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Party bag gate part 2 - enter DH stage left

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JandamiHash · 16/01/2025 17:51

Original thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5252894-child-didnt-get-a-party-bag?page=40&reply=141398805

To all the baked potato loving legends out there who followed my original thread, I couldn’t resist sharing what I think is a rather funny update.

So I’ve been away for a work conference today and didn’t check my phone til 2pm. Amanda had called me again! And messaged to say “Jandami can you call me please when you get the chance so I can find out what to ask this magician?”

I assume she means she wants to find out if I’ll pay for a party bag. So I messaged DH (who is fully invested in the drama) laughing about it. I didn’t reply to her as had to go back in the conference (and still haven’t replied only just got home).

Anyway at pick up, DH was standing in the playground waiting for DS and Amanda sidled up to him and said “Excuse me Neil? Is your wife’s phone broken?” (emphasis on the ‘is’ apparently). He just looked at her, said “No” and walked off to wait at the other side of the playground 😂 the best bit is - his name is not Neil!

I can only assume she’s either micro dosing with hallucinogenics or is genuinely mad. Nobody normal behaves this way.

PS jacket potato with pancetta, cheese, soured cream and chives tonight 🤤

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TimeForATerf · 17/01/2025 10:31

@MyLadyGreensleeves would you bollox do all that.

😂😂😂

yorktown · 17/01/2025 10:31

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:24

She treated Amanda and her child perfectly politely

On the basis of OP’s behaviour on these threads, is anyone else wondering if OP really did?
Amanda’s behaviour is utter madness but I’m wondering if some of it may have been triggered/ escalated in the first place because OP was abrasive to them when they turned up?

Edited

If you turned up to a party without RSVPing and the host was a bit off with you, what would you do? Would getting to take home the vegan pizza not be enough for you?

Trickedbyadoughnut · 17/01/2025 10:32

Well, all the outraged responses to OP calling her mean and worse for a totally normal response to CFery at least explain why there's a plague of CFs at the moment - apparently there's a concurrent plague of people-pleasers pandering to them! CFery is here to stay on the basis of this thread!

Team OP!

AnonymousBleep · 17/01/2025 10:32

ThePolarBearWhoLostHisCrown · 17/01/2025 10:19

Blimey, there is a lot of projecting going on in this thread 😆
You sound ace @JandamiHash and you're spot on. Amanda's problem is entirely of her own making.

There must be! The angry insults to the OP are just....weird.

AnonymousBleep · 17/01/2025 10:33

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:24

She treated Amanda and her child perfectly politely

On the basis of OP’s behaviour on these threads, is anyone else wondering if OP really did?
Amanda’s behaviour is utter madness but I’m wondering if some of it may have been triggered/ escalated in the first place because OP was abrasive to them when they turned up?

Edited

No.

justkeepswimmng · 17/01/2025 10:34

OP im fucking howling!!!

Anyways what ive taken from his thread is alot of people are quite thick......"oh no why didnt you have a extra party bags sob sob sob"

OP has clearly explained THE PARTY BAGS WERE PERSONALISED TO EACH CHILD.

So what you all wanted was for OP to shell out a few extra pounds just incase....why should she account for other peoples incompetence, it was Amandas mistake and she should be humble enough to accept that.

Amanda sounds absolutely unhinged on every level and poor James is in for a shock when he hits the real world.

AnonymousBleep · 17/01/2025 10:35

Allihavetodoisdream · 17/01/2025 10:02

This thread is hilarious. OP and her husband sound hilarious. Fascinated to know what Amanda’s next steps will be. The fact that she has doubled down is very psychologically interesting. I suspect she feels guilty so is projecting.

On the jacket potato question, did anyone see that cottage cheese is apparently back in fashion? I have always considered it the best jacket potato topping so am pleased to be considered chic after years in the wilderness. £9 for a plain potato is astonishing. I would be tripadvisoring that joint.

It's only acceptable with sliced avocado on top.

Actually that's probably too middle class to admit to, especially on a thread where the OP has been slammed for buying personalised party bags. I'm showing my privilege.

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:36

I wouldn’t react like Amanda that’s for sure. But if a child and mum from school turned up that I wasn’t expecting I would still be welcoming and polite. Given OP’s interactions on this thread and the wild text she shared here that she sent to Amanda, I’m wondering if OP wasn’t welcoming or polite , and that is partly what has triggered such abnoxious behaviour from Amanda.

