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Odd girl in daughters class

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Scottishbornandbread43 · 20/01/2025 05:33

Daughter is in primary school and has always had a nice group of friends.
There is a girl in her class that is a bit strange (sorry please don’t think im
being mean). She talks and sings to herself at inappropriate times, she chews everything and leaves bite marks on everything including other people’s property- her conversations are odd - constantly talking about bugs, she asks my daughter every day if she’s had her period yet (daughter is 10). There is a list of strange things this girl does.

My daughter felt sorry for her as no one played with her but now my daughter has found her other friends now don’t want to play with her.

My daughter spoke to me over the weekend and said she doesn’t want to be friends with this girl anymore but says she follows her around saying ‘she worships her’ (which I think is bizarre)and doesn’t want to be told off for telling her to leave her alone.

I feel sorry for this girl as did my daughter but I don’t think my daughter realised how intense she would become.

any advise? My daughter tried being kind but is now so upset as she doesn’t want be unkind to her but she just wants some space from her

OP posts:
Scottishbornandbread43 · 20/01/2025 07:38

I have no idea if this child has been diagnosed with something so that is why is used the word odd.

it is not my place or business to assume someone has asd/autism etc…

she may not be sen and therefore I am ok using the word odd

OP posts:
Rhinostone · 20/01/2025 07:38

Rosscameasdoody · 20/01/2025 07:30

This is just bollocks, sorry. I read the OP and the nanosecond l saw the word ‘odd’ l knew there would be a pile on. The way things are going future generations will all be dumb because there won’t be a single word left in the English language that doesn’t offend somebody.

What you are saying is bollocks.

The OP could have made the same post and described the behaviours using a different word without negative connotations.

Words matter, they always have. We don’t use words that currently are understood to be offensive, even if once they were fine.

You can clutch your pearls and lament how we cAn’T sAy nUFfiNk these days, but moving towards acceptance of the tapestry of life is only ever a good thing.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:40

Rhinostone · 20/01/2025 07:38

What you are saying is bollocks.

The OP could have made the same post and described the behaviours using a different word without negative connotations.

Words matter, they always have. We don’t use words that currently are understood to be offensive, even if once they were fine.

You can clutch your pearls and lament how we cAn’T sAy nUFfiNk these days, but moving towards acceptance of the tapestry of life is only ever a good thing.

What word should she have used?

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:40

Rosscameasdoody · 20/01/2025 07:26

Only on MN would one little word be so picked to pieces at the expense of actually addressing the OP’s concerns. OP wasn’t suggesting anything of what you’ve said here. From what she has said, the behaviour is odd, but it needs investigation before jumping to conclusions about the cause. You’re criticising OP for her words, which are measured, and she has explained that she doesn’t mean to offend. And yet you and others are very quick to assign an ND label to the behaviour without even having sight of the child.

Lots of people are addressing the OPs concern, so in a similar manner, I find it interesting how you have focused on the few “odd” related comments and not ALL the advice.

Also, it’s likely because we all have children and the thought of other children ostracising them in the playground due to their behaviour hurts. Let alone another damned grown adult insulting them. “Odd” can be insulting depending on the context. Said with a giggle by a friend, I wouldn’t even blink. Said with a condescending frown, Id think differently.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 20/01/2025 07:40

MassiveSalad22 · 20/01/2025 07:03

Yikes. That’s not a good look @LoudRoseGuide.

If that’s the case, OP is probably very conscious for her DD to not develop similar anxiety to her, therefore all the more motivated to look out for her DD and her friendships. So what?? That’s not a bad thing.

Yikes It’s not a good look to call a child odd.

maxwellparker77 · 20/01/2025 07:40

Scottishbornandbread43 · 20/01/2025 07:38

I have no idea if this child has been diagnosed with something so that is why is used the word odd.

it is not my place or business to assume someone has asd/autism etc…

she may not be sen and therefore I am ok using the word odd

You were correct using the word odd. No idea how people could be offended by that. The girl is displaying very odd behaviour.

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:40

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:40

What word should she have used?

She could have just described the behaviour?

oakleaffy · 20/01/2025 07:41

Talk5 · 20/01/2025 07:36

Year 6 teacher here...these kids know a lot of words/ things I'd never have known then but they would totally understand what worship means and in context in this way. I read it that the child with ASD said she worshipped OPs DD.

Girls of 10 certainly can worship each other .
A new girl came to school, she had beautiful handwriting and a pony called Prince - and was pretty worshipped!

romdowa · 20/01/2025 07:41

GoldVermillion · 20/01/2025 07:30

Jesus Christ!

"Lumbered"?

What about dealing with the clear fact that the entire class are a bunch of bullying twats who need to ALL learn to be kinder to people who are different but harmless? What about inclusivity? What about it not being ok to ostracise anyone who is nice enough to be kind to the person who is a bit different?

And you are a teacher!!??!

Children shouldn't be made to accept feeling uncomfortable, no matter the reason why the other person is behaving in that way. I'm nd myself but I wouldn't allow my child to be made to feel this way. It's sad for the little girl but ops daughter is not a support worker nor are the other children in the class.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:41

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:40

She could have just described the behaviour?

The odd behaviour?

