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Killer claims to be ill

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Galatine · 23/01/2025 12:09

According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

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JessiesJ99 · 23/01/2025 15:49

I see a good kicking in his future......

peachystormy · 23/01/2025 15:49

His photo is pure evil personified

MaggieMistletoe · 23/01/2025 15:51

WillimNot · 23/01/2025 15:12

I give it a week before he converts, after all he had terror manuals which guided him on how to stab mass victims.

The sad fact is, animals like this are on special wings where hard criminals who should be able to impose their own justice can't get to him.

Mores the pity.

He won't just be given food and warmth not afforded to the likes of you and I when times are tough, he will have soft prison wardens keeping him safe from harm all paid for by you and I.

Yet we can't give winter fuel payments to pensioners and our front line services are on their last legs.

When will we all realise that we are being mugged off. The new government is on par with the last for uselessness. You can do any enquiry you like but it won't mean those children won't have been murdered, the rest scarred for life. It won't stop it happening again because it will.

How many more?

This government is worse IMO, Starmer has a long and proven track record as a sympathiser of those who commit violence and sexual violence against women and children.

JessiesJ99 · 23/01/2025 15:51

Growsomeballswoman · 23/01/2025 12:55

if he does go on hunger strike, can he be allowed to die?

I don't think so? They would probably section him & force feed him? Ian Brady was always on hunger strike!

Pippinsdiary · 23/01/2025 15:52

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 23/01/2025 12:46

I had thought that after examination, it was decided that he is not mentally ill and he hasn’t claimed to be but will be happy to be corrected

He’s just an evil cunt. Too much blamed on mental illness because normal people can’t comprehend how anyone could act that way unless he is mentally ill.

AnnaL94 · 23/01/2025 15:53

ElatedShark · 23/01/2025 15:05

The lack of empathy for a child who is obviously mentally disturbed is awful but alot of you were in threads feeling sorry for that baby killer Lucy Letby. Interesting.

I think he should get the same sentence as the guys that murdered James Bulger. With intense therapy.

It's a sad case but murders happen all the time, my focus is on all families who have lost their children

You can’t be fucking serious?

myrtleWilson · 23/01/2025 15:53

@AllesAusLiebe writing on Facebook got the London rioters in 2011 jail time

JessiesJ99 · 23/01/2025 15:53

Growsomeballswoman · 23/01/2025 13:04

I've looked it up. You cant tube feed someone without permission from them

They would probably section him I guess. Then do it.

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/01/2025 15:53

Lentilweaver · 23/01/2025 13:23

I am not convinced Axel is mentally ill at all.
I think male violence is the biggest scourge in this world and should be tackled. Though of course I have no easy solutions.

This

I'm furious the issue has moved to the availability of knives and lack of mental health services.

It's about fucking violence towards women and girls. It always has been.

PocketSand · 23/01/2025 15:56

The government has decided that tax payers will not fund early intervention at nursery and primary level and provide support to those who need it.

Unfortunately this means that a lot of teenagers (and their parents who have sought support for years) reach a crisis point. It is no longer the case that such crisis only affects the young person and their immediate family. It is spread out to the wider community with the young person not recognising they needed support but seeking revenge or attacking easy targets.

I suspect those vilifying the perpetrator are also opposed to paying enough tax to support preschool and primary school children who are also referred to as little shits.

Maybe as a cost/benefit it's worth it. Save taxes and only a few atrocities carried out by teens that needed much earlier support than they received. And then demonise them and call them monsters and the parents crap.

Meanwhile those of us that recognise that some children need support and professions need to be funded to provide it feel devastated for those who suffer 'collateral damage' due to failure and are left to mourn innocent victims.

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 23/01/2025 15:57

Violent men without knives leads to what a fist fight. Of course laws on knife access are important.

AllesAusLiebe · 23/01/2025 15:57

myrtleWilson · 23/01/2025 15:53

@AllesAusLiebe writing on Facebook got the London rioters in 2011 jail time

Indeed - for inciting violence and encouraging people to amass and engage in rioting and rightly so. Bit of a difference there when compared with some of the sentences that were handed out last year.

Youvebeenframed · 23/01/2025 15:58

Stick a needle in him.
If ever there was an argument for bringing back the death penalty this is it. Pure evil
Shame on the 7% who voted YABU 😡 fucking idiots

sashh · 23/01/2025 15:59

BreatheAndFocus · 23/01/2025 13:05

As I said, they tube fed Brady. They might have had to get a court order to do it, but they did.

Brady was in a psychiatric hospital. There you can force feed. That is why he wanted a transfer to prison where they couldn't.

2dogsandabudgie · 23/01/2025 15:59

JHound · 23/01/2025 14:55

Yes he has been charged for all those things though. They only found those items post the incident.

I think it’s perfectly legal in the UK to have a machete (we had one in our house growing up) so it does not seem there was anything they were aware prior to the attacks that could have been used to hold up or imprison him.

