What have I just seen:Trump

[Chinupandtitsout]

Just been sitting open-mouthed at his speach. Now it’s the Village People. Am
i living in augmented reality?

I dont recall the Nazis slapping their chest prior the salute….did they do that?

Indeed, and sometimes 2+2=5

@2dogsandabudgie no, he saluted.

@MyNameIsX yes. They did. It just shows your ignorance.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

‘Thank you for making it happen, my heart goes out to you’
E Musk

Versus

’Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe’.
A Hitler

Can we now get serious please.

Grow up FGS.

At least the thing yesterday was upbeat, unlike the speech that our PM gave at the start.

GameofPhones

The country depends on undocumented immigrants for labour. What will happen if they are all deported?

There was an expert on yesterday saying Americans won’t fill these jobs at the start so he predicted about two years of toughness for the country then a rise in employment BUT he did say Trump going two years with people unhappy is unlikely so catch 22

@CinnamonStick77

What about the pictures that Shayri posted, are they Nazi salutes?

I give up. I'll be hiding this thread because some of you are beyond reasoning with.

He's one of the wealthiest most influencial people on the planet. I doubt he's a moron. I doubt he makes any gesture on a public platform by accident.

“Not a good look”…. And that’s part of the problem with the “left”, constantly virtue signalling and over-interpreting and policing innocent actions and how they might “look” in case they “cause offence”.

I’ve seen the video and it doesn’t change my mind. A “nazi” salute requires intention - I don’t believe there was no such intention, any more than there was in the photos of Obama or Kamala apparently “saluting Hitler”.

Jonathan Pie's latest video is bloody excellent on YouTube about this.

Exactly what of that is hugely inflationary? People use phrases like "much of this" and "some of that" when they can't point to specifics. As for your conscription bs, if the government of a country declares their intention to embrace isolationism, taking them at their word is not an act of war. Nor does pretending that America's role in the last 80 years has been peacekeeper likely to wash with anyone with half a brain.

Ah, there you are.

You require a lesson in basic economics, I see. Free trade means that, in normally functioning markets, consumers are able to choose the most competitive product/service, globally. Seek to remove the world’s largest economy - the US - and inflation will naturally rise (less relevant for small economies of course).

With respect to your wish to see the US leave NATO, the US is the largest contributor to NATO’s budget by value (second only to Poland in %). At a time when all members are under pressure to increase their contribution, and in the face of global geopolitical tensions, an increase in funding would need a sharp increase in public spending by the remaining members, in turn raising demand relative to supply i.e. inflationary.

Your comment re the US’s post-war role is simply naive - yes, they’ve made some monumental strategic errors, but without them you might be speaking Russian or Mandarin.

Be serious please.

No, it definitely shouldn't. But the poster was wondering how someone with a criminal record could be president, and I answered that his criminal conviction is for something quite low-level - ie hush money. His conviction for sex abuse is a civil conviction, for which the burden of proof is much lower. If he had a criminal conviction for sex abuse, I'm not sure he could have been president. I was talking about these facts. But of course the sex abuse should not be minimised and of course he's a sex offender. I think it's a disgrace he's allowed to be president with a record like this, even with the SA conviction being civil rather than criminal.

Ah see. I think I owe you an apology. I'm sorry, I mistook it as you were defending him. My mistake!

Apology accepted! Omg, I would never defend that horrific orange nightmare. Never!!!

Donald Trump has sacked the head of the US coast guard over her excessive focus on diversity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives.

Hallelujah.

@MyNameIsX

"You require a lesson in basic economics, I see. Free trade means that, in normally functioning markets, consumers are able to choose the most competitive product/service, globally. Seek to remove the world’s largest economy - the US - and inflation will naturally rise (less relevant for small economies of course)."

Whilst you are broadly correct in your economic analysis much depends on the levels of imports (which will have tariffs on them) for that country and whether (and at what cost) these items can be manufactured in the home country instead. For example home growing oranges would be expensive in the UK but cheaper in the US.

But what we also have to factor in is new employment from home countries making their own products rather than importing them, environmental benefits from producing products in a more sustainable way (eg less CO2) and ethical considerations such as paying a living wage or not using slave Labour (eg Uighars).

That goes back precisely to my point.

The UK, for example, manufactures very little - it’s a tertiary economy which accounts for c. 80% of its economic output. The PP suggested we sever links with the US. My point was/is, that would prove hugely inflationary. She took me to task on this - wrongly.

In addition, the UK lags in productivity, so even if we could fill the skills gap to which you refer (which is unlikely in many areas), this would also prove inflationary.

I generally try not to (pretend) to speak authoritatively, on subjects of which I know little - it would be terrific if other posters did similarly.

This isnt quite true. I live in a rural /agricultural part of rhe UK. During covid there was this hype of "food rotting in the fields, food will be scarce pricws will spiral" many local people signed up, prepared to work for the minimum wage. Many were turned down due to "lack of experience" or "needed to live on site" or no response to their application. It transpires of course that 3/4 people usually usually share a caravan on site, obviousuly against covid restrictio s at the time. No doubt immigrant would no doubt be charged f4om their pay. So the lying politicians and big business flew in 1000s of people to (be exploited) work despite (though not evidenced to be fair) the potential of close proximity of workers sitting on planes let alone sharing accommodation (caravans) on site. Simarlarly my son worked briefly in a remote care home. Immigrant staff working for the minimum wage but obviously having deductions for their accommodation. Modern slavery? So lets put to bed this bullshit narrative that british people dont want to work. What needs addressing is that british people cannot afford to do minimum wage and zero hours contract jobs even before the COL crisis.

Well it’s worse than that @twinklystar23 as the agricultural wages are less than minimum wage, then they get their lodgings deducted. No wonder the poor bastards no longer want to come here. It will get worse as (a lot of) the cheap labour will soon be flocking to Ukraine to rebuild.

x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1881844109587235107?s=46