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The brainlessness of an English Tutor. Fuming

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crazymomma93 · 20/01/2025 19:22

Long time lurker, please bear with me.
My DD12 has been having some issues with her reading book. It has been making her feel uncomfortable, from the Genre and style of writing. So I have looked into it, got a jist of the book, she has pointed out some bits that made her uneasy and I looked up the age rating which was 14+. Now typically if you knew me, you would know I am not "that Mom" but I emailed her Form Tutor to ask if there was an alternative. Tutor emailed back after talking to English dept and DD dosn't need to read the book any longer, she can bring in her own. No problem. My DD has just told me she spoke with her own English Tutor, the day before I sent the email to tell her Form Tutor. After listening to DD, English Tutor responds "it's just words"
ITS JUST WORDS? Sorry is that not pretty much the Tutors whole career, teaching English?
I need calming because I am close to emailing said teacher calling her a c**t, because, you know "it's just words". See how her feelings are when she reads something that makes her uncomfortable.
My DD turned to her to ask because the book was making her uneasy and that is the response. What about children who get verbally bullied? Where is this Womans morals. AIBU?

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Platypuslover · 22/01/2025 00:41

Also don’t get this waste of valuable learning time with form class. 🙄

if they did less box ticking and pointless admin to keep useless middle management kids could learn twice as much in half the time.

JudgeJ · 22/01/2025 00:46

Isinglass20 · 21/01/2025 18:25

I remember my childhood friend recommending I read Forever Amber and dog eared the pages with the sexy bits of the story. We were 12 or 13. I was petrified in case my mum found the book. This was the 1950’s.
This thread took me right back. Those were the days 😄

And Peyton Place, that was another we read at about that age too!

JudgeJ · 22/01/2025 00:56

Platypuslover · 22/01/2025 00:41

Also don’t get this waste of valuable learning time with form class. 🙄

if they did less box ticking and pointless admin to keep useless middle management kids could learn twice as much in half the time.

You really think that the 'useless middle management ' want all the box ticking?

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 22/01/2025 01:28

All this "age guidance" talk - this book has had 3 different age guidances just in this thread. 14 in one location, 13 on another and 12 in one country

See how it makes it difficult?

ForQuirkyFawn · 22/01/2025 01:30

WHATS THE F BOOK...Hahaha 🙂

Wasptv · 22/01/2025 06:25

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Shotokan101 · 22/01/2025 06:32

So what time do you stop your DD watching TV then, and/or turn off her internet/social media access? 🤔

Tristan5 · 22/01/2025 06:50

pollymere · 22/01/2025 00:09

Speaking as an Ex English Teacher... I would not expect, or indeed allow, my class or tutor group to read a book with a recommended age two years higher than their actual age. I suspect this has been chosen by one person in the Department for each year group without really thinking it through. My tutor group often got wholly inappropriate book suggestions from my colleagues.

In this instance, I don't think you are "that Mom". You need to speak to the Head/Principal about this as the Head of Department clearly hasn't. Schools usually have strict safeguarding rules around age appropriateness and this applies to literature as well as visual media or music.

I wouldn't expect a 12 year old to be reading Clarissa or Tom Jones either and those are classis literature (first one has a girl pinned down and raped in it, the second he's a serial philanderer if anyone asks 😂). This isn't about censorship anymore than giving a movie an 18 rating.

How long have you been teaching?

You sound extremely naive, happily making assumptions and judging a situation you know nothing about.

And how dare you undermine your colleagues on a forum, how rude and disrespectful is that?

You’d be slaughtered in the staffroom if that got out!

On a separate, but perhaps interesting note, your writing style is repetitive and not what I would expect of an English teacher …..

‘I bla bla…..’, ‘I bla bla ….’

This reflects a sense of self-importance, of someone more than a little condescending who thinks they should be running the school.

Jamandbreadsupper · 22/01/2025 07:09

You do realise that no bad words can be said about teachers on here don’t you. Teachers are saints and can do no wrong!
I’ve seen it all and if I see any hint of the behaviour I’ve experienced and seen happen in my time I will be that parent. Don’t feel bad for looking out for your kid.

RedSkyDelights · 22/01/2025 07:37

Jamandbreadsupper · 22/01/2025 07:09

You do realise that no bad words can be said about teachers on here don’t you. Teachers are saints and can do no wrong!
I’ve seen it all and if I see any hint of the behaviour I’ve experienced and seen happen in my time I will be that parent. Don’t feel bad for looking out for your kid.

Maybe read the OP's updates?

