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What have I just seen:Trump

367 replies

Chinupandtitsout · 19/01/2025 23:22

Just been sitting open-mouthed at his speach. Now it’s the Village People. Am
i living in augmented reality?

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PurpleAxe · 21/01/2025 05:49

GameofPhones · 20/01/2025 00:11

The country depends on undocumented immigrants for labour. What will happen if they are all deported?

Yes, they really must be allowed to keep their slaves.

Say what you like about Trump, the man knows how to put on a show. It is going to be a wild ride for the next few years.

OneLemonGuide · 21/01/2025 06:03

crumblingschools · 20/01/2025 22:26

@shayri so naive

What’s naive is drawing such a preposterous false equivalence… Love him or hate him, but Trump is the most pro-Israel president in a line of pro-Israel presidents, and Musk is one of his biggest supporters.

It’s this kind of crap that has driven people to Trump over the last 8 years.

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 06:06

I find it staggering that people can genuinely defend a nazi salute.

The nazis didn't just go after Jews. They went after everyone that didn't fit their ideology. And let's not pretend Trump is pro-Israel, he's just anti-Muslim. He's made that perfectly clear. But this time the news cycle has moved on, so he's anti-trans, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-Mexican.

SecretWitch · 21/01/2025 06:23

crumblingschools · 20/01/2025 22:12

So so worrying. What do Americans think of Musk doing that salute?

We are sick about it (well, those of us with a modicum of intelligence)

I've been hiding in my bedroom with my husband, books and cats. I can't not even contemplate how to get through the next four years.

HellsBalls · 21/01/2025 06:57

OneLemonGuide · 21/01/2025 05:47

I’m not a fan of Musk, but this talk of him doing a Nazi salute is nonsense…

  1. He put his hand over his heart.
  2. He then threw his hand out to the audience as a gesture of love for voting Trump while saying thank you.

That’s it. Over-interpreting what’s clearly an exuberant act of a socially awkward individual to reinforce the demonisation of the “other side” is totally counterproductive.

Agreed.

PoltergeistsStartLowKey · 21/01/2025 07:02

It wasn't a Nazi salute but he is delusional in every other way.

The future of civilisation is assured? It would be funny if it was on the Simpsons.

OneLemonGuide · 21/01/2025 07:17

Phthia · 20/01/2025 08:57

Biden actually deported many more illegal immigrants than Trump did during his previous term in office.

That’s partly because many, many more people crossed the border!

BarbaraHoward · 21/01/2025 07:21

Danja2010 · 20/01/2025 23:44

Jerusalem press has it at three and I do not doubt that ! That was NO mistake . SICK !!

I haven't seen the third, do you have a link? No worries if not will hunt it out later.

MyNameIsX · 21/01/2025 08:15

I think many people are utterly sick of the left.

Looking to infiltrate every part of peoples lives, telling them what to think and how to live, and calling them ‘far right’ if they dare to question the success of mass immigration, or if they should hold more traditional values related to sexual orientation etc.

A bonfire of wokeism is much-needed.

1dayatatime · 21/01/2025 08:15

Musk didn't do a Nazi salute, it's just deliberate misinformation by desperate folk, in the same way it would be deliberate misinformation to claim Kamala Harris gave Nazi salutes.

Sticking your arm out does not make a Nazi salute otherwise lollipop ladies up and down the country helping children cross the road will soon be accused of being a secret Nazi movement.

What have I just seen:Trump
Donttellempike · 21/01/2025 08:16

shayri · 20/01/2025 22:25

there was no salute.
Fake news BS

There were 2

Bluebellysmell · 21/01/2025 08:18

Coldanddamp · 19/01/2025 23:38

i find him fascinating, he's awful & people know that but they can overlook it because he really seems to know what people want.

He knows what people want, promises it but then doesn't deliver. Unless you are one of the ultra wealthy.
I just don't see how people have been conned into trusting him again.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 21/01/2025 08:21

Anniedash · 20/01/2025 00:25

He just won his second election. And is about to be inaugurated tomorrow. I think the time for ‘we’ll see’ has sailed. ‘We’ need to get over it.