MyNameIsX · 17/01/2025 10:38

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:36

I wouldn’t react like Amanda that’s for sure. But if a child and mum from school turned up that I wasn’t expecting I would still be welcoming and polite. Given OP’s interactions on this thread and the wild text she shared here that she sent to Amanda, I’m wondering if OP wasn’t welcoming or polite , and that is partly what has triggered such abnoxious behaviour from Amanda.

Edited

I think you’re in the minority there, love.

elessar · 17/01/2025 10:38

I think there's a few Amanda's on this thread.

Absolutely nuts that anyone, anyone, is trying to make the OP in the wrong for not paying for an expensive party bag for a kid whose mum didn't RSVP, when she did welcome the child and went out of her way to cater for his (new) vegan diet that she also wasn't aware of.

The mother has been outrageously rude at every step of the way, and I'm thrilled you're holding your ground @JandamiHash

One thing you might just want to watch for is that she sounds the type to go to the magician and ask for an extra party bag and say that you've agreed to pay for it as it was "accidentally missed off your list."

I'd hope that the magician would be clued up enough to confirm this with you before making up a bag and sending you an invoice, but it might just be something to keep an eye out for. The woman sounds like she has no boundaries whatsoever!

Noshowlomo · 17/01/2025 10:39

Blondeshavemorefun · 16/01/2025 22:28

No reason for you to call her back. You’ve given her the details and cost

I love a jacket. Tuna with Mayo and salad cream and cheese. Simple. Lush !!

My dream jacket! With a shit load of salad with red onions, and the cheese first so it’s melted. This is what I have in Wetherspoons (I love Wetherspoons!) with a glass of Prosecco to keep myself classy.
I know what my dinner is gonna be!

AnonymousBleep · 17/01/2025 10:39

elessar · 17/01/2025 10:38

I think there's a few Amanda's on this thread.

Absolutely nuts that anyone, anyone, is trying to make the OP in the wrong for not paying for an expensive party bag for a kid whose mum didn't RSVP, when she did welcome the child and went out of her way to cater for his (new) vegan diet that she also wasn't aware of.

The mother has been outrageously rude at every step of the way, and I'm thrilled you're holding your ground @JandamiHash

One thing you might just want to watch for is that she sounds the type to go to the magician and ask for an extra party bag and say that you've agreed to pay for it as it was "accidentally missed off your list."

I'd hope that the magician would be clued up enough to confirm this with you before making up a bag and sending you an invoice, but it might just be something to keep an eye out for. The woman sounds like she has no boundaries whatsoever!

Can you imagine being the sort of person who does that? I almost admire that level of CFery.

I'm a people pleaser by nature but I'd still have told Amanda to fuck off by now tbh.

InterIgnis · 17/01/2025 10:44

It’s hilarious how often ‘that’s not nice’, and ‘that’s unkind’ get trotted out, as if women should be deathly afraid of not being referred to with possibly the most milquetoast and tedious of descriptors.

He’s upset? Okay? That’s life. He’ll either get over it or he can nurse a grudge for the next 70 years, but either way it’s also not OP’s problem. Women are not required to pander to each and every upset child. If his mother, the one entirely responsible for his upset, wants to, that’s on her.

elessar · 17/01/2025 10:47

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:36

I wouldn’t react like Amanda that’s for sure. But if a child and mum from school turned up that I wasn’t expecting I would still be welcoming and polite. Given OP’s interactions on this thread and the wild text she shared here that she sent to Amanda, I’m wondering if OP wasn’t welcoming or polite , and that is partly what has triggered such abnoxious behaviour from Amanda.

Edited

Even if she wasn't - though it seems pretty clear that she was (not being welcoming would be turning the child away, or not ordering him his own special pizza) - in what possible way would that excuse the behaviour from Amanda? Demanding the OP pays for a party bag for a party you didn't RSVP to?

The only possible way the OP could be in the wrong and Amanda could rightly feel aggrieved is if she had sent an rsvp and the OP had forgotten to get James a party bag, or hadn't catered for him (assuming Amanda had actually communicated that he's vegan). The fault starts and ends with Amanda, so even if the OP had been rude or shown some annoyance about the situation, it doesn't justify Amanda being a twat about it.

JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 10:52

MyLadyGreensleeves · 17/01/2025 09:07

When she arrived, I would have said something along the lines of,

'Hello Jane. How nice you could make it. I didn't think you were coming because I hadn't heard from you. It's really good you and Tommy are here now but because I thought you weren't coming, I haven't sorted out a party bag for him.
I'll have a word with the magician and see if something can be sorted out. If not, you might be able to organise something with him later.'

