Killer claims to be ill

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According to the BBC Axel Rudakubana is shouting in court that he is ill.
AIBU to say I couldn’t give a shit!

Given he's being sentenced right now, I'm not entirely sure that'll happen.

Some do there was a horrific case near me when a psychotic young women stabbed a child to death in a park in the early days of the pandemic completely random attack
I assume hes been assserd ,though and doesnt have a mental illness

I sat on the jury for a person who was convinced for Intent to Commit An Act of Terrorism on the basis of their diary entries, purchased chemicals and accessing terrorist handbooks. I personally felt that they were highly unlikely to have actually carried out those crimes (they were a severe agoraphobic for one thing).

So yes, he probably could have had charges brought against him earlier.

And he had anti-Islamic material, so maybe not.

Yes.

I give it a week before he converts, after all he had terror manuals which guided him on how to stab mass victims.

The sad fact is, animals like this are on special wings where hard criminals who should be able to impose their own justice can't get to him.

Mores the pity.

He won't just be given food and warmth not afforded to the likes of you and I when times are tough, he will have soft prison wardens keeping him safe from harm all paid for by you and I.

Yet we can't give winter fuel payments to pensioners and our front line services are on their last legs.

When will we all realise that we are being mugged off. The new government is on par with the last for uselessness. You can do any enquiry you like but it won't mean those children won't have been murdered, the rest scarred for life. It won't stop it happening again because it will.

How many more?

Hear hear

I sincerely hope the real justice comes to
him in a quiet corner of the prison.

That may make me a terrible person but every time I think of those poor children it makes me ill. That bastard should be skinned alive.

You bet, I am a pensioner

This case has had so much publicity I suspect it will be a question of just how quickly it will happen as he’ll be a prime target inside prison.

What would yours be then? If it’s an accurate description then it sounds pretty cushy to me

Given that he may have originally intended to carry out the attack in his old mixed sex school, I'm not sure this was necessarily anti-female.

James Bulgers murderer were far younger, were they both 10 at the time? I don't think a 17 year old should be entitled to the same treatment.

I hope the judge tells him that he would have got a whole life tariff, if he had been 13 days older.

What he did was horrifying and tragic.

I do though, think that he is mentally disturbed rather than just evil.

Would that matter to you if it was your child who was stabbed?

There's no psych report

Who are the 7%? Obviously they can’t be aware of how bad this mad is and what he’s done - if they do then something must be seriously wrong with them.

Clearly just an inflammatory post. The sentence for James Bulger’s murderers is a good argument for the fact it was completely inadequate. And “it’s a sad case but murders happen all the time”? You want to talk about empathy?

Genuinely, maybe that should be looked at for this sort of kid, who is already violent and obviously going to go on to major offending. Some sort of therapeutic residential placement.

Would be hellishly expensive and I don’t know if there’s any evidence it would work. Borstals certainly didn’t work, young offenders institutes don’t.

He will have Been assessed to establish wether he has a mental illness or not.

He also had a book on Hitler and materials on the IRA. If he wanted to becone muslim he would have a Qu’ran.

He just had information on terror organisations not anything faith based.

People who are gleefully anticipating AR's fellow prisoners beating him up: have you thought about the reality of this? If we condone violence amongst prisoners, what we are condoning is AR being able to take out his own violent urges against other prisoners and generally have a lovely time doing so. Why would you want that? I want him locked up for years in a situation where he has zero opportunity for violence or to see violence so that his urges remain wholly unsatisfied, and where he receives whatever treatment he needs to remove those urges.

I'm so sick of this - murderers, rapists and violent criminals claiming to have 'mental health' issues or having suffered from childhood abuse, in order to get a lighter sentence. I know these are of course real issues for some, and is indeed tragic, but the vast majority of those affected do not go on to rape, murder and torture people. Some people are just evil bastards, unfortunately for the rest of us. I can't help thinking they should forcefeed him if necessary to continue with the case, then after sentencing let him carry on if he wishes. He should also be made to be present in court when required. FFS our justice system is shit, letting people decide if they do or don't want to appear to face charges. It's a fucking farce.

”Cushy” describes an environment I would like to spend time in.

Nothing about that sounded like I would want to be there.