentence and he will be segregated. We used to use the term “criminally insane” and this is likely to be the outcome but it is not called that.

I'm sitting here crying hearing what he did to those little girls. They were tiny. I just can't understand how no one put a stop to him from when he was 13.

Those poor, poor little girls. All of them there that day. Their poor parents.

He's playing the Court like a fiddle. He’s going to to keep on feigning sickness and i do believe it’s feigned and The Courts are going to keep falling for it. Mind you I suppose by Law they have to give him the benefit of the doubt, incase he is being genuine. However can the Judge not sentence him in his absence.

Interesting from the judge, maybe sexist needs to be added to the description of terrorism, that would cover sprees against women but also men, thinking Joanna Dennehy here.

The attack, he said, was “equivalent” of a terror attack, even though it did not legally fit the definition of terrorism because it did not have a political, religious, racial or ideological cause. Whether his motivation was terrorism “misses the point”.

Did you serious just refer to those poor little girls as ‘collateral damage’?

Wtf is wrong with you?

He can't get a 'whole life tariff' but that doesn't mean that, when he eventually comes up for parole, they ever have to let him out.

I’ve been the same today. Being a mum to 2 beautiful girls genuinely terrifies me knowing people like him are walking among us

He is evil personified

It's not as simple as that you can enforce ,psychiatric medication under a section but treatment for physical health can only be enforced aa a one off there maybe other ways around it I'm not sure.

Dennehy is a psychopath through and through and she hated men.
Did he kill the kids purely because he hated little girls?
If so then he deserves a tuna lid

Nobody who commits this type of crime is mentally normal, so how about we stop bringing out the “mental illness” card.

He knew exactly what he was doing, and he’s actually expressed that he’s glad that the girls are dead.

I save my empathy for genuine victims, which he most definitely isn’t.

As for comparing him to the bulger killers, there is a vast difference between 10 and 17 year olds., so there is no comparison to make.

Oh, and I hope Lucy Letby rots in hell as well.

Apparently the judge said a lack of remorse is not an aggravating factor in sentencing. Why on earth isn't it?

The victim impact statements are so distressing to read that one can barely imagine the horror of that day. For what it's worth I wish for them some form of hope in the future. For now the grief and trauma is still so horribly real.

Why is it stupid thing? Genuinely?

@ElatedShark DFOD.

51 years! Quite right. This judge has done the best he can.

Shame he can't serve 13 lots of 51 years, one after the other.

51 years for the murders. Excellent sentence.

The judge sent him out and continued, then sentenced in his absence.