That way, I would have let her know that the fault of the missing party bag was hers but without being bullish about it or making it look as if this was a big drama. She would have got the point and I would have not lowered myself into looking as if I was a person who got wound up over a child's RSVP.

As for the pizza, I would have done what any reasonable person would have done and tried to accommodate the child.

'Thanks for letting me know Tommy is a vegetarian but I had no idea about that. I can make him a cheese sandwich or I can try to order in a vegetarian pizza or you can do it if you want to be sure about what he eats.'

Again, making the point that she was at fault for not letting me know this either but not lowering myself into being the type of person who is thrown off course by having to order an extra pizza.

Regarding your husband's involvement.

My husband is a charming, well mannered, professional and well educated man so it is difficult for me to imagine him becoming embroiled in a row over a child's pizza and party bag.

However, if he had so little to do that he needed to place himself in the centre of a row about a child's party, I Imagine the last thing he would be doing would be contemplating telling Jane to 'fuck off' in the school playground, even if she approached him.

If he did, I would be ashamed not proud. I would also be very wary of anyone who, like your husband, says that they don't care what anyone thinks about them. That may be a recommendation in your world but in mine, it most certainly isn't.

When she arrived, I would have said something along the lines of,
'Hello Jane. How nice you could make it. I didn't think you were coming because I hadn't heard from you. It's really good you and Tommy are here now but because I thought you weren't coming, I haven't sorted out a party bag for him.
I'll have a word with the magician and see if something can be sorted out. If not, you might be able to organise something with him later.'

So basically what I did then minus having a word with the magician?

'Thanks for letting me know Tommy is a vegetarian but I had no idea about that. I can make him a cheese sandwich or I can try to order in a vegetarian pizza or you can do it if you want to be sure about what he eats.'

Well I’m not sure that would have been appreciated considering he’s vegan…but I did sort his food

My husband is a charming, well mannered, professional and well educated man so it is difficult for me to imagine him becoming embroiled in a row over a child's pizza and party bag.

My husband is a charming well mannered professional and well educated man but he doesn’t suffer fools and certainly doesn’t simper to people who are trying to make a fool of his wife. If your husband doesn’t stand up for you, if he puts being polite to bullies before defending you then I’m very sorry about that, it must be so unattractive to be married to someone with no backbone

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thepariscrimefiles · 17/01/2025 10:56

Snazzysausage · 17/01/2025 10:03

I agree,the part you highlighted was particularly eloquent.
Also throwing "brutish" in was unexpected, a less common word these days, a more old fashioned term I think.

'Brutish' definitely has 'Bill Sykes' vibes for me. That is absolutely not how I am imagining OP's DH.

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:59

elessar · 17/01/2025 10:47

Even if she wasn't - though it seems pretty clear that she was (not being welcoming would be turning the child away, or not ordering him his own special pizza) - in what possible way would that excuse the behaviour from Amanda? Demanding the OP pays for a party bag for a party you didn't RSVP to?

The only possible way the OP could be in the wrong and Amanda could rightly feel aggrieved is if she had sent an rsvp and the OP had forgotten to get James a party bag, or hadn't catered for him (assuming Amanda had actually communicated that he's vegan). The fault starts and ends with Amanda, so even if the OP had been rude or shown some annoyance about the situation, it doesn't justify Amanda being a twat about it.

Im not saying that excuses Amanda’s behaviour- her behaviour is deranged. I’m just wondering if it’s part of the context that created the drama circle.

BluebellsareBlue · 17/01/2025 10:59

Oh my actual god!!! I've just read both of these threads. I'm astounded at the people who are saying you're unkind and you and your husband are not very nice!

So let me get this clear -

You requested RSVP's by a certain date so you could provide (what sound brilliant) personalised party bags for those you know were attending, they were 12 pounds a pop.

You, I imagine, organised pizza for the kids and I have no doubt you asked for dietary requirements to be made clear to you.

You organised what sounds like an amazing party with a magician (all kids (and me) LOVE a magician.

You decided to do this indoors so the children were warm, comfortable and safe instead of taking them in below freezing temps to a play park.

A person who had not replied to the invite turns up, essentially at this stage uninvited, informs you of dietary requirements of her child, you accommodate, child and parent eat pizza and take leftovers home and you also apologise to say you were sorry that due to the non response you didn't have a personalised party bag like the other kids got. (At this stage you would have been expected to also pay £12 for party bags for those who didn't rsvp Confused on the off chance they turn up ! Dear god! I don't know who has cash like that to throw away!)

