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To think BBC news is lost to us now - bloody Farage on this morning

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pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:28

Why is he being platformed yet again to repeat the surely libellous and undoubtedly inflammatory language about KS and JP spouting from Elon Musk. Saying it's free speech?! Just irresponsible and vile. Even the way he refers to the PM as Starmer is just so rude and disrespectful.

I'm a massive supporter of the BBC and the licence fee but the news branch has clearly been infested with Tory supporters in high places and it's just not what it was now.

It's reputation and standing is being shredded😓.

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JHound · 05/01/2025 17:04

Freysimo · 05/01/2025 16:30

I found it incredible that BBC deemed Stormzy's driving offences headline news.

Was the BBC the only outlet that reported that?

Is it unusual for a celebrity’s legal woes to be in the news?

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 17:10

JHound · 05/01/2025 17:04

Was the BBC the only outlet that reported that?

Is it unusual for a celebrity’s legal woes to be in the news?

If they didn't I could always argue that its another example of the BBC's leftwing bias by not wanting to report on a "darling" of the establishment who was feted as a hero on anti-racisim/anti-poverty causes but now that he is convicted of something terrible the BBC don't even want to report it... Wonder why Hmmetc etc etc

JHound · 05/01/2025 17:13

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 17:10

If they didn't I could always argue that its another example of the BBC's leftwing bias by not wanting to report on a "darling" of the establishment who was feted as a hero on anti-racisim/anti-poverty causes but now that he is convicted of something terrible the BBC don't even want to report it... Wonder why Hmmetc etc etc

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t eh!

yellowspanner · 05/01/2025 17:14

Reform is a registered political party. It's registered with the electoral
Commission

TempestTost · 05/01/2025 17:16

I also think it's a bit much to compare the Greens or even in many cases the Lib Dems on this topic. Have they said anything useful? Not really - maybe their lack of comment should be noted.

The fact is that Farage really hauls ass as far as getting his position out there to the public and commenting on things the public cares about. Greens, or whomever, may call that populist, but it's literally his job.

Media people will say that they always know if they want someone to make a public comment, Farage will oblige. Maybe other parties need to make a point of being more available as well, rather than staying silent rather than risk saying something people won't like.

swimsong · 05/01/2025 17:20

TempestTost · 05/01/2025 17:01

My working theory is that he came across it somewhere on the internet. Things are so much more global now. And deep down, Musk is a globalist, I don't think he really thinks of himself as an American first. (This may ultimately do him in as a political force on the American right.)

My impression is that he genuinely finds this kind of stuff against children upsetting and terrible. So he felt moved to say something. People talk about stuff from other countries all the time in the online world.

He doesn't really know how the Westminster system works though, or he wouldn't have said the King should just take the initiative and dissolve Parliament. And I think given his political positions in the US - he probably needs to keep his views on other countries political processes to himself - he may find someone will give him a little talking to about that. Once you are in politics breaking off has to be done with more care.

I doubt that he gives a hootsie about the victims. He doesn't like Labour because he has no influence. He knows his money would give him enormous power with Reform - as he's now demonstrating.

MurderousFrieda · 05/01/2025 17:27

So Elon Musk has turned on Farage all of a sudden. This is clearly because Musk wants the UK to be as far right as possible - with the addition of Tommy Robinson. Farage isn’t stupid, he knows the majority of reform voters don’t want a far right party and they don’t want the likes of Robinson in power.

im pleased to see the vast majority of replies to musk state that Farage is essential to the UK/Reform.

Musk is throwing his toys out of the pram basically because Farage isn’t the lapdog he thought he was.

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 17:34

MurderousFrieda · 05/01/2025 17:27

So Elon Musk has turned on Farage all of a sudden. This is clearly because Musk wants the UK to be as far right as possible - with the addition of Tommy Robinson. Farage isn’t stupid, he knows the majority of reform voters don’t want a far right party and they don’t want the likes of Robinson in power.

im pleased to see the vast majority of replies to musk state that Farage is essential to the UK/Reform.

Musk is throwing his toys out of the pram basically because Farage isn’t the lapdog he thought he was.

I actually think that Elon Musk could end up either causing Reform to implode or at least hurting Farage, I really don't like Farage, and I can't see myself ever voting for reform but I feel... worried about that. A lot of people voting for reform are people who feel disenfranchised/not represented by mainstream political parties. The collapse of Reform or it being effectively taken over by a foreign billionaire is going to leave them if anything feeling more disenfranchised and even less represented. And just adds to the cynicisim. People much further to the right of me deserve to have political parties that aren't undermined by external forces as much as I do. But then, also, it is a bit funny. And on an individual level Farage deserves it.

EmpressoftheMundane · 05/01/2025 17:34

Musk did him a favour. Being attacked by Musk at this point makes Farage look principled and towards the centre ground.

Guess the $100m is off the table! Grin

Almn0etd · 05/01/2025 17:38

I wonder if Musk’s latest intervention will be even more useful to Farage than any money would have been. And easier than getting through legal wrangles over donation laws.

You can’t buy this kind of publicity. So now Farage appears right and principled. If this is manufactured, it’s a master stroke.

MurderousFrieda · 05/01/2025 17:38

EmpressoftheMundane · 05/01/2025 17:34

Musk did him a favour. Being attacked by Musk at this point makes Farage look principled and towards the centre ground.

Guess the $100m is off the table! Grin

Yes! I’m voting reform next anyway if things in the UK don’t drastically change (which is highly unlikely under Labour) but Farage has gone up even further in my estimations now for sticking to his principles, despite the money being waved at him.
if Tommy Robinson was to join reform I - and many others would withdraw their support. We don’t want a hooligan in charge, we just want change.

