Male staff in nursery’s

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Ok, hear me out.. I know this is controversial but today I was shown around a nursery for the first time. I’m dreading leaving my little one, only because I’ll miss her and worry about her. I don’t think my worry is out of proportion or anything like that though. But today I saw two male nursery nurses. Now, I know there are many men who are great with kids, and not all men are a threat to children (obviously) and women can also potentially pose a threat to children but I just don’t know how I feel about male nursery staff. Hmmm. I know I’ll be shot down in flames for this. Nursery’s are well regulated etc etc. I just can’t help feeling a bit uneasy about the whole thing. Has anyone else experienced these thoughts? AIBU

Wtaf this is so wildly unreasonable!! I think it's great for nurseries to have male staff. It sets an excellent example to young children that caring is not just a job for women. Not quite the same but most of the staff at my son's after school care are male and I think it's really good to have a balance of genders across all the different staff the children interact with throughout the day. They are excellent role models a d often connect with children in a different way to women. (Not saying either is better, just that a variety is good.)

Cannot get my head around this argument at all. The only examples I know of where children have been abused in a nursery setting, it was carried out by women (though that's only off the top of my head).

does ur child have a father uncles grandfathers they pose the same threat as male nursery staff lol

it mumsnet all men are horrible beings good for two things procreation n bringing home a wage packet lol

"The internal training my school provides and I believe the online one we do but it's all behind a paywall so I can't get quotes." - Mysterian
By which I mean the internal training carried out by the school I work in talked about it. The online company we use I believe said it but as it's behind a paywall I am unable to check for certain.

Having seen in the past that women have been charged with abusing kids at nurseries, I don't see your logic.
Presumably this is why they do enhanced DBS checks.

No certificate then, to show you are trained in safeguarding.

Strange.

I genuinely can't work out if you mean nonce (aka paedophile) or Nancy (a homophobic slur)

Sneaky. People can easily pass checks by the evil and cunning method of not having done anything wrong.

There is no guarantee that any staff member of any sex will not abuse children. Therefore all members of staff must be open minded to that, and report concerns appropriately. This is different to saying that any staff member might abuse children so ban men.

I have a certificate but I'm not telling you who issued it because I'm not 100% certain of my facts. Something that everybody else on here probably understands. Why can't you?

Strange.

K

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How rude and intrusive!!

Sounds delightful.

It's incredibly hard to bring to conviction men who sexually abuse young children. It's even harder to track down the people who take the photos and distribute them online.

Many men with a sexual interest in children do not have convictions. If caught and convicted of course it will be listed on the DBS and they will not be employed.

It's the unconvicted that are the danger in children's settings, not the convicted.

That's not true. If someone is dismissed for something with a child protection element, they will be put on the DBS register, and it doesn't have to be abuse.

Asking for the name of a safeguarding training provider is not intrusive 😆

He actually is an absolute sweetie.

But he knows how to protect himself - thanks to his mam 😊

So ban "unconvicted" people from working with children. A well thought out policy.

I get it. If the nursery didn’t have cameras in every inch of a place, I would never leave a child that couldn’t tell me verbally if something was wrong. Male or female staff .

Indeed it is. It is none of your business.

Yeah, he clearly didn't lick it off the back of a door.

~if no argument, just be obtuse and try to belittle/undermine the opposition~

Whatever that means

I'd see this as a positive.
Gender equality is as much about men in caring roles as women in STEM.

It's really interesting how people on here are keen to make sweeping statements about women being more harmful to children that men, then have no way of supporting their claims at all.

Then just resort to being plain daft when evidence is requested.