Rosscameasdoody · 20/01/2025 07:41

Tiddlywinkly · 20/01/2025 07:32

This

So where has OP shamed and excluded the child for something that is intrinsic to her being - given that we know nothing about her except for behaviour that sets her aside from her classmates ? I’d say the labelling as ND going on here without even sight of the child is much more damaging than anything the OP has said. She’s taken the behaviour at face value - odd. Dictionary definition ‘different to what is usual or expected’. Her DD has come to her to say she’s unhappy about the childs’ behaviour and the fact that she’s attaching herself to DD, and all people can do is pull OP apart for her words.

Behindthethymes · 20/01/2025 07:42

GoldVermillion · 20/01/2025 07:18

So hang on.
The girl is "odd" and a bit intense but not evil or bad.
Your daughter was kind and this child has latched on.
As a result none of the other girls will now play with your daughter and so she thinks she needs to cast the "odd" girl adrift
And 2 pages in not one other comment talks about the shocking behaviour of the other girls in the class, ganging up to ostracise someone who is different, AND anyone who is kind to her?

Damn right I would be having a word with the teacher. She has a lot more to deal with than how to support OP's daughter to extract herself from being kind to this girl.

^this

expect to have to fight for support here op. There’s precious little for the dc with diagnoses. I would be challenging the school to tackle it as a group bullying issue because there are policies that can be potentially referenced, challenged and escalated.

From the other side of this issue: my df endured this pattern throughout school of being befriended by people who thought she just needed their friendship to change, and being dumped brutally when she didn’t. The class bonded over her weirdness. It profoundly damaged her.

I’ve noticed much more tolerance in teenagers today when they have precise language to understand what they’re seeing. It might help your daughter a lot to be able to name what she’s seeing accurately.

Louisetheroux · 20/01/2025 07:42

What's "odd" is that anybody in 2025 wouldn't realise that the child is neurodivergent, and so write a more neutral title. Goady title. Goady thread.

Scottishbornandbread43 · 20/01/2025 07:43

Ok I’m going leave this here now- thank you for those that have advice I will speak to the teacher.

OP posts:
Sassybooklover · 20/01/2025 07:43

You need to speak to your daughter's class teacher. Yes, I would say the other child is likely SEN but your daughter has the right to choose who she wishes to play with. I work in a First school myself (non-teaching role) and our school wouldn't 'force' another child to play with another, just because the child is SEN! This other child has become intense and your daughter is now uncomfortable (most children would feel this way). The school need to intervene, and extract your daughter from the situation, in a way that's kind to the other child but equally is putting boundaries in place. In the first instance speak to your daughter's class teacher, if things don't improve, then go to the Headteacher.

Rhinostone · 20/01/2025 07:43

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:33

Asking someone if they have a period is not appropriate behaviour and not intrinsic to someone's being. Kids learn appropriate behaviour when others react negatively to bad behaviour.

Edited

Is it? I don’t think it’s at all unusual for kids on the cusp of puberty to ask each other if they’ve started yet. I remember periods being quite frightening because they weren’t normalised to me. I say more openness and discussion around them is a good thing.

NB we are also trying to move on, as a society, from shaming women for their natural processes. See also: menopause.

Oreyt · 20/01/2025 07:43

Why do people jump in to say we are offended.
Just because something is questioned it doesn't mean we take it personally.

It's not a nice way of describing someone. That's it.

You could just say "Girl in DD's class"

Rosscameasdoody · 20/01/2025 07:44

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:40

She could have just described the behaviour?

That’s odd - l thought she did.

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:45

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:41

The odd behaviour?

She’s 10. Who demeans a 10 year old?

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:45

Rhinostone · 20/01/2025 07:43

Is it? I don’t think it’s at all unusual for kids on the cusp of puberty to ask each other if they’ve started yet. I remember periods being quite frightening because they weren’t normalised to me. I say more openness and discussion around them is a good thing.

NB we are also trying to move on, as a society, from shaming women for their natural processes. See also: menopause.

Asking repeatedly everyday when the other girl is uncomfortable is absolutely inappropriate. As is leaving bite marks on other people's property.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:45

Workhardcryharder · 20/01/2025 07:45

She’s 10. Who demeans a 10 year old?

Hardly demeaning.

waterrat · 20/01/2025 07:46

there are some typically nasty comments on here 'it's none of your concern if the child has any needs'

er, actually we live in a society - and your child is part of a group of children - I tend to think it is part of how we approach issues to think about the needs of others too.

the teacher will be well used to dealing with issues like this and the first place I would start is with her/him

Han86 · 20/01/2025 07:46

Yes speak to the teacher. They may have a lunch club they can direct the girl to (we have a lunch club available for children who find social times tricky, this includes ND and NT children and is invitation only, so teachers need to know about any social difficulties as they might think it's nice that the 'odd' girl is making friends).

TaggieO · 20/01/2025 07:47

YABVU to label a child who clearly has SEN as “odd” and “strange”.

MinnieBalloon · 20/01/2025 07:48

Honestly I would have been telling my daughter to keep her distance all this time. No good can come from a “friendship” like this.

Since that hasn’t been discouraged though and you’re now a little stuck I would just encourage her to be polite but firm. “No thank you, I don’t want to play.” Or “I would like some space please.”

If the boundaries are ignored she will have to stop being so polite.

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