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To think no one would pronounce this name right

286 replies

eastereggg · 07/01/2025 09:47

How would you pronounce the 'name' Eieoie?

OP posts:
Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:21

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

Can you explain how ‘eye oh ee’ rhymes with Zoe?

Showy rhymes with Zoe, but not ‘eye oh ee’.

Hdjdb42 · 07/01/2025 11:24

IOE??! Haven't the foggiest how to pronounce it. Can see a lifetime of correcting people for this kid.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2025 11:24

Aliflowers · 07/01/2025 11:06

My issue wasn’t with your “English eyes comment” rather the “those Irish names”. It was completely derogatory. You may not have intended it that way but it’s how it read.

Well, it certainly wasn’t intended to be at all derogatory. I meant ‘those’ as in ‘that certain number of…’ - names which someone like me would have no idea how to pronounce without asking. E.g. the name of my Irish friend’s niece (Aine) who once joined us all on holiday. Having added her name to the booking, I had to ask.
But please feel free to continue to feel offended.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/01/2025 11:27

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:17

@OchonAgusOchonOh , However, If you are told how to pronounce it, it shouldn't be mispronounced, or at least not too badly.
Some names have sounds that don't exist in English. How bad is 'too badly'?

What would you do with a Welsh name like Pwyll or Lleucu? Both lovely names BTW but only one letter is of each is a sound you get in English.

Are you saying that something like Lack-lun is ok for Lachlan but Latch-lun wouldn't be?

@Choccyscofffy , you don't seem to understand what rhyming means.

Be be honest, I'm pretty flexible provided you make an effort. My name is regularly mispronounced by other Irish people as the anglicised pronunciation is more common whereas I pronounce it according to the local Irish dialect. Generally, the only people who pronounce it correctly are native Irish speakers and I'm fine with that. I do, however, have a problem who correct my pronunciation. I tell them my name is X. They ask me to repeat it. I do. They then say "Oh, you mean Y". No, I don't. If I meant Y, I would have said Y. You'd be surprised at how often that happens, particularly on the phone.

Wrt Lachlan, I think if you listened to the pronunciation and the sounds were not part of your vocabulary, you would hear Locklun or Lacklun. You would not hear Latchlun. To continue to use Latchlun would be rude as it would show you weren't listening or trying to make an effort. A bit like the English woman saying to me she preferred her pronunciation so would continue to use it.

Zonder · 07/01/2025 11:29

The question isn't how, but why?

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:30

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:21

Can you explain how ‘eye oh ee’ rhymes with Zoe?

Showy rhymes with Zoe, but not ‘eye oh ee’.

Zoe - Zo-wy
Eieoie - Eye-o-wy

A bit like how Ione (Eye-o-nee) rhymes with Joanie or Irene rhymes with Jeanie.

curious79 · 07/01/2025 11:33

Right now I'm imagining Dory trying to speak whale in one of the Nemo cartoon films.

Literally no idea and I'm pretty good with languages.

Choccyscofffy · 07/01/2025 11:33

HugoYorway · 07/01/2025 11:30

Zoe - Zo-wy
Eieoie - Eye-o-wy

A bit like how Ione (Eye-o-nee) rhymes with Joanie or Irene rhymes with Jeanie.

OP said it’s pronounced I O E (eye oh ee), not Eye o wy.

Even then your version doesn’t rhyme.

GetyourheadoutoftheovenIris · 07/01/2025 11:35

I wouldn’t be able to guess (although just saw your post explaining) so I would politely ask the person how to spell it.

What is your AIBU though? To ask? To use it? That someone is called it?

Edited to apologise for being a massive dick. The aibu is in the title and I am an incompetent idiot.

Ontopofthesunset · 07/01/2025 11:40

Ei-oh-ee absolutely does rhyme with Zoe, which is pronounced Zoh-ee by everyone I know. And I guess the pp was trying to show another way of writing 'ee' by using 'wy' as in 'showy', because the 'o' followed by the long 'ee' sound in English leads to elision, so that speakers insert a 'w' sound between the two vowels.

RedOnyx · 07/01/2025 11:40

Eye-oh-ee. Or maybe Yo-ee. I initially read it as e-i-e-i-o though!

Sherararara · 07/01/2025 11:41

Eeyore?

Tagyoureit · 07/01/2025 11:42

With donkey noises!

