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Blake lively

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laurwalsh · 22/01/2025 20:45

Has anyone seen the video footage that totally proves Blake Lively was lying about her accusations of Justin Baldoni. Total Amber Heard vibes from this and it's scary to think how many cases that can't be proved have destroyed men's lives.

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FishBowlSwimmer · 23/01/2025 20:41

Babybaby2025 · 23/01/2025 11:47

Multiple judges in the UK after extensive trial believed her. I think that has more credibility than a perfectly crafted smear campaign targeting the minds of the impressionable

Not true. UK judge decided that what was written about JD was not liable, it was reasonable for the press to believe what JDs wife said, not that what she said was the truth. The Law is very complex and people really should pay attention to the nuances.

FishBowlSwimmer · 23/01/2025 20:41

Babybaby2025 · 23/01/2025 11:47

Multiple judges in the UK after extensive trial believed her. I think that has more credibility than a perfectly crafted smear campaign targeting the minds of the impressionable

Not true. UK judge decided that what was written about JD was not liable, it was reasonable for the press to believe what JDs wife said, not that what she said was the truth. The Law is very complex and people really should pay attention to the nuances.

Wemaybebetterstrangers · 23/01/2025 20:57

ColinOfficeTrolley · 22/01/2025 21:36

I see her trying very hard to steer him away from kissing her - which is what she said she did.

I see her using appeasing actions and language to keep things 'light', like so many women do with males when they are trying to protect themselves - which is what she said she did.

Well done for buying the bs though and also being horrible about Amber Heard at the same time. Bravo.

‘I see her trying very hard to steer him away from kissing her - which is what she said she did.
I see her using appeasing actions and language to keep things 'light', like so many women do with males when they are trying to protect themselves - which is what she said she did.’

Exactly what I saw too. She is trying to act the part but clearly can’t stand the guy and is trying to avoid him kissing her. There’s no direction for any of what he’s trying to do, only that they’re supposed to be ‘falling in love’ during the dance. He’s being a gropey letch.

fairycakes1234 · 23/01/2025 21:00

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 22/01/2025 21:30

If you actually think that video proves she's lying you are a very real problem.
Do not get the hate this women seems to attract from people at all.

A very real problem, wah🤣bit extreme, I'm on the fence, it'll all come out anyway

JandamiHash · 23/01/2025 21:27

Mollysay · 23/01/2025 18:35

I would believe this if it weren't for the fact she was shilling her hair care line and her husbands alcohol brand during the promo. This is usually frowned upon in film promo, are you saying they told her to do this also?

Reality is she can be insufferable and still have experienced sexual harassment, she still doesn't deserve it no matter how problematic she is (thought she's awful since she made jokes about her co-star in GG having been born in prison which is spiteful and nothing has ever seemed to contradict this rep). That said, this is messy AF and who knows what went on.

Well it’s spelled in court documents so it would be odd if you didn’t believe it.

Never saw her promote a hair care line in interviews, when did this happen?

Mollysay · 23/01/2025 22:00

JandamiHash · 23/01/2025 21:27

Well it’s spelled in court documents so it would be odd if you didn’t believe it.

Never saw her promote a hair care line in interviews, when did this happen?

The Betty Blooms pop up / it ends with us inspired cocktails she posted and promoted, her hair care line that launched 3 days before the premiere, Gordon Reynolds in the end credits. Interesting how even when directly asked about the theme of the film (DV) she doesn't evade or change the subject but gives shitty answers.

JandamiHash · 23/01/2025 22:13

Mollysay · 23/01/2025 22:00

The Betty Blooms pop up / it ends with us inspired cocktails she posted and promoted, her hair care line that launched 3 days before the premiere, Gordon Reynolds in the end credits. Interesting how even when directly asked about the theme of the film (DV) she doesn't evade or change the subject but gives shitty answers.

Sis he didn’t promote her haircare line during the film she launched it just before?