Exactly. He won the election decisively and is now inaugurated. The majority of American voters wanted him I’m sure they are shaking in their boots about the judgement of Mumsnet posters and their “we’ll see” judgements.

1dayatatime · 21/01/2025 08:23

@Donttellempike

Based on your detailed analysis should Santa also be banned as he's "clearly giving" Nazi salutes too:

What have I just seen:Trump
Babadookinthewardrobe · 21/01/2025 08:27

I find it sickening and that people will pretend a gesture is a nazi salute when it clearly isn’t to back up their political stance. Millions died in the genocide. That gesture is not a political football for you to toss around without justification to try and win your argument. Extremely ignorant.

shayri · 21/01/2025 08:36

1dayatatime · 21/01/2025 08:15

Musk didn't do a Nazi salute, it's just deliberate misinformation by desperate folk, in the same way it would be deliberate misinformation to claim Kamala Harris gave Nazi salutes.

Sticking your arm out does not make a Nazi salute otherwise lollipop ladies up and down the country helping children cross the road will soon be accused of being a secret Nazi movement.

exactly. It's a deliberate attempt to throw the same old same old Nazi slurs. Grossly insulting.

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 08:45

He slapped his chest, and then thrust his arm straight out with his fingers pressed together.

It was either an intentional salute or a man with no idea about history, who is stupid enough to do that.

Either way it's not a good look for him.

MyNameIsX · 21/01/2025 08:51

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 08:45

He slapped his chest, and then thrust his arm straight out with his fingers pressed together.

It was either an intentional salute or a man with no idea about history, who is stupid enough to do that.

Either way it's not a good look for him.

‘Not a good look’…

You think he gives a rats? He’s got a seat at the top table, and is evidently prepared to wield his influence.

Enjoy.

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 08:52

@MyNameIsX and that's exactly the issue?

The USA is now controlled by the richest man in the world who has some very questionable views.

MyNameIsX · 21/01/2025 09:04

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 08:52

@MyNameIsX and that's exactly the issue?

The USA is now controlled by the richest man in the world who has some very questionable views.

Cause & effect.

And, by the way, it is notable that you fail to mention Bezos and Zuckerberg, both of whom also appear to have lined up behind Trump.

They see which way the world is turning, and it’s away from the left. The UK is a an exception, solely because a significant amount of the electorate staged a protest vote against the Tories (partly understandably), and because Starmer lied about his fiscal policy during campaigning (had he been straight, he would have lost).

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 09:25

@MyNameIsX the topic of conversation is musk. Who has performed a Nazi salute.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 21/01/2025 09:31

Except he didn’t and you’re co-opting the Nazi salute to score your own made up political points which is shameful and juvenile @CinnamonStick77

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 09:36

Babadookinthewardrobe · 21/01/2025 09:31

Except he didn’t and you’re co-opting the Nazi salute to score your own made up political points which is shameful and juvenile @CinnamonStick77

So then what do you call thumping your chest and extending your arm out in a sharp salute with your fingers pressed together?

Lilifer · 21/01/2025 09:36

1dayatatime · 21/01/2025 08:23

@Donttellempike

Based on your detailed analysis should Santa also be banned as he's "clearly giving" Nazi salutes too:

Santa's a fascist! 🙈😱😱😱

Babadookinthewardrobe · 21/01/2025 09:45

CinnamonStick77 · 21/01/2025 09:36

So then what do you call thumping your chest and extending your arm out in a sharp salute with your fingers pressed together?

An innocent gesticulation that malicious photographers caught and which malicious commenters are now desperately using to try to make the nazi association. See also Santa Claus, well know Nazi, in the picture upthread.

I hope that answers your disingenuous question @CinnamonStick77 - but then you already knew the answer really. Give up the straw clutching.

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