To think asking permission to take off a blazer is utterly ridiculous?

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My child's school has just moved into a new trust. Clearly it's one of those trusts as the latest email announces how children will be placed in internal exclusion or be suspended if they dare to wear a coat in the building or take their blazer off without asking permission.

Schools consistently moan about funding, there's a teaching retention crisis, teachers are overworked and leaving in their hoards, TAs are underpaid and in short supply, children's mental health is worse than ever, but somehow there's time and money to dish out internal exclusions if child gets hot and dares takes their blazer off without asking?

Aibu to say schools should try focussing their time, attention and money on the real issues instead of nonsense made up ones?
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This rule over blazer isn’t teaching them for the real world at all as its casual attire these day in most jobs plus this standing when a teacher enters is total bollocks and again isn’t learning them about the real world it’s all about control.

'They just have to ask first.'

But teachers often get annoyed when interrupted during lesson don't they. Only a few weeks ago my dc was telling about a child who asked to go to toilet, teacher assumed he's messing about and said no, child was sick all over his desk. That's primary.

Some people clearly never spent their summers term surrounded by teenage boys forced to wear polyester jackets 😅

It's about respect not control

I do think it's ridiculous but they do it to try to instill discipline. However, I think it's a method well past it's time. Concentrating on maths when you have a blazer on in summer and are sitting with the sun coming through the window is a bit much - especially when they deliberately ignore the request or say no.

Sounds like a very simple rule to remember and follow. Do you think your child will struggle to follow it?

We weren't allowed to remove blazers until the head decided it was hot enough, which was always past 30C. At the time I felt it was an awful power trip move that they implemented because they could, not for any good reason. 20 years later I feel exactly the same.

We have a local academy trust who has the rule, the check uniform in a line up every day, no talking in corridors and are supposed to walk in alphabetical order so "troublemakers" can be more easily identified.
It's ludicrous and no My children don't go there.

How would you be with 'bring a pen to lessons or face a detention'?

I wish you were right @Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue I really do.

Nope - in my children's schools, they have to remove their coats at all times, it doesn't matter whether they feel cold or not.

In the hot terms, they're not allowed to remove their blazers until term six. And only term six. All other terms their coat/blazer has to be in their locker. Bonkers!

Also more life skills such as financial planning would be more relevant than policing blazer.

I'm no fan of blazer rules, but I hardly think these two things are mutually exclusive. It's not as if schools are having a whole lesson devoted to teaching blazer rules!

I suggest that there may be potential health and safety issues especially in hot weather

In some schools knives get hidden in coats, in most schools phones do.

Edited to change a word.

it is one of the stupidest of the many batshit school uniform rules in the UK.

Ridiculous.

Ask if they have done a risk assessment for hot weather

I agree with unform

But it needs to be practical, comfortable, not scruffy and affordable (which means no specialist shops for any of it)

There must be a school somewhere that's got this right

I find the concept that parents are never allowed to question school rules interesting. It wouldn't apply in any other aspect of society where arbitrary and unnecessary rules were put in place and people would absolutely be encouraged to speak up, take action etc.

But if they're hot, they can ask permission to remove the blazer.

Why is it necessary to ask to remove a blazer in order to show respect? You show respect by... being respectful. Speaking politely, not interrupting, using appropriate language. That sort of thing.

They are, to an extent. Schools also expect parents to support them in the same way parents expect schools to support them.

Primary schools? What's wrong with the classic polo shirt, optional jumper/cardi and black/grey bottoms?

By asking out of courtesy if you can do something is more respectful than blindly doing it and screw the consequences. It's about more than blazers.

Are the heel compulsory as that’s now against the law in any work place.

I am a lawyer working for an international law firm and don’t have a dress code like this. I haven’t worn a jacket or high heels for at least 15 years!

I think blazers, shirts and ties are ridiculous for children. Why can’t their uniform be something more comfortable? Thankfully my DC’s uniform is a polo shirt and either a jumper or hoody. There don’t seem to be any problems with discipline so I’m not convinced good discipline is anything to do with wearing blazers. And not being allowed to take them off at will is a pointless rule.

This.