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To think Elon Musk has gone nuts

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Viviennemary · 06/01/2025 18:15

What on earth is going on with him. Calling for Nagel Farage to resign. Now wanting the PM to resign amd said we have a tyrannical government. It's all a bit odd.

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Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:05

Gone12 · 07/01/2025 07:57

Guy looks like an alien or a robot.

And? What’s that adding? Sigh!

Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:10

SallyWD · 07/01/2025 08:05

I think he is dangerous. He's not like your average Joe Bloggs posting about other countries, he's one of the richest and most influential men in the world. He's also in bed with one of the most powerful men in the world (Trump). I'm sure he influences him. Not only this but he controls one of the world's most widely used social media platform, X. He has completely changed the algorithms. I'm a left leaning person who followed people like Jeremy Corbyn, but even my feed became full of right wing racist post, many of which I knew were blatantly untrue. He plays a key part in riling people up and contributes to civil unrest.

I’d argue that’s better than an echo chamber? Would you prefer to have your feed full of leftist propaganda instead? Algorithms are dangerous full stop.

You do realise all social media does this, especially Facebook, you’re more likely to engage with something you disagree with. That’s all they care about- engagement because that means more money. Do people think social media can be a neutral place???

Yes he does wind people up, but only because they allow themselves to be wound up by him. Instead of obsessing about left/right wing we need to address the underlying issues why people are allowing themselves to be so manipulated. People concentrating on musk are really just adding to the problem.

Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:17

askmenow · 07/01/2025 01:42

Hear hear! There’s a load of numptys on here. Get over yourselves.

Yep. I think many people do have an issue hearing views that don’t tie in with their own. This is the dangerous thing, much more dangerous than Musk (although he does like the whole divide and conquer narrative) why are people silly enough to fall for it again and again?

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 08:27

@Feelingathomenow Most people don't really have an issue with Musk saying the UK has a problem with CSA and needs to sort it....

However, he has gone far further, his platform is calling for murder and revolution.... posts calling for Starmer execution are still up there, he tweets that Phillips deserves what she gets....

Its a huge difference and i'm not really sure why you seem unable to recognise the difference between debate and incitement.

7plusthinking · 07/01/2025 08:35

Barr77 · 07/01/2025 00:03

The overuse of the term "far-right" significantly weakens its impact and risks oversimplifying complex political ideologies. When such labels are applied too broadly or carelessly, we end up on dangerous ground by diluting their meaning, making it harder to call out actual extremism.

Repeated too often, the term becomes just another buzzword, losing its effectiveness and failing to convey the weight it once did.
On the sex and gender board, a poster pointed out that accusations of transphobia now often elicit an eye roll (outside the student union).

I think that has more to do with the normalisation of far right views more than anything.

A lot of this involves pushing back on any criticism of repugnant views as part of a woke, controlling virus ( Musk) This is especially true with transphobia.

FennelPotion · 07/01/2025 08:36

It's silly to say Elon is nuts. He has an agenda and has the means and expertise to meddle fiercely in European state affairs. He's doing so already and supporting right wing politics across Europe. It's typical Mumsnet ignorance to lament how crazy and loony people like Farage, Trump Elon are. They're not crazy, they're strategic and very popular.

One good thing to come from the spotlight on gangs systemically and brutally abusing children, is that it's now a lead story on BBC News. That's the BBC we're talking about...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Allowing people to talk openly about immigration and airing concerns has become quiet impossible as there is an understandable fear of people rioting about these sort of issues as we have seen in the summer, which is a danger to peace in our country.

The sad, sad truth is that our politicians are and have been extremely weak and driven by self interest. There are no competent politicians and Starmer is the absolute opposite of a leader. In regards to men with Pakistani heritage or nationality systemically abusing children in the UK and local authorities turning a blind eye, that's simply despicable Angry. It's not an issue of race per se though, rather it's that certain groups of men are protected by society. In this case it's men from minority backgrounds (and often Labour voters / councillors); previously it was church leaders or popular BBC celebrities such as Jimmy Saville. The problem is that some groups of men are untouchable and girls (sometimes boys too) are accepted as collateral damage by our politicians. Elon is simply tapping into the understandable anger about this as most of the abuse scandals are swept under the carpet. It's a simple and effective political strategy, not mental illness.