Bogartme · 22/01/2025 07:53

I get what you're saying but there is no way my kids are watching that rubbish either! And they wouldn't want to. It all seems a bit 'race to the bottom', as if they're bound to instantly be exposed to all the horrific crap immediately they step out of primary, so why even bother. There can be challenging stuff without being hideous.

Wasptv · 22/01/2025 07:53

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MariCooyong · 22/01/2025 08:20

Why are you using ‘Mom’ not ‘Mum’? Don’t words matter?

Sennelier1 · 22/01/2025 08:21

Unless the teacher is making your child read the how-many-was-it degrees of Grey, yes, you are very unreasonable. It's not because your child feels uncomfortable about a book that the choice of book is inappropriate. Maybe your child is not much of a reader and used to simple books below her age-mark, but if the age rating is 14+ I suppose it can't be about violence, sex&gore. Try and read the book together with your child if that makes her more secure, but stop making her an exception in her class, the one who doesn't have to read her assigned book.

Bogartme · 22/01/2025 08:31

Sennelier1 · 22/01/2025 08:21

Unless the teacher is making your child read the how-many-was-it degrees of Grey, yes, you are very unreasonable. It's not because your child feels uncomfortable about a book that the choice of book is inappropriate. Maybe your child is not much of a reader and used to simple books below her age-mark, but if the age rating is 14+ I suppose it can't be about violence, sex&gore. Try and read the book together with your child if that makes her more secure, but stop making her an exception in her class, the one who doesn't have to read her assigned book.

But this is the all or nothing approach I can't understand. Six weeks after they finish primary school, so long as it's not Fifty Shades of Grey, anything goes? Anyone trying to acknowledge that there is a difference between 11 and 14+ is just getting swiped.

yaysummerisover · 22/01/2025 08:38

Oh my days and yes everyone that’s why all these children as so pathetic these days. People like you are the biggest problem with this Country. People like you are at the heart of Racism oh my goodness I wish people would just man up. What happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me. Grow up and teach your little precious people say horrible things but who cares call me old old fat ugly whatever. The only people who have a problem are the very ones who like to make a scene and jump on the band wagon of I’m so offended. Oh to go back to the old days back then funnily enough we didn’t have all these problems we didn’t do knife/gang culture maybe because people like you didn’t stand in the way of common sense. But here we go another righteous woke numpty getting her 2 pence in to feel important

Lovedogwalking · 22/01/2025 08:42

You might have to just let it go unfortunately, as in choose your battles wisely.

ThinkingAboutMyLifeChoices · 22/01/2025 08:42

OP are you going to wade in and call everyone a cunt every time your Daughter feels uncomfortable about something?

We've all been pushed out of our comfort zone at times, it's nothing to get hysterical over

Life lessons

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ThinkingAboutMyLifeChoices · 22/01/2025 08:49

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Oops
Maybe I should have read the thread 🤣

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CurlewKate · 22/01/2025 08:59

I certainly believe that it's OK to abandon a book you find too upsetting- my DS was a precocious reader and had free access to the school library very early, and I certainly kept an eye on what he chose and vetoed a couple.

Also, "It's just words" would be entirely appropriate to use as part of a conversation with a child who has been upset or scared by a book. Please note my use of the word "part"!

ThanksItHasPockets · 22/01/2025 09:01

MariCooyong · 22/01/2025 08:20

Why are you using ‘Mom’ not ‘Mum’? Don’t words matter?

Perhaps she is from the West Midlands and therefore using the usual dialect of her region.

Sennelier1 · 22/01/2025 09:07

Bogartme · 22/01/2025 08:31

But this is the all or nothing approach I can't understand. Six weeks after they finish primary school, so long as it's not Fifty Shades of Grey, anything goes? Anyone trying to acknowledge that there is a difference between 11 and 14+ is just getting swiped.

I think she said the girl is 12, not 11. And she's in secondary school. Where I live (Belgium) 14 years is still youth-literature, not yet young-adult, so I wouldn't hesitate to give her a book for age group 14+ We believe it is good to let children "stand on their toes" a bit, as in trying to read something slightly above their age. Much more motivating and academically more interesting than to continue reading nursery rimes (as a figure of speech). My grandson is 7, an avid reader. Right now he reads The 13-Storey Treehouse (Andy Griffiths and Terry Denton's), he's on book 4. But he also tries to read The Hobbit (after his dad read it for him at bedtime). We let him try, of course!

saraclara · 22/01/2025 09:09

ThanksItHasPockets · 22/01/2025 09:01

Perhaps she is from the West Midlands and therefore using the usual dialect of her region.

Yep, this happens every single time someone from the West Midlands refers to their mother on Mumsnet.

I'd have thought that the message would have got through to the pedants by now.