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Odd girl in daughters class

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Scottishbornandbread43 · 20/01/2025 05:33

Daughter is in primary school and has always had a nice group of friends.
There is a girl in her class that is a bit strange (sorry please don’t think im
being mean). She talks and sings to herself at inappropriate times, she chews everything and leaves bite marks on everything including other people’s property- her conversations are odd - constantly talking about bugs, she asks my daughter every day if she’s had her period yet (daughter is 10). There is a list of strange things this girl does.

My daughter felt sorry for her as no one played with her but now my daughter has found her other friends now don’t want to play with her.

My daughter spoke to me over the weekend and said she doesn’t want to be friends with this girl anymore but says she follows her around saying ‘she worships her’ (which I think is bizarre)and doesn’t want to be told off for telling her to leave her alone.

I feel sorry for this girl as did my daughter but I don’t think my daughter realised how intense she would become.

any advise? My daughter tried being kind but is now so upset as she doesn’t want be unkind to her but she just wants some space from her

OP posts:
WonderingWanda · 20/01/2025 06:54

Agree with others, speak to the teacher. But also want to state that I finding your use of the term odd to describe this child old fashioned and out of touch. Clearly she has some sort of neurodiversity and you might not have noticed but we don't label neurodiverse people as odd and keep them out of sight any more.

Sometimeswinning · 20/01/2025 06:55

This sounds exactly like a situation in my school. In fact the girl in questions sounds exactly the same. The difference is the group of girls recognise that they are allowed boundaries but also try their best to look out for her. When she gets too much they are very clear and walk away. If the girl wants to play and be with them they let her join.

I always thought they were a lovely lot with empathy and maturity beyond even some adults.

ThejoyofNC · 20/01/2025 06:57

WonderingWanda · 20/01/2025 06:54

Agree with others, speak to the teacher. But also want to state that I finding your use of the term odd to describe this child old fashioned and out of touch. Clearly she has some sort of neurodiversity and you might not have noticed but we don't label neurodiverse people as odd and keep them out of sight any more.

You're just making things up? Where did OP say anything about hiding the child from sight? She didn't even mention SEN at all in her post. The girls' behaviour is odd.

anotherside · 20/01/2025 07:02

ThejoyofNC · 20/01/2025 06:57

You're just making things up? Where did OP say anything about hiding the child from sight? She didn't even mention SEN at all in her post. The girls' behaviour is odd.

Obviously the advice to speak to the teacher is correct. But the behaviour isn’t necessarily “odd” for someone who is neurodiverse. Anymore than it’s odd for a blind person to use a dog to help them get around. Or “odd” for someone who is homosexual to be attracted to a person their own sex.

MassiveSalad22 · 20/01/2025 07:03

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 06:40

OP I was on your other thread and you have very serious and debilitating social anxiety, agoraphobia and OCD.

I am surprised that you surprise this child as “odd” given what you are enduring

Yikes. That’s not a good look @LoudRoseGuide.

If that’s the case, OP is probably very conscious for her DD to not develop similar anxiety to her, therefore all the more motivated to look out for her DD and her friendships. So what?? That’s not a bad thing.

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:07

MassiveSalad22 · 20/01/2025 07:03

Yikes. That’s not a good look @LoudRoseGuide.

If that’s the case, OP is probably very conscious for her DD to not develop similar anxiety to her, therefore all the more motivated to look out for her DD and her friendships. So what?? That’s not a bad thing.

I don’t like a child being described as “odd”

Oreyt · 20/01/2025 07:09

The "odd" in the title wasn't needed.

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:11

InDogweRust · 20/01/2025 06:48

Be prepared that the teacher may want dd to continue to be friends with the girl so you may need to be more forceful about your dd not being used as a companion.

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My niece ended up in a similar suggestion. The school had actually almost encouraged it, they were desperate for the other girl to have a friend and when she latched on to niece, kept partnering her with her. It was disastrous for my niece and damaged her own other friendships. Dsis had to go to the head about it because the teacher was basically forcing her daughter to be with this girl a lot because it made the teacher's life easier and was helpful to the other girl, she had completely ignored dniece's needs.

I had a similar situation with my child but school were much much better - they absolutely saw that the situation was difficult for my child and that it was leading to her isolation from other friends, and put a plan in place to help the other child become less dependent upon my child and to spread the burden out a bit as my child had reached a point where they felt they 'had' to be friends with this child as it would be 'unkind' not to.

Tiddlywinkly · 20/01/2025 07:12

Oreyt · 20/01/2025 07:09

The "odd" in the title wasn't needed.

Agree

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:14

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:07

I don’t like a child being described as “odd”

People need to stop being offended by words. The dictionary definition of 'odd' is 'different to what is usual or expected' what about that troubles you?
This childs behaviour is odd. Theres nothing wrong with stating that. If OP had used a word like 'weird' i'd agree with you but odd, no.

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:15

Oreyt · 20/01/2025 07:09

The "odd" in the title wasn't needed.

Why? It just means 'different to what is usual or expected'. Whats offensive about that?
Don't assign more meaning to a word than it has.

Rosscameasdoody · 20/01/2025 07:17

FrenchFancie · 20/01/2025 06:35

My daughter has ASC and honestly, would probably have been a bit much at times at primary school. She struggled to make friends and would not know how to interact with other children well. It’s hard, as a parent, to know what to do, because we are told that we should allow DD to be authentic and not mask (due to the mental strain it puts on her, which can lead to burnout). At the same time, if she is authentic then she would get called weird and odd and people don’t want to associate with her.

this child clearly has some form of ASC. Speak to your child’s teacher about helping your dd have some boundaries. But also speak to your daughter about difference and try to show tolerance when possible. Remember on the other side of this is another 10 year old girl who is probably well aware of how they aren’t tolerated in class, have few friends but has no idea how to change it or fix it to fit in better.

also think about your own language around this girl, using words like ‘strange’ and ‘odd’ is hugely hurtful, it’s not behaviour the girl can help or easily change. Try, if possible, to be more inclusive when speaking to your own daughter about her.