Of course Elon has no interest in protecting children's or women's rights, so much is obvious. There is a drive to right leaning politics and we are seeing some 'strong leader' politics emerging in the US and Europe, supported by Elon and others. It will be interesting where this takes us or if it's all just a whole lot of hot air covering up the fact that the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. The more inequality in society, the more danger to women and children.

Of course it's true that the population in the US and Europe has seismically changed since the post war period. It's up to each individual whether they believe that's positive or negative. What we should expect rom our politicians is integrity and leadership, sadly we are not getting that and Elon is simply exploiting a power vacuum.

cessnaflyer · 07/01/2025 08:41

user1471538283 · 07/01/2025 07:50

I agree he is nuts and I think we shouldn't engage with him but keep a very close eye on him. He reminds me of Amin and his nuttery with the Queen and our PM then. Amin was a criminal and Musk probably is.

It also worries me that taking too much notice of him hides whatever fuckery Trump is or will be up to. Musk thinks he's got Trump over a barrel but I bet it's the other way around.

Musk would see the world burn to be king of the ashes. Like Trump.

He's 'probably' a criminal? This is scary.

cessnaflyer · 07/01/2025 08:43

By the way people are allowed to disagree with you.

That doesn't make them scum automatically. Stop being played and let people debate.

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2025 08:46

People saying ‘oh we should just ignore Musk’ are so fucking stupid it beggars belief. The President he significantly helped re-elect went on about stolen, fraudulent elections and sparked an insurrection where people were killed (and now wants to pardon those involved).

Musk is tweeting to the world that the U.K. government is tyrannical and corrupt, that the Prime Minister is complicit in mass child rape and the cover-up of child rape. He is tweeting ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ and circulating Robinson’s disinformation film to millions. He’s saying, incorrectly, that Robinson is in prison for telling the truth about child rape gangs, and that he is in prison as part of a government cover-up to protect Starmer.

We had riots last summer. Terrible riots, where shops were looted, property destroyed, people were injured and mobs tried to kill refugees.

What the fuck do the ‘let’s just pat him on the head’ crowd think is going to happen when Robinson is released? Where all this is headed?

Viviennemary · 07/01/2025 08:50

Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:10

I’d argue that’s better than an echo chamber? Would you prefer to have your feed full of leftist propaganda instead? Algorithms are dangerous full stop.

You do realise all social media does this, especially Facebook, you’re more likely to engage with something you disagree with. That’s all they care about- engagement because that means more money. Do people think social media can be a neutral place???

Yes he does wind people up, but only because they allow themselves to be wound up by him. Instead of obsessing about left/right wing we need to address the underlying issues why people are allowing themselves to be so manipulated. People concentrating on musk are really just adding to the problem.

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But the point is that Elon Musk's witterings are headline news even on the BBC. It was after watching the news that it brought his utterances to my attention.

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MsGrumpytrousers · 07/01/2025 08:50

ElizabethTaylorsEyebrow · 06/01/2025 18:31

He’s just more visible these days. But this has always been his personality.

He is clearly extremely erratic, narcissistic, power-hungry, arrogant, attention-seeking and impulsive by nature. But I can only imagine his unique position in the world exacerbates all these traits enormously.

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He, and a lot of other people, seem to have fallen for the fallacy that if you make a lot of money it means you must be clever.

Nope, it just means you're good at making money – or that you were lucky.

Hyperbowl · 07/01/2025 08:56

WestwardHo1 · 06/01/2025 20:34

Yeah @Almn0etd seems rather, I don't know, male?

If they’re not male then they are an exceptionally disappointing female with phenomenally low standards. Hysterical and frothing at the mouth indeed. 🙄🙄 In my experience the only kind of person who would be dense enough to attempt to use this as any sort of “comeback” when blatantly being successfully contradicted is a man.

I’ve never known a woman to use such outdated and feeble attempts to win a discussion.