What shitty answers did she give regarding domestic violence?

Babybaby2025 · 23/01/2025 22:25

arcticpandas · 23/01/2025 13:36

I wouldn't underestimate the US court system. And her multiple lies were all open for the public to see. A disgusting human being. And Depp is an old stoner so I'm not a fan of his but he wasn't manipulative as she was.

Depp is an old stoner and an abuser

Babybaby2025 · 23/01/2025 22:30

FishBowlSwimmer · 23/01/2025 20:41

Not true. UK judge decided that what was written about JD was not liable, it was reasonable for the press to believe what JDs wife said, not that what she said was the truth. The Law is very complex and people really should pay attention to the nuances.

The judge found that 12 of the 14 alleged incidents of abuse were proven to a civil standard. Many of the evidence used in this trial was omitted in the US trial, due to depps very savvy legal team. Depp fans post trial clubbed together to purchase the omitted evidence in hope they could further add to their amber heard hate pile on, but were very quick to pretend what they discovered never existed.

Feelabandoned · 23/01/2025 23:17

Mollysay · 23/01/2025 22:00

The Betty Blooms pop up / it ends with us inspired cocktails she posted and promoted, her hair care line that launched 3 days before the premiere, Gordon Reynolds in the end credits. Interesting how even when directly asked about the theme of the film (DV) she doesn't evade or change the subject but gives shitty answers.

@Mollysay in her court case she explains (with evidence) that the date of her hair care launch was set before she even signed up to the film.

JB’s PR team created this tone deaf narrative about BL, and specifically used her hair promo and the florals as examples. JB had instructed the entire cast to focus on florals and positive messages.

Anything you think about her and know about her is based on what you’ve seen and read online, which is all subject to manipulation. In this case, the manipulation has been proven.

LadyTottingham · 23/01/2025 23:58

The US trial was heavily weighted in AH favour, it was hers to lose.
I don't know anyone in an abusive/violent relationship who would go out and buy a large dagger/knife, have it engraved and gift wrapped and present it to their abuser for their birthday! Just one of the many things that didn't add up. They were a toxic couple and should never have got together.

Anyway, back to BL/JB and I'm seeing photos of the New York film premiere and JB and his family had to go and sit in the basement (so he says) for an hour as BL said she and the cast didn't want to be seen with him and if he tried to join them they would boycott - that sounds absurd.! Who tells the director, at the premiere of his own film, that he and his family and friends need to sit it out in the basement for an hour (especially given JB was ponying up 50% of the tab for the evening!). Remind me whose film it is? I'm intrigued now to hear BL version of events, but certainly sounds like there are boundary/control issues with both of them.

FishBowlSwimmer · 24/01/2025 00:00

Babybaby2025 · 23/01/2025 22:30

The judge found that 12 of the 14 alleged incidents of abuse were proven to a civil standard. Many of the evidence used in this trial was omitted in the US trial, due to depps very savvy legal team. Depp fans post trial clubbed together to purchase the omitted evidence in hope they could further add to their amber heard hate pile on, but were very quick to pretend what they discovered never existed.

This was a case brought by Depp against the press, it had nothing to do with the truthfulness of what AH said. Although she gave evidence, the fact that the judge found in favour of the press isn't the vindication of AH you believe it is. She wasn't on trial, she had no obligation to prove what she said was true because she was only a witness. When she was expected to prove her version of events in court in the USA, she couldn't, in fact when JD was allowed to provide evidence of her lies it was obvious to anyone who wasn't biased she was lying. He wasn't allowed to present his evidence against AH at the UK trial because AH wasn't the defendant. I don't particularly like either of them but facts are facts.

You can purchase evidence that a judge has declared should be omitted for privacy reasons?

Vegandiva · 24/01/2025 00:10

laurwalsh · 23/01/2025 18:23

For all the man haters that seem to have flocked to this post please watch Meghan Kelly sum the whole thing up here to Ben Shapiro and then please just go away!

