That picture of the Southport killer

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That has been circulating today.

Remember that sweet boy that was in all the reports at the time? The one who looked about nine?

Can anyone think of any other serious criminal who has pictures of them as a child out in the press?

He surely must have mental health issues.

Nobody of sound mind fantasises about violence , or commits violence and targets innocent young vulnerable children {Or adults}.

That could almost describe half the mass school massacres in the US.

Or incel attacks.

I’m sure they all had MH difficulties…. 🙄

They get whatever photo they can.

If he had no parents or they were crap, then it’s unlikely he has any photos apart from that one (or that they can get hold of).

Most people will have social media and the media will take it off there but if he didn’t have that then they obviously can’t.

Where do you think the photos come from?
Not everyone has photos of themselves, especially if they are as messed up as this guy.

They didn’t actually do any photo for a while and then everyone was making up their own minds about what race he was etc and so they had no choice but to release one.

And of course, the first paper to release one, the more views and money they get.

Now there are court drawings of him, you will see those images mores.

But you cannot magic up a photo of someone looking deranged if there isn’t one.

Played how? What is benefit of pointing out someone may have MH issues to 'the left'.

Makes you wonder why we have prisons at alll…

Mass murdering children is hardly the action of someone with a sane mind is it. By the very nature of some crimes it's obvious there must be MH issues of some sort.

You can use that argument for most murderers though as it isn't normal.

Where's your evidence?

Who did? What does this refer to - the use of his younger childhood photos in the media? They seem to have been the only photos available.

We’ve never posted our children’s photos on social media. God forbid if they committed some heinous crime aged 17 there would be thin pickings to use as a photo unless someone gave / sold a photo taken at school as seems to have been the case with the photo prominently used.

Makes you wonder why we have prisons at alll…

quite

He surely must have mental health issues.

Nobody of sound mind fantasises about violence , or commits violence and targets innocent young vulnerable children {Or adults}.

People shouldn't speculate as such. He did not plead based on lack of sound mind.

@ByQuaintAzureWasp He wasn't expected to plead guilty and it was assumed a trial would happen.

And the fact he wasn’t attending any mosques, or announcing at the scene that it was an Islamic terrorist attack?
His goal was terror, full stop.

Probably found it on his school’s social media or maybe a family member’s Facebook page.

Was he also an IRA member?

He also had IRA material. Are you going to say he’s an IRA terrorist?

Why would anyone have sympathy for someone who comitted such a heinous crime pictures or not.

Society cant have it both ways, there a reams and reams of people complaining that someone like this has 'fallen through the net' as if there was a way to fix this person.

Was there? He was obsessed with death, killing, knives, weapons, violence.

What treatment programme do you think would be appropriate here? Forcibly drugging him with medication? Asking him to reflect on his thoughts and have self awareness?

The reality is you either take proactive steps to try to second guess who is going to go on to carry out their obsessions, which includes things you never hear about in the press because there simply too much of it, people obsessed with sexual assault, child abusers, violent abusers, or you wait until its happened and it results in the end of someones life

What do we want?

@HollyBerryz to pussy foot around the fact he was an Islamic extremist. Rather than admit that non-white people can awful commit racial violence, it’s gentler to say he had mental health issues which takes away some responsibility for the crime

Least they have finally released his photo but I'm horrified he won't get a whole life sentence because he's under the age of 21. What a stupid regulation that is. Evil is evil it doesn't matter how old they are. He deserves a whole life sentence.

What does the US have to do with this

Not everyone is an American cheerleader

The people who murdered Brianna Ghey had MH issues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68184224

The press manipulated the public with the initial photos showing him as a child in order to down play the atrocity.

It is confirmed on the bbc that the court was informed back in August that he has an autistic spectrum disorder diagnosis. There are other signs that he was mentally unwell, refusing to leave the house, refusing to communicate with his family. I suspect there will be a lot of blame placed on camhs when the inquiry is finished.