SallyWD · 07/01/2025 08:59

Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:10

I’d argue that’s better than an echo chamber? Would you prefer to have your feed full of leftist propaganda instead? Algorithms are dangerous full stop.

You do realise all social media does this, especially Facebook, you’re more likely to engage with something you disagree with. That’s all they care about- engagement because that means more money. Do people think social media can be a neutral place???

Yes he does wind people up, but only because they allow themselves to be wound up by him. Instead of obsessing about left/right wing we need to address the underlying issues why people are allowing themselves to be so manipulated. People concentrating on musk are really just adding to the problem.

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I agree that echo chambers aren't good and I do actively seek out opposing views to mine. However, I would argue that Elon has made X an echo chamber. It's now impossible to escape the views he supports. What I think is dangerous is the widespread sharing of misinformation and blatant lies in some cases. I fact check things I read online from all perspectives and I can see when things are false or being exaggerated. This is dangerous because people do go out and burn asylum centres of attack mosques because of what they see on X. Yes, I absolutely agree with you that we need to examine why people react to social media posts this way. Why are people so easily manipulated? However, in the meantime, sharing false information is leading to unrest.
No I don't expect social media to be neutral but I haven't had the same problems with Facebook or Instagram. On these platforms I tend to see what I want to see (nature, recipes, friends photos etc - as opposed to endless posts demonising Muslims).

Goldenbear · 07/01/2025 09:12

Feelingathomenow · 07/01/2025 08:17

Yep. I think many people do have an issue hearing views that don’t tie in with their own. This is the dangerous thing, much more dangerous than Musk (although he does like the whole divide and conquer narrative) why are people silly enough to fall for it again and again?

It is fine to have opinions and express them but it isn't fine for people to impose them on others and expect them to fall in line.

Extreme right or left wing views are always knee jerk reactions, negative and good at pulling things down and criticising and highlighting what is wrong but solutions and optimism are more important in improving people's lives IMO.

AnonymousBleep · 07/01/2025 09:52

MsGrumpytrousers · 07/01/2025 08:50

He, and a lot of other people, seem to have fallen for the fallacy that if you make a lot of money it means you must be clever.

Nope, it just means you're good at making money – or that you were lucky.

It's easy to make lots of money if you start off with lots of money. I doubt Musk would be the richest man in the world - or even rich - if his daddy had driven a dustbin lorry instead of owning diamond mines.

BourbonsAreOverated · 07/01/2025 10:43

I’m going to send Jess a card
I watched her acceptance at the elections (look it up it’s fucking abhorrent) and now this.
I hope she knows people appreciate her

user243245346 · 07/01/2025 10:50

There was a lot more censorship of Twitter before Elon Musk took over. I don't know why people are so alarmed about him expressing opinions- he's not forcing them on anyone. If you don't want to know you can block him

user243245346 · 07/01/2025 10:58

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2025 08:46

People saying ‘oh we should just ignore Musk’ are so fucking stupid it beggars belief. The President he significantly helped re-elect went on about stolen, fraudulent elections and sparked an insurrection where people were killed (and now wants to pardon those involved).

Musk is tweeting to the world that the U.K. government is tyrannical and corrupt, that the Prime Minister is complicit in mass child rape and the cover-up of child rape. He is tweeting ‘Free Tommy Robinson’ and circulating Robinson’s disinformation film to millions. He’s saying, incorrectly, that Robinson is in prison for telling the truth about child rape gangs, and that he is in prison as part of a government cover-up to protect Starmer.

We had riots last summer. Terrible riots, where shops were looted, property destroyed, people were injured and mobs tried to kill refugees.

What the fuck do the ‘let’s just pat him on the head’ crowd think is going to happen when Robinson is released? Where all this is headed?

What are you suggesting? That no one can say anything in public that you disagree with? Why s ok you get to decide what is acceptable to say and what is not? Why are people who don't want to censor others you find objectionable "stupid"?

Elon musk remains a private citizen. He can say what he likes. Elon Musk had nothing to do with the riots in the summer and Tommy Robinson was jailed for an unrelated matter. I don't support Tommy Robinson but the idea that he had anything to do with the riots is ridiculous. He wasn't even in the country.