I know he did attack somebody with a bat at school and was sent home from school for having a knife but I don’t know what the process would be - I doubt a minor would face significant jail time for either of those (or even if a police complaint was made.)

From September 2024 it was made illegal to own certain types of machetes and 'zombie style' knives.

Can I ask why your household had a machete and what it was used for. I don't know anyone who owns a knife like that.

wastingtimeonhere · 23/01/2025 15:59

My feelings are unprintable. There are far too many 'knife' murders. It's our version of USA guns.
The scum who murdered the woman on Bournemouth beach recently was found guilty after trying to wiggle out of it. I hope he never sees light of day again too.
There is a thread on here running about prisoners getting tv/ gyms..that's interesting to read views on that, too. Although for the Bournemouth and Southport scum I'd be happy to see a steel cell sealed with a gap to shove rations through as their residence for the next 60 years.

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 23/01/2025 16:00

HashtagShitShop · 23/01/2025 13:58

His parents didn't call the police five times. Social services requested police attendance each time they attended the house to visit with Axel as they didn't feel safe being near him.

If adults are requesting police support to be near your child should you really be leaving them to have free roam? But when they are not under an official section or similar how can you stop them?

Like others I suspect evil not mad. His behaviour his words, his actions previously.... Just an evil spiteful little boy out to cause as much harm and grieving to as many people as possible. For that act alone he should have a full life tariff with no chance of parole even if he was just over a week off his 18th birthday.

Cowardice is not illness. He should be gagged to prevent his complaints and forced to listen to every word from those poor girls family and the judges and prosecution barristers.

His parents didn't call the police five times. Social services requested police attendance each time they attended the house to visit with Axel as they didn't feel safe being near him

I stand corrected. The initial BBC report, after he pled guilty, stated police attended his home five times - they didn't qualify it was at the behest of Social Services. However, I think it still requires the full inquiry to understand who/what/where things went wrong, weren't followed up etc. Valdo Calocane's family repeatedly contacted the mental health trust responsible for him - and we all know what happened. And, as you state, I also do not think he has any mental health issues simply because I cannot imagine his defence team would have not fully investigated that possibility so he faced charges of manslaughter rather than the murder charge that he pled guilty to.

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 23/01/2025 16:01

wastingtimeonhere · 23/01/2025 15:59

My feelings are unprintable. There are far too many 'knife' murders. It's our version of USA guns.
The scum who murdered the woman on Bournemouth beach recently was found guilty after trying to wiggle out of it. I hope he never sees light of day again too.
There is a thread on here running about prisoners getting tv/ gyms..that's interesting to read views on that, too. Although for the Bournemouth and Southport scum I'd be happy to see a steel cell sealed with a gap to shove rations through as their residence for the next 60 years.

With Taylor Swift hits playing around the clock.

IVFmumoftwo · 23/01/2025 16:02

Actually failure to report is a crime. Pretty sure the parents of a school shooter have also been jailed in America.

murasaki · 23/01/2025 16:02

The mitigation was very short. They asked for the lowest sentence the judge could give. I'm still guessing it should be 30 plus years given the number of victims including the injured, and the fact they were children.

NooNakedJacuzziness · 23/01/2025 16:03

He's not coming back for the sentencing - fucking coward.

NDSceptic · 23/01/2025 16:05

There seems to be a lot of nativity on here about what some people are like. Mentally disturbed is not the same a mental illness; there is nothing to treat, it is who they are. You could call every man in prison ‘mentally disturbed’. That does not mean they should be in a secure hospital instead. They should be in prison. We don’t need to feel sorry for this man, we should feel sorry for his victims. Just as we should feel sorry for the victims of other criminals - be they rapists who pass young girls round hundreds of men who are then ignored by the police, or a GP who kills scores by overdosing with drugs, or a man who takes a bomb to a rock concert.

oakleaffy · 23/01/2025 16:09

NooNakedJacuzziness · 23/01/2025 16:03

He's not coming back for the sentencing - fucking coward.

He should be forced to attend.

I'm sure in USA prisoners would be dragged to attend - and often in chains and an orange jumpsuit.

American jails do seem better at sentencing too ''Without possibility of parole''

This creepy coward should never see the light of day again.

30 years? He'll likely out while still under 50 and likely to be a danger to women and girls.

User8646382 · 23/01/2025 16:10

I think he targeted those little girls for the same reason the asylum seeker in Germany killed a 2 year old earlier this week - because it’s the most heinous crime imaginable. He apparently stabbed one of the children 122 times. I don’t think it had anything to do with violence towards women and girls. It was about committing an act so depraved that it would send a message about the depths to which he, and others like him, are willing to sink. Why else target children?

Apparently he was obsessed with ‘white genocide’:

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JohnTheRevelator · 23/01/2025 16:11

tanstaafl · 23/01/2025 12:37

I’m sure I read that as he was 17 at the time it’s unlikely he’ll spend the rest of his life in jail.

I can imagine that if he isn't given a life sentence that there will be 'civil unrest' again.

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