FOJN · 05/01/2025 17:42

PiggyPigalle · 05/01/2025 15:51

Those on here who accused Farage of bending Musk's ear in favour of Tommy Robinson, must be feeling a little foolish now.
For anyone who doesn't know, Musk has said Farage isn't fit to lead the Reform Party. He's obviously miffed that Farage said he would never allow TR to be a part of Reform.

Farage wouldn't let TR be a member of UKIP either. TR was eventually allowed in when the party was under different leadership.

TR plead guilty to contempt of court after he repeated a libel he had previously found guilty of. It's one of several convictions.

This is one area where Farage has consistently exercised good judgement, it's a shame he didn't apply the same caution with Musk.

I'm not a fan of any of the three men mentioned in this post but I try to retain a degree of objectivity.

Sunshineandoranges · 05/01/2025 17:46

Is it just me that thinks Musk just stirs things so that people argue on X and he gets richer. If everyone avoided X then people like Farage wouldn’t get excessive air time. Recently he is on tv or radio all the time and Musk is constantly mentioned too.

Hedgerow2 · 05/01/2025 17:49

@thisisnotmereally - it's not me who has a problem referring to politicians by their surname!

Thepurplepig · 05/01/2025 17:57

Starmer is a POS. Jess Philips is a disgrace blocking Oldham councils call for an inquiry.

Yet your problem is Nigel Farage? Give me a break. I don’t care for him and I think Elon is off his meds at the moment but he is keeping this topic in the public eye. It will hopefully lead to the removal of Starmer and his party before they completely destroy this country.

biscuitandcake · 05/01/2025 17:58

FOJN · 05/01/2025 17:42

Farage wouldn't let TR be a member of UKIP either. TR was eventually allowed in when the party was under different leadership.

TR plead guilty to contempt of court after he repeated a libel he had previously found guilty of. It's one of several convictions.

This is one area where Farage has consistently exercised good judgement, it's a shame he didn't apply the same caution with Musk.

I'm not a fan of any of the three men mentioned in this post but I try to retain a degree of objectivity.

Farage is dishonest (personally I think he is a con-man who keeps creating problems then using public anger at said problems to grow his power so he can create more problems) but he has good political instincts and knows much better than Elon Musk what British voters will/won't tolerate.

Marchitectmummy · 05/01/2025 18:02

JHound · 05/01/2025 16:22

No it just means he isn’t given a platform.

Who hasn't, an ex MP called Ed Vaisey or leader of Lib Dems Ed Davey. Assume you are actually talking about the later.

Ed Davey was given plenty of air time around Christmas with his bid to be Christmas no 1.

MerryMaker · 05/01/2025 18:06

pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:32

Absolutely- bu Farage gets coverage over and above what is warranted by the number of seats his party has and this has gone on for years, before he was even an MP. How much airtime do left-wing parties get, like the Green Party?

I totally agree. He is given loads and loads of air time.

thisisnotmereally · 05/01/2025 18:10

Hedgerow2 · 05/01/2025 17:49

@thisisnotmereally - it's not me who has a problem referring to politicians by their surname!

Sorry, that was meant for the OP’s post that you had replied to

marshmallowmix · 05/01/2025 18:18

Ed Davey is a total and utter waste of space...

marshmallowmix · 05/01/2025 18:23

Thepurplepig · 05/01/2025 17:57

Starmer is a POS. Jess Philips is a disgrace blocking Oldham councils call for an inquiry.

Yet your problem is Nigel Farage? Give me a break. I don’t care for him and I think Elon is off his meds at the moment but he is keeping this topic in the public eye. It will hopefully lead to the removal of Starmer and his party before they completely destroy this country.

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Totally agree! I read some of the court papers wish I hadn't it is sickening and depraved and needs shouted from the roof tops....which Farage has done....the rest are covering it up...not an Elon fan but he is keeping it in the news which has to be good news it can't be swept aside again....

It needs looking into big time....how this can have been allowed beggars belief....Labour told police don't investigate it was a lifestyle choice of those youngsters ....truly unbelievable....😟

Porcelainpig · 05/01/2025 18:56

Why does Farage get more air time than the Lib Dems? Air time us definitely not distributed as it should be according to how people have voted, so I do agree with you OP.

He barely shows up in his constituency either. He's a politician in name only, doesn't do the job he is meant to do. Just one of Trumps lackeys.

1dayatatime · 05/01/2025 19:13

marshmallowmix · 05/01/2025 18:18

Ed Davey is a total and utter waste of space...

Who?

TheCrenchinglyMcQuaffenBrothers · 05/01/2025 19:19

Porcelainpig · 05/01/2025 18:56

Why does Farage get more air time than the Lib Dems? Air time us definitely not distributed as it should be according to how people have voted, so I do agree with you OP.

He barely shows up in his constituency either. He's a politician in name only, doesn't do the job he is meant to do. Just one of Trumps lackeys.

Why wouldn’t he get more air time than the Lib Dems? Reform had a bigger vote share at the 2024 election than the Lib Dems did, therefore in that regard it is according to how people voted.

Valeriekat · 05/01/2025 19:33

pinotnow · 05/01/2025 09:44

No, because it's increasingly hard to see it as balanced, especially on certain shows and, to be honest, LK is one of the worst so I don't know why I'm surprised really. I'm not saying he shouldn't be on at all by the way. On reflection, maybe he should be on more. Would love to see Victoria Derbyshire interview him.

Who is LK?