Amanda contacts you to say her son felt excluded and you replied with a very sensible solution and gently say, it's ok we all make mistakes or forget things at times but here's how you can resolve it for your son. I would have basically said here's number of magician, if you had told me he was coming he WOULD have had a bag, but you didn't, you'll need to be honest and explain that sometimes in life if we are disorganised and miss things and we sometimes don't get the desired outcome and this is a perfect example of you not being organised and I'm sorry that because of this James has missed out.

She tries to call you and you don't answer (I rarely answer my phone, tbh it rarely rings) as you are at a conference.

Neil the husband is asked a question regarding your phone and gives her the honest answer and leaves.

Where the hell have you done ANYTHING wrong?!?

It is the party just responsibility to cater for lazy or disorganised parents.
No! It's notX it's your responsibility as a parent and adult to make sure you are organised for your child to live their best life, this includes rsvp - ing to party invites to ensure your child is catered for, this includes knowing your child's timetable of things like what's needed for clubs etc. when pe kit is needed so they aren't wearing the lost kit stuff and being made fun of by other kids.

I'm aghast at all these mumsnetters that don't see how unhelpful it is for moulding their children to understand that sometimes in life there will be disappointments, how we avoid these disappointments is learning to be accountable, learning to accept that things don't always go your way etc. and also how to deal with the emotions these things bring.

There IS a life lesson here and it's not for James, it's for Amanda, be better organised, have more respect for parents who are doing something nice for your child, have more respect that they are forking out cash to entertain and feed (you ) your child.

I'm honestly ragin for you - mine is 21 now and I absolutely wouldn't have put up with any of this pish, if I did something that affected my sons happiness or something that disappointed him I'd apologise to him and say I'm sorry , this is what happened, it's my fault but what I have learned is to make sure I respect you and other children/parents by responding to them as requested!!!

Luckily this isn't in Scotland in my sons formative years, Amanda would have been to foxtrot Oscar and told to make up for her own mistake!

You did great op and I would also like a party bag!!!

WoolySnail · 17/01/2025 11:00

Tandora · 17/01/2025 10:59

Im not saying that excuses Amanda’s behaviour- her behaviour is deranged. I’m just wondering if it’s part of the context that created the drama circle.

Nope, Amanda started the drama circle all on her own, hth 🙂

JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 11:00

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

I was away for an hour 😂

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WoolySnail · 17/01/2025 11:01

BluebellsareBlue · 17/01/2025 10:59

Oh my actual god!!! I've just read both of these threads. I'm astounded at the people who are saying you're unkind and you and your husband are not very nice!

So let me get this clear -

You requested RSVP's by a certain date so you could provide (what sound brilliant) personalised party bags for those you know were attending, they were 12 pounds a pop.

You, I imagine, organised pizza for the kids and I have no doubt you asked for dietary requirements to be made clear to you.

You organised what sounds like an amazing party with a magician (all kids (and me) LOVE a magician.

You decided to do this indoors so the children were warm, comfortable and safe instead of taking them in below freezing temps to a play park.

A person who had not replied to the invite turns up, essentially at this stage uninvited, informs you of dietary requirements of her child, you accommodate, child and parent eat pizza and take leftovers home and you also apologise to say you were sorry that due to the non response you didn't have a personalised party bag like the other kids got. (At this stage you would have been expected to also pay £12 for party bags for those who didn't rsvp Confused on the off chance they turn up ! Dear god! I don't know who has cash like that to throw away!)

Amanda contacts you to say her son felt excluded and you replied with a very sensible solution and gently say, it's ok we all make mistakes or forget things at times but here's how you can resolve it for your son. I would have basically said here's number of magician, if you had told me he was coming he WOULD have had a bag, but you didn't, you'll need to be honest and explain that sometimes in life if we are disorganised and miss things and we sometimes don't get the desired outcome and this is a perfect example of you not being organised and I'm sorry that because of this James has missed out.

She tries to call you and you don't answer (I rarely answer my phone, tbh it rarely rings) as you are at a conference.

Neil the husband is asked a question regarding your phone and gives her the honest answer and leaves.

Where the hell have you done ANYTHING wrong?!?

It is the party just responsibility to cater for lazy or disorganised parents.
No! It's notX it's your responsibility as a parent and adult to make sure you are organised for your child to live their best life, this includes rsvp - ing to party invites to ensure your child is catered for, this includes knowing your child's timetable of things like what's needed for clubs etc. when pe kit is needed so they aren't wearing the lost kit stuff and being made fun of by other kids.

I'm aghast at all these mumsnetters that don't see how unhelpful it is for moulding their children to understand that sometimes in life there will be disappointments, how we avoid these disappointments is learning to be accountable, learning to accept that things don't always go your way etc. and also how to deal with the emotions these things bring.