Gently, this little girls’ problems are not OP’s responsibility and neither does it fall to her DD to be a companion for this child, which from what OP has said, would be against her will and at the expense of her own friendship group. She needs to advocate for her DD, not the other child.

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:17

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:15

Why? It just means 'different to what is usual or expected'. Whats offensive about that?
Don't assign more meaning to a word than it has.

Look it up

“strange”

I do not like a child being described as odd

How would you feel if, let’s say, you heard a parent describing your child as “odd”?

Ohisthismynewname · 20/01/2025 07:18

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:14

People need to stop being offended by words. The dictionary definition of 'odd' is 'different to what is usual or expected' what about that troubles you?
This childs behaviour is odd. Theres nothing wrong with stating that. If OP had used a word like 'weird' i'd agree with you but odd, no.

👍

NameChangedOfc · 20/01/2025 07:18

Gumbuyahpark · 20/01/2025 06:04

I think it’s irrelevant what issues the other child has or does not have - OP’s number one concern is her own child and her own child is upset and wants space.

You are going to have to contact the teacher/school and be very clear that you want your child’s right to space to be respected as they will be reluctant to act to upset the SEN child.

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LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:18

Taigabread · 20/01/2025 07:15

Why? It just means 'different to what is usual or expected'. Whats offensive about that?
Don't assign more meaning to a word than it has.

You lifted the definition from Oxford dictionary but you omitted the next word in that definition you quote…. “Strange”

GoldVermillion · 20/01/2025 07:18

So hang on.
The girl is "odd" and a bit intense but not evil or bad.
Your daughter was kind and this child has latched on.
As a result none of the other girls will now play with your daughter and so she thinks she needs to cast the "odd" girl adrift
And 2 pages in not one other comment talks about the shocking behaviour of the other girls in the class, ganging up to ostracise someone who is different, AND anyone who is kind to her?

Damn right I would be having a word with the teacher. She has a lot more to deal with than how to support OP's daughter to extract herself from being kind to this girl.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:18

I'm confused as to why people are so offended by the word "odd". Seems a very tame and kind descriptor of this girls behaviour.

NameChangedOfc · 20/01/2025 07:20

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:18

I'm confused as to why people are so offended by the word "odd". Seems a very tame and kind descriptor of this girls behaviour.

Edited

Same here.
But then I am odd, so... 😂

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:20

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:18

I'm confused as to why people are so offended by the word "odd". Seems a very tame and kind descriptor of this girls behaviour.

Edited

I’m not offended
I don’t like a 10 year old child to be described as odd

and anyone who is 🤷 I’d be cool with my child being described by people as odd… is bull shitting

Sometimeswinning · 20/01/2025 07:21

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:18

I'm confused as to why people are so offended by the word "odd". Seems a very tame and kind descriptor of this girls behaviour.

Edited

Because it’s never used in a positive way. I think you’re odd to ask such an obvious thing. I definitely am not using that word positively about you. I mean there are a few other words I could also use.

GoldVermillion · 20/01/2025 07:23

@FrenchFancie
Masking is fine. We all mask. I don't sit burping and farting in work meetings, whereas I might while watching TV at home, nor do I discuss my dog's dodgy tummy with a client, whereas DH and I will.

Masking is only problematic when people don't have a space to be authentic and accepted in, which is what was historically the case for autistic people. As long as they have a space where they are accepted it's ok to learn aspects of cultural norms to smooth the wheels - that is after all what everyone does.

MaggieBsBoat · 20/01/2025 07:24

LoudRoseGuide · 20/01/2025 07:20

I’m not offended
I don’t like a 10 year old child to be described as odd

and anyone who is 🤷 I’d be cool with my child being described by people as odd… is bull shitting

Nah, my lovely daughter was described as odd a thousand times and frankly she was odd at school. When she was diagnosed with ASD at 10 nobody was surprised. Odd is very mild and there is nothing bad about being odd. I’m odd FFS.
So yeah you’re wrong.

As PPs have said, protect your dd first and foremost and speak to the school.

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 20/01/2025 07:24

Sometimeswinning · 20/01/2025 07:21

Because it’s never used in a positive way. I think you’re odd to ask such an obvious thing. I definitely am not using that word positively about you. I mean there are a few other words I could also use.

I call my own daughter odd in a positive way. I think it's quite a nice whimsical word.

Fountofwisdom · 20/01/2025 07:24

InDogweRust · 20/01/2025 06:48

Be prepared that the teacher may want dd to continue to be friends with the girl so you may need to be more forceful about your dd not being used as a companion.

This
My niece ended up in a similar suggestion. The school had actually almost encouraged it, they were desperate for the other girl to have a friend and when she latched on to niece, kept partnering her with her. It was disastrous for my niece and damaged her own other friendships. Dsis had to go to the head about it because the teacher was basically forcing her daughter to be with this girl a lot because it made the teacher's life easier and was helpful to the other girl, she had completely ignored dniece's needs.

Teacher here - unfortunately I see this happen a lot. It is more convenient for teachers to partner up an unpopular child with a kind, sympathetic one and they will often encourage that. But it is not in the kind child’s interests as they can then get lumbered and then find themselves ostracised, as seems to be the case here. OP definitely needs to speak to the class teacher and ask for her daughter to be seated away from the other child, and not paired with her for PE or classroom activities. It’s too much for her to navigate on her own at that age so support is needed.

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