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Please help me to sit on my hands and not write this message.

157 replies

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:30

My eldest DD split up with her boyfriend of five years in the summer. She had introduced him to her friendship group from school and he and his friends became part of this group and they all hung out together, went to parties etc.

The last year of the relationship was pretty awful for my DD. Her boyfriend would drink too much and become verbally abusive towards both her and other friends in the group. He would push her around and although he didn’t actually hit her, she became pretty scared of his unpredictability when he was drunk. She didn’t talk to us about this until they had split up. We saw a placid and sweet, if a little sad at times, guy that we had grown to love and care about as a family.

His mental health took a decline in the last two years they were together and we helped him to find a counsellor and gave him as much support as we could at this time. He was reluctant to talk to his parents and we did what we could to help while maintaining an appropriate amount of distance. We also encouraged him to talk to his parents which he ultimately did in the end, and they were very supportive and helpful when he opened up to them.

DDs female friends would tell her she needed to split up with him constantly toward the end. They saw this destructive behaviour from him and were at the receiving end of it many times. They were concerned for DD and the effect it was having on her. So in the summer DD had got to breaking point and broke the relationship off.

Since then DDs friendship group from school has completely ostracised her. Her closest friend dating back to primary school (and the most vocal about the relationships toxicity) has stopped messaging her and coming round. We were very close to her as a family and supported her through the toughest of times. I have taken her to hospital appointments and out for lunch afterwards for example. She’s been to family celebrations throughout the years and has basically been a part of our family since my DD became friends with her at the age of five.

My DD is devastated that her closest friend has sided with her ex, knowing all the details about how he was towards her during their relationship. There are constant posts of the friend and ex out together on social media. Just those two and as part of the wider friendship group. There was radio silence from her at Christmas and new year. There is no romantic involvement or interest from either side, I know that 100% so it’s utterly baffling. My DD has no friends to celebrate her upcoming 21st with and is understandably confused and very upset. I can’t help but feel really disappointed with this girl we have known and been close to as a whole family for so long, but I know I need to maintain a healthy distance from this situation.

I so desperately want to message her and tell her hurtful her behaviour has been towards my daughter and supposed best friend, but I know this is being far too involved in my daughters business. But it’s no exaggeration to say that my DD is devastated by this sudden withdrawal of friendship and she’s so so lonely right now. I’ve advised her to unfollow all of them on social media so she can’t see their posts, but she’s yet to do this. I won’t write this message to her but I really really want to!!

I guess what I’m asking for is some reinforcement from the wise mumsnetters to remind me of why this would be a bad idea, because my fingers are hovering over the keys right now.

Thank you for reading to the end of a ridiculously long post. As I write this I realise how overly invested I seem. I’m just so sad for my DD and disappointed in her friend’s choices.

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shellyleppard · 07/01/2025 13:33

Op I would write the letter but not send it..... sometimes just getting the words out can help. Agree though your daughter has been treated horribly by her so called friend

InkHeart2024 · 07/01/2025 13:33

She's an adult. Absolutely don't do this, it would be an awful thing to do.

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 13:34

I don’t understand. Her friends were urging her to finish the relationship so it’s illogical that this would be the reason for ostracising her. There’s something else going on here that you don’t know about. And of course you shouldn’t interfere.

Shoxfordian · 07/01/2025 13:35

Don't involve yourself

My mum wrote to an ex of mine once. I was annoyed about it, massive overstep

biscuitsandbooks · 07/01/2025 13:37

Don't get involved.

I would also bet good money that the "friend" and the ex have feelings for each other.

Tittat50 · 07/01/2025 13:37

Definitely keep out. I do think encouraging her to mute or whatever one can do to disengage in SM is what I would focus on right now. This will be magnifying and prolonging all her upset ten fold.

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:37

Thank you. This is exactly what I plan to do. Even just writing this post has helped.

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titchy · 07/01/2025 13:39

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 13:34

I don’t understand. Her friends were urging her to finish the relationship so it’s illogical that this would be the reason for ostracising her. There’s something else going on here that you don’t know about. And of course you shouldn’t interfere.

Yeah does sound odd. I know you've said there's no romantic interest between ex and former friend, but this definitely sounds like there could be - why else would she take his side all of a sudden?

Do the rest of her old friendship group feel the same - take this rogue friend out of the equation - could she approach one of the others to see what's really going on. Is rogue friend a dominant character who has turned the rest of the group against her - perhaps because she has designs/a relationship with the ex?

Daisyvodka · 07/01/2025 13:40

Gently - I think you are being very naive about the friend and the ex being together now - it's the only explanation for any of this.
Write it, don't send it, burn it - it will make you feel better. So sorry your DD is going through this!

