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Asking lodger to leave. Does he have rights?

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MrsRaspberry · 15/01/2025 22:24

I am a lone parent and have 2 adult children as well as 3 younger ones. One of my adult children asked if her friend could come to stay with us as his home situation wasn't good(he lived in supported accommodation and said it affected his mental health)I know this friend and agreed. He's here on the understanding that it wasn't permanent and he needed to sort out something with the homeless team. 8months later and he's still here doing nothing to help his living situation. I feel he's taking the piss. My 8 year old is saying she hates him as he winds her up purposely then shouts when she retaliates. He has doubled my bills with his eating habits he takes everything in excess leaving little without a thought that others need to eat. He puts the heating on and has upped my gas bill hugely. He does pay board as such £100 per month which doesn't even cover the extra food I have to buy to replace everything he uses let alone the fact that my other bills have gone up as he sits up all night using my internet leaving lights on and leaving heating on.he doesn't do his laundry he seems to expect me to do it and leaves all his dirty clothing in my bathroom he doesn't wash up after himself and he doesn't even purchase his own toiletries. He barely washes and just sleeps all day to the point I can't even have visitors as he makes them feel uncomfortable as he's sofa surfing at mine.(My house isn't big enough to give him a bedroom) I have given him 2 weeks to sort out somewhere permanent to live as we can no longer tolerate feeling like we can't even enjoy our home without him literally waiting for visitors to leave and making it obvious that he doesn't want them there. He even tried to tell me my eldest cannot come to my house unless I'm here at home which to be honest if she wants to come over she's allowed to as she sometimes likes to be here when I come home from work. He's told a mutual friend that I've been unreasonable to ask him to move out and now he's making me uncomfortable in my own home as he keeps giving sly nasty looks all the time. There's no tenancy agreement or anything but does he have any rights to not leave?as I have a feeling he's going to try to make it difficult to get him to leave

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OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 16/01/2025 15:14

Great update OP. Agree with PP re changing locks.

AdoraBell · 16/01/2025 15:44

Bloody well done OP

HappyMamma2023 · 16/01/2025 16:23

YourWildAmberSloth · 15/01/2025 22:42

He shouts at your 8 year old, and he's still in the house - for that alone you are YABU.

This 100%

PiggyPigalle · 16/01/2025 16:57

All down to the good women on here who egged you on to kick him out.
What you suffered for eight months was achieved with their help in eleven hours.

I don't include myself by the way as this is my first post on it.

WhereYouLeftIt · 16/01/2025 17:01

PiggyPigalle · 16/01/2025 16:57

All down to the good women on here who egged you on to kick him out.
What you suffered for eight months was achieved with their help in eleven hours.

I don't include myself by the way as this is my first post on it.

That's really not what happened. OP had already given him two weeks' notice to leave before even starting this thread. She "was just genuinely asking does he have rights if he decides to try to be difficult about it."

Winterskyfall · 16/01/2025 17:47

MrsRaspberry · 16/01/2025 09:03

UPDATE. he is gone. I've snapped this morning after another sly look and him being a sarcastic little twat. So I told him he can sod his notice and leave as of this morning as I'm fed up of him taking the absolute piss. He can go ask his college mates to put up with his nonsense

Great news. I wouldn't leave the house empty until I had the locks changed. You really can't trust people like that at all, you don't want to get home and find he's taken revenge on your home while you've been out.

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Rehabilitation · 20/01/2025 13:19

You did him a favour by supporting him and all he's done has disrespect and take you for granted. Please give him a letter in writing with a date of when he has to vacate . If you want to give reason why add this to your letter stating how his behaviour has impacted your peace and quite and family household, life . Make it clear all his belongings will be ready for him to collect . Do t put them outside as this is his belongings and he has rights even though he isn't under contact . Make sure you store them enabling him to collect his ger when he has a suitable place . You can speak with housing if you have concerns. Make sure you give him details of local authority housing and shelter support for accomodation in your local area where he can seek support. Although you took him in and he has been acting unreasonable , I'd like to feel we all have a reasonability to serve less fortunate to move on in the best way to have a positive outcome all round. Good luck.

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 20/01/2025 13:33

Get a back bone and kick his arse out ! Your kids should be first second and last priority! Change the locks and put his stuff out.

Widower2014 · 20/01/2025 13:42

Give him a week's notice, if he is there a week later, get your adult kids round to help them move out. The fact he moved in, takes without contributing to the house and is picking on one of your younger children, then he has to go

ensayers · 20/01/2025 13:56

£100 a month? Surely you mean £100 a week??

Summerbod25 · 20/01/2025 13:56

Why on earth are you tolerating this? What do you think this situation is doing to your young child? Grow a backbone for godsake, put your child first.

