To wonder if Starmer can survive the vibe-shift?

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Trump has been going hell for leather since his inauguration it seems, things are changing fast - Trump likes the UK, but he doesn't like Starmer. Starmer seems out of sync with the changing tide, and seems (to me) to get it wrong and make it worse everytime he opens his mouth. AIBU in wondering how long Starmer can hang on?

Only polls I care about are in 31/2years time. I literally don’t care at this stage of the game. All I care about is a government brave enough to get the country back on track whatever it takes which is what we’ve got.

Don’t remember you hiding or accepting the Tory’s dire popularity the past few years.

@pointythings good try..

I've said it could get worse, unless you think you know for sure that won't happen, that's true.

All I care about is a government brave enough to get the country back on track whatever it takes which is what we’ve got.

Well that's a minority opinion rn, your belief isn't felt by many

Besides how does shrinking the private sector, lose jobs and stall growth do that exactly?

It could also get better. The difference between us is that I'm not constantly doomposting on every single anti Starmer thread that appears on this forum. My attitude is and always has been a matter of let's see, let's give them a chance.

Have you actually been checking in with the media, polls, news, recently?

@pointythings again good try with the attack lines

I'll post where I wish and if you can't bear any negativity over Labour I suggest you avoid everything bar those Labour threads where you all agree they're doing great.

There's a whole commentary out there that show you're in the minority.

@EasternStandard I have no idea why you are perceiving my posts as an attack - possibly this says something about your mindset? You can post what you want and where you want.

As for public opinion - if there's one thing you can be sure about, it's that it's a fickle beast. If the economy turns around and people have more money in their pocket and are happier, it will change. Which is why making policy based on popularity, media perceptions and polls is such a bad idea.

@pointythings of course you have no idea, perhaps that says something about your mindset.

As for policy why is shrinking the private sector good for growth exactly?

Take the recent loss of 3000 jobs from Sainsbury's due to the budget, why is that a good outcome?

@EasternStandard Sainsbury's cafe closure is long planned & part of an ongoing cost reduction drive.

This!

Ours which be is one on the list has been empty for years. Barely anybody uses it.

Private sector firms expect activity to fall in the three months to March (weighted balance of -24%), according to the CBI’s latest Growth Indicator. Expectations are now at their weakest in over two years.

This pessimism was shared across all sub-sectors. Business volumes in the services sector are anticipated to decline (-18%), driven by predicted falls in both business and professional services (-13%) and consumer services (-37%). Distribution sales are expected to fall steeply (-35%), and manufacturers also anticipate output to fall (-31%), with expectations at their weakest since May 2020.
Why is this good exactly?

Do you really think people who didn't vote for Labour are ex Tory voters centrists, Remain voters are going to be voting for Reform? Seriously?

But the logic doesn't follow that Reform will be the answer to the nation's prayers. Sorry but that is delusionary!

But the logic doesn't follow that Reform will be the answer to the nation's prayers. Sorry but that is delusionary!

How is that an answer on the economic impact of the budget? I didn't mention Reform in that post.

What has Reform got to do with this post?

Oh apologies, I thought you were a Reform Champion!

What has Reform got to do with this post?

Again, apologies, I interpreted your comments as a Reform Champion..

Hold your horses, no need to post twice, I've just responded to you.

Again, apologies, I interpreted your comments as a Reform Champion..

You what now?

Labour's budget impact is in that post, any comment on why you see that as good?

I haven't said I'd vote for Reform, others would at a greater rate hence the recent poll shift. Even the most loyal Labour voters can see their support is dropping.. (well maybe not you)

Also your posts are odd you do realise you are responding to two posters

@Goldenbear it wasn’t my post. You posted twice about Reform in reply to different posters (not me), neither who had mentioned Reform in their posts.

I'm not a Labour voter, there was no pint in my constituency.

I just go the impression you are/were championing their vibe but obviously not.

Oh, did I.

Please see answer above, what is the big deal, I got confused.

I can tell.