Travelodge · 07/01/2025 11:44

Why would anyone sane want to saddle their poor child with a name that no-one else will ever know how to spell if they just hear it or pronounce if they just see it written? (And yes, I’ve googled it and it doesn’t seem to be a name from another language.)
If this is really happening it’s downright cruel of the parents (who presumably are thinking only of what image they hope it will project of themselves).

Dreamingoftheunknown · 07/01/2025 11:45

crockofshite · 07/01/2025 11:18

you're coming across as a professional victim.

It's unrealistic to expect anyone to know how to pronounce a jumble of random letters - unless they are from the same country / region / village where the name originates.

Ah seriously.
That’s worse than pp’s previous comment.
Irish names (or names from any country) are not jumbles of random letters!

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 07/01/2025 11:46

I -oh-ee ?

starfishmummy · 07/01/2025 11:46

Why do I want to start singing "Old MacDonald Had a Farm"? So E I E I O...

LookItsMeAgain · 07/01/2025 11:47

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2025 09:51

Ee-oh-ee.
But perhaps it’s one of those Irish names whose pronunciation (to my English eyes anyway) bears no relation to how it’s spelt.

Edited

Just so I understand your post @GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER - you had originally posted just a pronunciation attempt, but then you went back to edit the post and threw in a bit of negativity towards Irish names....just for the fun of it???

I would have to agree with @OchonAgusOchonOh that there is a very anti-Irish sentiment relating to names. I really don't think that the English/British (I put English first as I don't think the Scottish or Welsh are as prolific in doing this but you may find the odd one or two that are) have anything to write home about when they claim that Boatswain is actually pronounced Bo-sun, and Coxswain is pronounced Cox-sun, the parts of a Tall Boy piece of furniture that slide in and out and store clothes that are folded are drawers and not draws (as that is a verb and not a noun) and I could go on and on.

It doesn't matter that she asked whether you would make a similar joke about mispronouncing French or German names and you came back with some nonsense about Swedish or Norwegian names, the fact is that you went for the low hanging fruit here and, while you're not alone you were the first, had a go at Irish names like Caoimhe or Aoife or Tadhg.

The prejudice against the Irish is strong on this thread.

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 07/01/2025 11:48

When you say 'the name Eieoie', is it actually a name?

VickyEadieofThigh · 07/01/2025 11:48

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 07/01/2025 09:54

Seriously I am genuinely asking. OP is this a real name or have you made one up?

Either way that kind is in for a lifetime of mispronunciation, confusion on spelling and ridicule.

Folds 66 year old arms I went to primary school in 1963. Not a single name in my class was difficult to pronounce. These days it must be a feckin' nightmare for teachers (and I used to be one!).

LookItsMeAgain · 07/01/2025 11:48

Kitchenspade · 07/01/2025 09:49

Is it Irish? Efah?

No, not Irish.

Aoife has an "F" in it, fgs!!!!

Have you been to Specsavers recently???

ElaborateCushion · 07/01/2025 11:49

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/01/2025 09:51

Ee-oh-ee.
But perhaps it’s one of those Irish names whose pronunciation (to my English eyes anyway) bears no relation to how it’s spelt.

Edited

This was my first thought too!

Seems we weren't far off.

As a PP said, it's a bit too "Old MacDonald" for me and will give the poor kid no end of grief at school.

Turophilic · 07/01/2025 11:50

PuntoEBasta · 07/01/2025 11:21

I've been staring at 'Eieoie' for several minutes now, trying to find a phonetically plausible relationship between those letters and that pronunciation. It can't be done, even with diacritics. Poor child.

I think it can - Greek convention maybe?Where the second vowel is pronounced. Like Oestrogen (Eest-roh-jen) or Aegean (Ee-jee-ann)

ei= Eye
eo= Oh
ie= Ee

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 07/01/2025 11:51

Damnloginpopup · 07/01/2025 09:48

By screaming.

I'm still laughing at this!

I'd assume it was "eerie" as in the word for something spooky.

trainboundfornowhere · 07/01/2025 11:51

crockofshite · 07/01/2025 11:18

you're coming across as a professional victim.

It's unrealistic to expect anyone to know how to pronounce a jumble of random letters - unless they are from the same country / region / village where the name originates.

I take it that Marsaili, Eilidh and Mhairi are just a random collection of letters then as they too stem from a language other than English. You are coming across as ignorant.

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