There IS a life lesson here and it's not for James, it's for Amanda, be better organised, have more respect for parents who are doing something nice for your child, have more respect that they are forking out cash to entertain and feed (you ) your child.

I'm honestly ragin for you - mine is 21 now and I absolutely wouldn't have put up with any of this pish, if I did something that affected my sons happiness or something that disappointed him I'd apologise to him and say I'm sorry , this is what happened, it's my fault but what I have learned is to make sure I respect you and other children/parents by responding to them as requested!!!

Luckily this isn't in Scotland in my sons formative years, Amanda would have been to foxtrot Oscar and told to make up for her own mistake!

You did great op and I would also like a party bag!!!

What is absolutely fabulous is that Op's DH isn't even called Neil 😂

Tandora · 17/01/2025 11:01

WoolySnail · 17/01/2025 11:00

Nope, Amanda started the drama circle all on her own, hth 🙂

If you say so 🙃

WoolySnail · 17/01/2025 11:02

Tandora · 17/01/2025 11:01

If you say so 🙃

I do 🙃

ForZanyAquaViewer · 17/01/2025 11:05

BluebellsareBlue · 17/01/2025 10:59

Oh my actual god!!! I've just read both of these threads. I'm astounded at the people who are saying you're unkind and you and your husband are not very nice!

So let me get this clear -

You requested RSVP's by a certain date so you could provide (what sound brilliant) personalised party bags for those you know were attending, they were 12 pounds a pop.

You, I imagine, organised pizza for the kids and I have no doubt you asked for dietary requirements to be made clear to you.

You organised what sounds like an amazing party with a magician (all kids (and me) LOVE a magician.

You decided to do this indoors so the children were warm, comfortable and safe instead of taking them in below freezing temps to a play park.

A person who had not replied to the invite turns up, essentially at this stage uninvited, informs you of dietary requirements of her child, you accommodate, child and parent eat pizza and take leftovers home and you also apologise to say you were sorry that due to the non response you didn't have a personalised party bag like the other kids got. (At this stage you would have been expected to also pay £12 for party bags for those who didn't rsvp Confused on the off chance they turn up ! Dear god! I don't know who has cash like that to throw away!)

Amanda contacts you to say her son felt excluded and you replied with a very sensible solution and gently say, it's ok we all make mistakes or forget things at times but here's how you can resolve it for your son. I would have basically said here's number of magician, if you had told me he was coming he WOULD have had a bag, but you didn't, you'll need to be honest and explain that sometimes in life if we are disorganised and miss things and we sometimes don't get the desired outcome and this is a perfect example of you not being organised and I'm sorry that because of this James has missed out.

She tries to call you and you don't answer (I rarely answer my phone, tbh it rarely rings) as you are at a conference.

Neil the husband is asked a question regarding your phone and gives her the honest answer and leaves.

Where the hell have you done ANYTHING wrong?!?

It is the party just responsibility to cater for lazy or disorganised parents.
No! It's notX it's your responsibility as a parent and adult to make sure you are organised for your child to live their best life, this includes rsvp - ing to party invites to ensure your child is catered for, this includes knowing your child's timetable of things like what's needed for clubs etc. when pe kit is needed so they aren't wearing the lost kit stuff and being made fun of by other kids.

I'm aghast at all these mumsnetters that don't see how unhelpful it is for moulding their children to understand that sometimes in life there will be disappointments, how we avoid these disappointments is learning to be accountable, learning to accept that things don't always go your way etc. and also how to deal with the emotions these things bring.

There IS a life lesson here and it's not for James, it's for Amanda, be better organised, have more respect for parents who are doing something nice for your child, have more respect that they are forking out cash to entertain and feed (you ) your child.

I'm honestly ragin for you - mine is 21 now and I absolutely wouldn't have put up with any of this pish, if I did something that affected my sons happiness or something that disappointed him I'd apologise to him and say I'm sorry , this is what happened, it's my fault but what I have learned is to make sure I respect you and other children/parents by responding to them as requested!!!

Luckily this isn't in Scotland in my sons formative years, Amanda would have been to foxtrot Oscar and told to make up for her own mistake!

You did great op and I would also like a party bag!!!

I think @Tandora needs to read this. Slowly.

GoldGuide · 17/01/2025 11:07

Reading some of the posts against the OP... I'm not surprised that there are so many CFs out there. Why do so many ppl not stand up for themselves against blatant CFery, on any level?!?

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