What age/year at school, would you put my Dc ar?

[Nonstoprain]

Looking at this?

My son will be five soon and cannot read or write anything like this. He knows the alphabet and can copy words but no "comprehension" as such. He hasn't started school as also not in UK. I think he is doing well as far as I know!! Well done to your daughter!!

My DD is 5, in Reception, reads at Year 2 level, writes like a 3 year old!! It's shockingly bad. Like you literally cannot read it, even when you know what it is supposed to be.

She writes nearly every day, and it's only just getting vaguely legible when she's sitting, focused and using the "correct" pencil.

Why are you actually thinking or possibly worrying about this, OP? @Nonstoprain

She isnt at school yet.

Given the information you’ve given I wouldn’t worry. Children in school systems that start later catch up with and often surpass British children with our earlier formal start to education.

Well of course her writing and spelling might be a little behind others who only speak one language. It’s not comparable really

Using phonics, taught by me, her reading is great. Her writing isn’t, but i’ve tried not to step in and teach it her, even though i’ve been itching to!

Because I don’t want her to be behind, I worry we aren’t making the right decision educationally, I worry if we bring her back to the uk, she would be behind…lots of reasons

OP she's still very young. DS really struggled with reading and writing at school, despite having a very good vocabulary and being mature in his speech. He didn't make much progress till high school and miraculously ended up with two sevens in his GCSEs. She's still got lots of time to progress and catch up.

That should say in his English GCSEs. Kids progress at different rates. He was also very good at maths at primary but turned out to be fairly mediocre in the subject at high school.

Anything up to Y2. I'd be thinking they needed support if they were in Y3. Ideally, Reception or Y1.

I did guess before RTWT. It's fair for six but not great. She could do with practising letter formation. I do wonder how you measured reading age - sounding out words isn't reading them. I'd be extremely surprised if she had a reading age higher than seven.

I'd be interested to know what the evidence for this is.
My children are bilingual English/Spanish. They go to a 90 min Spanish class every Saturday morning, where they are reading/writing/speaking and their Spanish dad speaks to them exclusively in Spanish at home. No issues with their Spanish.
There haven't been any issues with their work in English at school.
They are 4 and just turned 6.

I agree ⬆️

Don't worry about it. She's writing and reading. It will all come in time.
The letters will be correctly formed and the right way round one day and, there'll be other kids that will have never written a word.

Year 1

She'll catch up really quickly, she'll be ahead in other things. They all even out in the end.

4/5

I used the same reading age assessment I used when I was a class teacher. I’m aware that just sounding out words is not reading them!
Did you read the whole thread and why her handwriting pales in comparison? She’s never been taught how to write properly.

Why would you be ‘Extremely surprised?’

Your daughter could do that independently, including the spelling, in nursery?!

If so, I’d be contacting Mensa!

At my child’s preschool, the best writer is able to write dog, and not great handwriting.

The reading ability is good- It’s so important to be able to read fluently, and sounds like you have done a good job👍

It was me who mentioned the bitten nails, @Nonstoprain - I didn’t look at the rest of the hand much, just noticed the nails and thought the child might be anxious- Hope you aren’t anxious 🫣!
I have known people bite their nails at school as a stress relief, almost without thinking.

(Their parents bought them bitter aloes to paint on their nails- but it didn’t seem to work much.)😅

My nails just never seem to grow really and I have the odd nibble…terrible really 😬 😅

I'd buy her a handwriting practice book and get her practising letter shapes. I don't see anything wrong with that.

This is fine, as long as it is the correct script. DS has learnt something called Basisschrift, the G is unlike anything I have ever seen before! If I had taught him how I learnt to write a G, it would have been ‘wrong’. His school is strict on this, but obviously it might be different where OP lives