This is not the mic drop you think it is, the guy representing Justin Baldoni is also the lawyer that negotiated a huge settlement for Megyn Kelly when she left NBC and she has him on retainer. She also tends to side with men in these matters, seems to be her brand. She is literally just parroting whatever the Bryan Freedman / JB claims are.

CookieCrumbles23 · 24/01/2025 00:39

I find Blake Lively very complicated. On one hand, she is the woman who praised someone who ‘allegedly’ abused his adoptive daughter, and went on to marry his other adoptive daughter. If you’ve ever watched Dylan’s interviews, it would be hard to respect this man or publicly praise him after hearing this poor woman’s sickening experiences as a child. BL really ought to reflect on this considering the position she now finds herself in now.

On the other hand, although I dislike her immensely and I’m unsure if her other claims are true, she does appear uncomfortable in the video. I think it’s quite obvious. Unlike her, I can’t witness another woman’s discomfort and act oblivious.

Willyoujustbequiet · 24/01/2025 01:19

laurwalsh · 22/01/2025 20:45

Has anyone seen the video footage that totally proves Blake Lively was lying about her accusations of Justin Baldoni. Total Amber Heard vibes from this and it's scary to think how many cases that can't be proved have destroyed men's lives.

Scary to think how many cases that cant be proved have destroyed men's lives?

The irony of this comment!

Are you familiar with rape stats and the overwhelming majority of rapists who get away with it?

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:29

Coldanddamp · 22/01/2025 22:10

Very bad move releasing that clip, it proves nothing, makes him look manipulative and abusive by releasing it.

I don't really understand this narrative. If one person alleges something why can't the other side give their version? It's not manipulation to want to defend yourself

Except he’s not defending himself. He’s been accused of sexual harrasment. This video doesn’t refute that in any way. It’s him going “Look she isn’t running away screaming she must be lying”. Which in 2025 we should know better than to believe it’s all that easy. We should know there’s no perfect way for a victim to behave before they become a valid victim

And it’s damaging AF by the way. The whole concept that women can’t be victims if they’ve ever been nice to their perpetrator is the reason so few rapists are convicted, so few women believed and even why child abusers get away with their crimes. So let’s just stop it at every level, shall we

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/01/2025 01:32

it's scary to think how many cases that can't be proved have destroyed men's lives.

Men's lives aren't. Women's lives are.

Blake lively
JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:34

Coldanddamp · 22/01/2025 22:29

I think the pillow poop didn't help Amber Heard.

Johnny Depp was an alcoholic. 3 symptoms of alcoholism: incontinence, memory loss and violent denial about doing anything wrong.

Any half wit can see it was him who shit himself. But people love Jack Sparrow so we’re happy to believe it couldn’t be their beloved Jack

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:38

JaneBoleynViscountessRochford · 22/01/2025 23:05

This whole case just seems like two absolute horrors of people coming into each others orbit and each thinking that they can destroy the other.

The thing with BL is that if she was a nice, decent person and not in fact a complete dick in interviews (her answer about what she would say to someone who disclosed abuse to her for example) there wouldn’t have been as much ammunition to use against her. The thing about her dragons (Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift?) shows the type of person she is, hiding behind her far more famous family and friends.

JB seems like a total sleaze ball and control freak.

Neither will come out of this looking good.

That question asked to her was fucking stupid and deserved a stupid answer. Robert Downey Jr never got asked how people worried about terrorism should find him. I like that BL asserts her boundaries and doesn’t sinker to stupid men

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:47

LightUpMyStars · 23/01/2025 13:32

Good point re Chris Brown etc,
Jack Nicholson doesn't seem to have been vilified after assaulting a woman to the point of permanent brain damage and a ruptured breast implant. I don't recall his reputation being in tatters and his career over.

Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist and adored the world over.

But oh no a woman made a mean comment once upon a time (to a journalist who seems to have a knack of pissing celebrities off) so who’s the real villain here?