Redruby2020 · 20/01/2025 13:57

@loropianalover
To an extent yes, but no different to women who let their bf stay over/pretty much move in with them.
And some don't wait that long.

Summerbod25 · 20/01/2025 13:59

HappyMamma2023 · 16/01/2025 16:23

This 100%

Exactly, unreal.

MrsRaspberry · 20/01/2025 14:05

Widower2014 · 20/01/2025 13:42

Give him a week's notice, if he is there a week later, get your adult kids round to help them move out. The fact he moved in, takes without contributing to the house and is picking on one of your younger children, then he has to go

He's already gone I kicked him out and he has all of his belongings. He's in an HMO that the local council took him to live in. He wasn't happy about it but that's his problem

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Blondiebeachbabe · 20/01/2025 14:11

Can't believe what I'm reading, to be honest. NEVER allow strangers in to your home, it is meant to be your sanctuary!

Get him out by the weekend. Stop being such a mug!!!!

Blondiebeachbabe · 20/01/2025 14:12

Missed the update. Thank fuck!! Someone I know did the same as you - he also took MONTHS to leave. Lesson learned for you I hope.

oldmoaner · 20/01/2025 14:24

The most I would put in a letter is that you allowed him to stay as a guest for a couple of weeks. He has paid for his food but nothing else. The situation is no longer acceptable and he must move out within 7 days.
You cannot class him as a lodger as you don't have a spare bedroom for him, plus is it your own property or rented? In which case you need permission to take in a lodger if renting, which wouldn't be allowed as your over crowded.

loropianalover · 20/01/2025 14:26

oldmoaner · 20/01/2025 14:24

The most I would put in a letter is that you allowed him to stay as a guest for a couple of weeks. He has paid for his food but nothing else. The situation is no longer acceptable and he must move out within 7 days.
You cannot class him as a lodger as you don't have a spare bedroom for him, plus is it your own property or rented? In which case you need permission to take in a lodger if renting, which wouldn't be allowed as your over crowded.

Read the thread.

Daleksatemyshed · 20/01/2025 14:30

Of course he's not happy about being in a HMO, there's no one there who will do his washing/cooking or let him pay next to nothing to stay there.
Lots of posters can't understand why you let him move in Op but your DD vouched for him, not her fault, no doubt he seemed OK and she'll have believed he'd be grateful. It would interesting to know his DMs side of the story as to why she chucked him out, he wasn't the innocent he made himself out to be

purplecorkheart · 20/01/2025 14:33

MrsRaspberry · 20/01/2025 14:05

He's already gone I kicked him out and he has all of his belongings. He's in an HMO that the local council took him to live in. He wasn't happy about it but that's his problem

Delighted to hear that. Make sure to change the locks in case he decides he doesn't like where he is and comes back.

ClockingOffers · 20/01/2025 14:38

loropianalover · 16/01/2025 00:19

I’m wondering the same.

OP do you have a social worker, GP, or similar you can get in touch with and ask for some support? The situation you’ve allowed in your home is not normal and quite concerning.

Thank god you have served him notice. Can your older kids be there on the final day to ensure he packs up and leaves? Do you have a plan in place to change locks on the day?

Does OP have a social worker?? Don’t be so fucking condescending and bloody ridiculous. Just because you’re a bad Samaritan (Tory voter?) who would happily walk on by when they see young people suffering. Thankfully, the OP isn’t like you.

The OP is clearly a kind hearted person who has a social conscience and took in a vulnerable young adult. She knew him as a long term friend of her daughters and didn’t expect him to stay for long and take the piss after moving in. That’s on him, not the OP.

Some youngsters get dealt a shit hand at a young age and a friend of mine took in a friend of her teen son as he had no-one. His mother had died suddenly and his crappy father had previously remarried with a new family and said he didn’t have room for him to live with them. Lad was lovely and very grateful and stayed with them until he got accepted by the Army.

Starlight7080 · 20/01/2025 14:41

I didn't even read your full first post .
He never should have moved in! It's not fair on your children .
Especially as he upsets them
You need to get rid and don't do somthing so stupid again

MrsSunshine2b · 20/01/2025 14:41

MrsRaspberry · 16/01/2025 09:31

My daughter has already fell out with him he wasn't being very nice to her either recently calling her a tramp. She's told her boyfriend in no way are they putting him up at theirs either. She's said he can fend for himself and fuck off for taking the absolute piss out of my kindness

I can't get over him calling her a tramp as an insult when he's literally homeless. Hilarious. It sounds like he has a lot of issues, but they're not your issues. I bet it will be lovely to enjoy your own space again!