Lammveg · 07/01/2025 13:41

This actually happened to me.
My ex and 'friend' ended up together.

It's a distant memory now, although I'm sure it feels awful at the minute. All you can do is put your efforts towards supporting DD. I agree write the letter but don't send it.

Hesonlyakidharry · 07/01/2025 13:41

Is this guy sort of the central “lad” in the group? And if they cut him, they lose all the boys he brought with him when he and your daughter merged their friendship groups?

NeverEatShreddiesWheat · 07/01/2025 13:41

Write and don’t send. Poisonous post-break up letters only make the sender look deranged and can be used against you. You definitely don’t know all the details here and your daughter won’t thank you.

Write him off, console your daughter/rejoice in her luck escape and make good your lives.

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:41

My DD has a new boyfriend and I suspect it’s something to do with this. The emotional manipulation that she was subjected to my her ex at the end, I suspect has transferred to others in the friendship group.

In addition, DDs ‘best friend’ became very close to DDs ex’s best friend and I think it’s as much about not wanted to break the whole group up as anything else. I don’t really think it’s about my DD at all. Just a need to keep the group together and it’s easiest to ostracise my DD from it than split themselves in half, if that makes sense.

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titchy · 07/01/2025 13:42

Rogue friend could also be involved with one of the ex's friendship group and wants to keep hanging out with them, which means hanging out with ex.

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:42

Thank you. This is what I needed to hear, and I’ll keep it in mind every time I want to write that message.

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titchy · 07/01/2025 13:43

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:41

My DD has a new boyfriend and I suspect it’s something to do with this. The emotional manipulation that she was subjected to my her ex at the end, I suspect has transferred to others in the friendship group.

In addition, DDs ‘best friend’ became very close to DDs ex’s best friend and I think it’s as much about not wanted to break the whole group up as anything else. I don’t really think it’s about my DD at all. Just a need to keep the group together and it’s easiest to ostracise my DD from it than split themselves in half, if that makes sense.

Cross posts - yeah that does make sense sadly.

Porcuporpoise · 07/01/2025 13:43

Just keep reiterating to your dd that she made the right decision when she broke things off. She can do better than him and better than her so called friend.

I can quite see why you want to tell the "friend" what a two-faced bitch she is but honestly, don't. Nothing good can come of it.

nestingvillage · 07/01/2025 13:44

I don't think you sound over invested, just a concerned and lovely mum who needs somewhere to vent. Your instincts to write but not send are sound.

It's horrible seeing your young adult children going through tough times and I don't envy you but you will get through it and there will be brighter times ahead.

Mnetcurious · 07/01/2025 13:46

It’s quite possible that the ex has told the rest of them a load of complete lies, leading to them all siding with him. A friend of mine was in an emotionally abusive relationship but when she finally ended it, he went round telling everyone that he had been the one being abused - the complete opposite of the truth. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is the case and even to those who’ve witnessed his bad behaviour, he has ‘justified’ it in some way because he’s really the true victim.
I also agree with pps that it sounds like something may be going on with the friend and the ex.

FlamingGalar · 07/01/2025 13:48

Daisyvodka · 07/01/2025 13:40

Gently - I think you are being very naive about the friend and the ex being together now - it's the only explanation for any of this.
Write it, don't send it, burn it - it will make you feel better. So sorry your DD is going through this!

Definitely no romantic involvement. As obvious as this seems to be the case, it’s absolutely not, although I do think there’s a relevance to them being the opposite sexes. These are the only male friends most of the girls in the group have and this holds significance for them.

I think perhaps my DD just thought her friendship with these people was more meaningful than her friends did.

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Oreyt · 07/01/2025 13:50

The friend already knows what you've done for her so bringing that up wouldn't make much difference.

If your dd was under 18/19 I'd probably message her but not 20.

I've had similar with dds friends (12 and 14) and I don't message the mums but some of the other mums message constantly about the other kids.

Why are you so sure they aren't romantically involved?

Oreyt · 07/01/2025 13:52

The friend is male?

Oreyt · 07/01/2025 13:53

Oh no she isn't. Confused.

Hedgerow2 · 07/01/2025 13:55

You absolutely won't know everything so best to keep out.

Writing might make you feel better temporarily but it won't achieve anything. Even if the friend was contrite (unlikely) and wanted to make amends, your dd doesn't need friends like that.

She may not have any close friends at the moment but she does have a new boyfriend she can celebrate her 21st with. If they don't have much money maybe you could treat them to a meal out/night in a nice hotel/theatre tickets on her actual birthday.

LaDeeDaDeeDa · 07/01/2025 13:55

Write a letter if it makes you feel better getting your angst out but absolutely do not send it.

What would happen if they became friends again?

Be there to console your daughter and raise her spirits but don't meddle or stick your beak in.