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:50

ElatedShark · 23/01/2025 15:10

I saw the video and am not sure what to think. I am leaning more to believing she wanted an affair and he wasn't into it so she went scorched earth on his reputation.
She has a rep for that

It probably doesn't help with the blinds about her husband, H and their mates ALLEGEDLY

Yes sounds plausible. She’s a married mother of 4 and she wanted an affair with someone she barely knew, he knocked her back and so she magically made him sexually harrass her just so she could get revenge.

Get real. Whoever said witch trials is right

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:52

laurwalsh · 23/01/2025 18:23

For all the man haters that seem to have flocked to this post please watch Meghan Kelly sum the whole thing up here to Ben Shapiro and then please just go away!

No we won’t go away. MN doesn’t work like that. You can’t have a tantrum because nobody agrees with your idiotic stance

Can I ask you and anyone else defending Baldoni - have you at any point ever had any introspection since finding out he paid a fortune for a PR company to wage a smear campaign? Have you ever thought “Hmm maybe I’m wrong and just fell for what I was being fed?”. Or is it just a coincidence that you thought this off your own volition?

JandamiHash · 24/01/2025 01:54

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/01/2025 20:16

Paul Bethany.

One message, sent in 2013, made lewd reference to Heard’s “beaver”, and discussed her murder by “burning” or “drowning”.
“I’m not sure we should burn Amber,” wrote Bettany. “She is delightful company and pleasing on the eye. We could of course do the English course of action and perform a drowning test. Thoughts? You have a swimming pool.”
Depp replied: “Let’s drown her before we burn her!!! I will fuck her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead.”
To which Bettany apparently wrote back: “My thoughts entirely. Let’s be certain before we pronounce her a witch.”

What a total innocent little lamb victim Johnny Depp is

DreamTheMoors · 24/01/2025 02:45

I don’t know either person.
However, I do know that almost all the people involved in this have backed Lively.
I know that the New York Times wrote a factual account of the situation and Baldoni sued the paper for slander.
I know that every time a woman - be they famous or somebody like you or me - befalls something like this, she has to endure a shitload of abuse from every direction.
And this time it was orchestrated.
And I know that whether people realise it or not, they’re taking part in that orchestration.

Fingerscrossedfor2021HK · 24/01/2025 03:12

I am bemused by all of this. If you actually read the filings you can see that many of BL’s allegations are wholly refuted by the written (contemporaneous) evidence which takes the form of texts and emails. Maybe Baldoni was a bit of a sleaze (not uncommon in Hollywood or anywhere else, quite frankly). But based on the documents BL appears to have a rather tenuous relationship with the truth.

Re the video, they look uncomfortable because they are trying to talk while shooting a dance scene - he is in character, hence why he looks sleazy (that it literally the point of that character). The conversation doesn’t seem as if lively was uncomfortable - I actually agree with her that it’s sexier to show the moment before a kiss. So I don’t think that’s her trying to get out of kissing him. More to the point, she is the bigger star - if she was uncomfortable she would have been able to voice her concerns (she literally did so multiple times re wardrobe!)

My sense is that Blake Lively is a bit of a twat and so is JB. That’s not illegal. But she has overplayed her hand by alleging sexual harassment to try to distract from her tone deaf behaviour and previous bad behaviour in interviews. Making up allegations against others is (rightly) an offence. From what I have seen so far, there is no evidence of Baldoni being anything other than a typical (annoying) Hollywood type. I sort of hope to be proven wrong in due course because I hate the idea that someone would make up this sort of thing in order to save face, but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think that on the balance of probabilities JB did what BL is alleging.

Selfishly, I am just annoyed as I used to enjoy following Blake on IG because we look pretty similar in terms of build and colouring and I used to shamelessly copy her fashion (okay, not the mega diamonds) as it’s nice to see a Hollywood actress with a normal figure…