Ultimately we must have free speech and learn to tolerate people saying things we don't agree with. I don't agree with much of what Elon Musk says but he has the right to his opinions like anyone else.

Crikeyalmighty · 07/01/2025 11:03

@BourbonsAreOverated yep and if Elon wanted to actually help- which he doesn't , maybe stop picking on politicians who do a lot for the victims - Jess may not be everyone's cup of tea but she's a doer and I have a lot of time for her

EasternStandard · 07/01/2025 11:04

user243245346 · 07/01/2025 10:58

What are you suggesting? That no one can say anything in public that you disagree with? Why s ok you get to decide what is acceptable to say and what is not? Why are people who don't want to censor others you find objectionable "stupid"?

Elon musk remains a private citizen. He can say what he likes. Elon Musk had nothing to do with the riots in the summer and Tommy Robinson was jailed for an unrelated matter. I don't support Tommy Robinson but the idea that he had anything to do with the riots is ridiculous. He wasn't even in the country.

Ultimately we must have free speech and learn to tolerate people saying things we don't agree with. I don't agree with much of what Elon Musk says but he has the right to his opinions like anyone else.

Why are people who don't want to censor others you find objectionable "stupid"?

Not sure what people are after either, so outrage and airtime. It’s just feeding into the attention economy.

Fine if that’s what they’re wanting, it will expand his cut through though

user243245346 · 07/01/2025 11:05

katter · 07/01/2025 01:07

And there were inquiries into that so nobody was focusing solely on Trump.
But he did incite the riots that's a fact. And a former president not recognizing a lawful election is way more worrying.
But it seems you can buy yourself into the government anyway so it really doesn't matter anyway.

How is it a fact tho? He hasn't been convicted of anything in relation to the riots. I personally think Trump acted like an idiot narcissist but I wouldn't go as far as to say he is responsible for the riots (legally at least).

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 11:07

Who was responsible for them? Where do you think liability lies?

justasking111 · 07/01/2025 11:07

He's just put this up. Quite a reasonable point.

To think Elon Musk has gone nuts
PeppyGreenFinch · 07/01/2025 11:08

user243245346 · 07/01/2025 10:58

What are you suggesting? That no one can say anything in public that you disagree with? Why s ok you get to decide what is acceptable to say and what is not? Why are people who don't want to censor others you find objectionable "stupid"?

Elon musk remains a private citizen. He can say what he likes. Elon Musk had nothing to do with the riots in the summer and Tommy Robinson was jailed for an unrelated matter. I don't support Tommy Robinson but the idea that he had anything to do with the riots is ridiculous. He wasn't even in the country.

Ultimately we must have free speech and learn to tolerate people saying things we don't agree with. I don't agree with much of what Elon Musk says but he has the right to his opinions like anyone else.

Elon musk remains a private citizen. He can say what he likes.

Well, no he can’t, or shouldn’t. When his comments start to incite hatred he needs to be checked. There are laws against hate speech.

And his tweets are causing British far right supporters to threaten Jess Phillips. Did we not learn from the murder of Jo Cox by a far right supporter during the Brexit rhetoric around immigrants?

I don't support Tommy Robinson but the idea that he had anything to do with the riots is ridiculous. He wasn't even in the country.

Tommy was sending videos from his £400 per night resort in Portugal. He had a lot to do with it.

Ultimately we must have free speech and learn to tolerate people saying things we don't agree with

Again, there is no such thing as free speech. There are laws that govern what you can say.

Crikeyalmighty · 07/01/2025 11:08

@user243245346 that would be the Tommy Robinson with millions of deluded 'followers'( who he made very good money off) posting agitating rubbish that turned out to be rubbish just before those riots started. Him and Farage may not be actually out there causing trouble on a personal level , nope they just make money from others and have flag waving foot soldiers to do the dirty work. They know where their bread is buttered- same goes for people like Alison Pearson and Hartley brewer etc- wouldn't be suprised if they know they are talking shit but like the £300ka year etc

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