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To think no one would pronounce this name right

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eastereggg · 07/01/2025 09:47

How would you pronounce the 'name' Eieoie?

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Hankunamatata · 07/01/2025 10:53

E O E
Pronounced by letter names

beetr00 · 07/01/2025 10:53

@eastereggg

You are joking obviously! PP's have linked both of these.

Move on MN'ers, nothing to see here 😂

www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/23397448/babys-name-people-joke-old-mcdonalds-farm-cant-pronounce/

www.reddit.com/r/tragedeigh/comments/15kkxnp/they_had_a_sale_on_vowels_at_old_mcdonalds_farm/

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 10:56

Hoppinggreen · 07/01/2025 10:52

To ryhme with Zoe - I O E

That's how they're pronouncing it. I O E

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Scorchio84 · 07/01/2025 10:59

"One of those Irish names.." 🙄

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:00

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 10:56

That's how they're pronouncing it. I O E

Like how? Eye oh ee? How does that rhyme with Zoe?

MigsandTiggs · 07/01/2025 11:01

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 10:56

That's how they're pronouncing it. I O E

Then that's an unfortunate name if you live in the Caribbean, as that's how you rudely call out to someone when you don't know their name.

edited to add apostrophe

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:01

CurlewKate · 07/01/2025 10:51

@OchonAgusOchonOh "For some reason Irish names get ridiculed on MN for being "unpronounceable" to the English, predominantly monoglot, ears/eyes"

They shouldn't, of course, be ridiculed. But they will be mispronounced. It's impossible for monoglot English people to even make an educated guess about Irish pronunciation in a way the might be able to about Italian or French names.

I have no problem with people having difficulty with how to pronounce a foreign name. However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.

When I worked in England, there was an English woman I worked with who badly mispronounced my name. I corrected her only to be told she preferred the way she said it so would continue to use that pronunciation. I was young at the time so just ignored her but my reaction would be very different these days.

And it's really no more difficult to figure out how to pronounce Irish names than any other foreign name if you make an effort. I think it's fairly safe to say that many, many French and Italian names that have not made it in to common usage in the English language are brutally mangled by English speakers. I would certainly include myself in that, which is why I always ask how to pronounce a name I'm unfamiliar with.

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:03

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:00

Like how? Eye oh ee? How does that rhyme with Zoe?

Edited

Zoe - Zowie
Ioe - Eye-owie

Aliflowers · 07/01/2025 11:06

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2025 10:40

That’s why I said ‘to my English eyes’ - did you not understand what I meant? Maybe I should have said ‘English-speaking…’

No, I wouldn’t say the same about a German or Italian name, since I did A level German, and having studied it for a while I do understand Italian spelling/pronunciation.
If you’d said Norwegian or Finnish, OTOH….

My issue wasn’t with your “English eyes comment” rather the “those Irish names”. It was completely derogatory. You may not have intended it that way but it’s how it read.

Needmoresleep · 07/01/2025 11:08

Add a hyphen then X and it could be the name of Elon Musk's latest child.

JustMyView13 · 07/01/2025 11:10

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:01

I have no problem with people having difficulty with how to pronounce a foreign name. However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.

When I worked in England, there was an English woman I worked with who badly mispronounced my name. I corrected her only to be told she preferred the way she said it so would continue to use that pronunciation. I was young at the time so just ignored her but my reaction would be very different these days.

And it's really no more difficult to figure out how to pronounce Irish names than any other foreign name if you make an effort. I think it's fairly safe to say that many, many French and Italian names that have not made it in to common usage in the English language are brutally mangled by English speakers. I would certainly include myself in that, which is why I always ask how to pronounce a name I'm unfamiliar with.

I have such an ordinary ‘popular in England’ name, and people mispronounce it all the time when they’re reading it out.

It fascinates me seeing how people butcher it. I’m not gonna out myself, but there are a couple of household TV personalities with the same name. So just to say, I don’t think it’s exclusively just English people butchering names, I think it goes all ways.

I usually just laugh, and let them carry on.

Bumcake · 07/01/2025 11:12

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:00

Like how? Eye oh ee? How does that rhyme with Zoe?

Edited

How does it not?

Is it really a name though? Imagine having to spell that out and explain it daily.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:14

@eastereggg a bit like the poor child who was named abcde! prononced absidee!

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:15

Bumcake · 07/01/2025 11:12

How does it not?

Is it really a name though? Imagine having to spell that out and explain it daily.

Eye oh ee does not rhyme with Zoe. Just because the last bit rhymes doesn’t mean the name rhymes.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:15

@eastereggg well come on, how is it pronounced then??

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:15

JustMyView13 · 07/01/2025 11:10

I have such an ordinary ‘popular in England’ name, and people mispronounce it all the time when they’re reading it out.

It fascinates me seeing how people butcher it. I’m not gonna out myself, but there are a couple of household TV personalities with the same name. So just to say, I don’t think it’s exclusively just English people butchering names, I think it goes all ways.

I usually just laugh, and let them carry on.

I said English speakers, not English people.

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 11:15

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 07/01/2025 11:15

@eastereggg well come on, how is it pronounced then??

I O E

Ey-oh-we

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SushiWarrior · 07/01/2025 11:15

Not sure but it does immediately make me want to sing old McDonald….

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:16

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:01

I have no problem with people having difficulty with how to pronounce a foreign name. However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.

When I worked in England, there was an English woman I worked with who badly mispronounced my name. I corrected her only to be told she preferred the way she said it so would continue to use that pronunciation. I was young at the time so just ignored her but my reaction would be very different these days.

And it's really no more difficult to figure out how to pronounce Irish names than any other foreign name if you make an effort. I think it's fairly safe to say that many, many French and Italian names that have not made it in to common usage in the English language are brutally mangled by English speakers. I would certainly include myself in that, which is why I always ask how to pronounce a name I'm unfamiliar with.

I don't know if you have spent much time in France or Italy but I can cheerfully confirm that the French and the Italians are just as bad as the British when it comes to the brutal mangling of names!

OTannenbaumOTannenbaum · 07/01/2025 11:16

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 11:15

I O E

Ey-oh-we

Poor kid

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:16

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:16

I don't know if you have spent much time in France or Italy but I can cheerfully confirm that the French and the Italians are just as bad as the British when it comes to the brutal mangling of names!

Yes, I know but we were discussing English speakers so I limited my comment to those.

YellowPixie · 07/01/2025 11:17

I'd pronounce it "my-parents-are-idiots-and-allergic-to-consonants".

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:15

Eye oh ee does not rhyme with Zoe. Just because the last bit rhymes doesn’t mean the name rhymes.

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

crockofshite · 07/01/2025 11:18

Aliflowers · 07/01/2025 11:06

My issue wasn’t with your “English eyes comment” rather the “those Irish names”. It was completely derogatory. You may not have intended it that way but it’s how it read.

you're coming across as a professional victim.

It's unrealistic to expect anyone to know how to pronounce a jumble of random letters - unless they are from the same country / region / village where the name originates.

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:21

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 10:56

That's how they're pronouncing it. I O E

I've been staring at 'Eieoie' for several minutes now, trying to find a phonetically plausible relationship between those letters and that pronunciation. It can't be done, even with diacritics. Poor child.

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